AIBU to think that just as a male should not slap a woman's face ,a woman shouldn't slap a man ?

[peridito]

Son slapped in face by girlfriend . Night out ,son went outside club/bar to speak to friends ,girlfriend offended and came out and slapped him.

Appreciate there may be more to it than I know ,but is it ever right to slap someone round the face ?

Son seems ok with it ,but I'm not .

Sirzy you flat out said that level of injury is a poor way of assessing harm in a physical altercation.

If you want the law changed I'd ike to hear how. 2 women a week are currently killed by a man they know. To change this to take into account men being physically out emotionally abused by women as being just as bad would downgrade these women's murders. Already men are getting really light punishments for the sorts of crimes.

Ok you want the law changed to make it fairer for men let's hear your proposal.

No one on this thread has said what she did was OK, or that it didn't matter as she is female and he is male.

Mmmm not ok. Violence is never ok.

'I am talking about the reactions of society as a whole and to paint a “oh she is harmless” view is dangerous. To try to say if no physical scars are left it’s fine is dangerous'

Who has said this? Literally no one. No one.

@Fraggling sorry, I am not saying you are saying it's ok. I am just saying the that the level of possible injury doesnt make it worse.

Legally, intention is taken into account.

What I am saying if we base it on the basis of potential to injury, and those perceived to be able to inflict less injury are ok, then it becomes quite complicated.

Assault is assault. The level of actual injury would influence the charge.

No it’s absolutely not acceptable and your son has been assaulted. But let’s face it, not as many people would think it’s wrong as if it was a man slapping a woman.

Protrin you would like the law changed?

Yes intent is taken into account. Level of injury is not about intent do much as about effort.

You would say that if I hit my dh as hard as I can, it is the same as me hitting him as hard as I can.

I can mind of see that but otoh in this scenario I am dead and the kids have no mum. In real life, changing it the way you want results in downgrading make violence against women. And /or upgrading female violence against men so a woman like the one in the op gets the same punishment as a murderer.

So I sympathise with the idea but in the real world, all this will do is make things much worse for women. Because on average, we are smaller, weaker and less prone to violence.

No it's not ok, gender doesn't matter, you don't put your hands on anybody in anger.
There should be no reasoning ( you did this so I hit you) or mitigating ( it was a slap not a punch).

I’m sorry, I know this is not PC, but no, a woman slapping a man is not the same as vice versa. Never had been, never will be.

That’s not to say, women are free to slap men left, right and centre. Not at all. But let’s not pretend it’s the same.

newmom thanks ,my head says I shouldn't get involved but my heart wants to leave the GF in no doubt as to how far she's stepped over the line .

@Proteinshakesandovieshat

I don't really understand what you're trying to say? The law does discriminate on the basis of level of injury, which is why you have separate charges and consequences for ABH versus GBH, etc.

This is one of those situations where people are quick to tell women what they think

How?

If a woman very occasionally loses her temper and slaps a man, then its forgiveable

Double standards.

@peridito completely understand. It's easy for me to say it as an outsider but if I was you I'd want to rip her a new one 🙈

In real life women don't actually go atound slapping men

Really? I've seen it happen loads, especially in clubs when the girl is upset that the boy in question has talked to another girl. It frequently ended up in a row followed by the girl friend slapping him round the face.

I don't really understand what you're trying to say? The lawdoesdiscriminate on the basis of level of injury, which is why you have separate charges and consequences for ABH versus GBH, etc.*

Yes. On actual injury not perceived ability to injure.

A pp said her husband would say ow if she hit him, where he could potentially kill her.

That's not true for all marriages or relationships. So potential to injury more doesnt change the charge.

Assault is assault on the actual injury influences the charge. Not perceived injury.

Just like a man hitting a woman gently isnt ok. A woman hitting a man, because she might not be able to hurt him as much isnt ok.

That’s not to say, women are free to slap men left, right and centre. Not at all. But let’s not pretend it’s the same.

Why not? Is it ok for a man to hit a woman as long as he in gentle?

Do you think the impacts of DV are only physical?

Not ok at all and i would be concerned as your ds isn't bothered by it. It would make me question how many times she's hit him before and if he's desensitized to it as a result.

Him i would speak to. Not her.

No obviously there are psychological effects following DV, but there is still a difference between men hitting women and vice versa. In the same way as there’s a difference between a woman hitting a child and vice versa. Or a younger person hitting an elderly person as opposed to the other way round. It’s common sense. If I hit my DH, what damage am I going to do? I would have to use an object to hurt him. This is not the case the other way round.

@Zaeem5 My five foot one mother broke my Dads nose and left eye socket with her fist. She also caused broken ribs after a kicking.

No objects required.

That’s not to say, women are free to slap men left, right and centre. Not at all. But let’s not pretend it’s the same..

But that blanket doesnt apply in all situations.

As I said, I know some who was abused by his wife for years, she did it because she could because she knew he would never hit her back.

So the fact that IF he did hit her back, he could kill her was irrelevant. She knew he wouldnt. She she took advantage of that and hit him. The fact that, technically, he could hurt her more didnt really change anything.

As I said, power doesnt just come from being physically stronger. Power can often come from the situation.

It's really fucking depressing, isn't it? I read the OP, flicked straight to the end of the third page (at time of writing) to find domestic violence against men thoroughly and systematically minimised.

Shame on you.

Just like a man hitting a woman gently isnt ok. A woman hitting a man, because she might not be able to hurt him as much isnt ok.

But where has anyone said it is okay for a woman to hit a man?

How many men are killed by their domestic partners every week

Decomposing I have honestly never seen a woman slap a man in a pub club etc

I have seen physical fights and pushing etc but never a slap

I'm sure it happens sometimes but to me it's a soap opera trope.

Maybe there's a regional difference in slapping, I find that unlikely though.

Either way, no one should be hitting anyone.

Violence against anyone else should be throughly condemned. Regardless of sex of the victim per perpetrator.

I cant help wonder if women in same sex relationships struggle to get support and/or charges brought against their female partner when DV occurs?

Because it's not as bad when a woman hits someone? I also Wonder how that impacts the victim?