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To consider ending a 15 year + friendship because of this? **Potentially Distressing**

235 replies

NaviSprite · 13/07/2019 19:12

I’ll try to be short as I’m torn between absolutely seething and just gobsmacked.

Today a person I have known since I was eleven years old (roughly) hit a very raw nerve.

I was out with her and my toddler twins. A nice older lady complimented them and I politely said thank you, then she asked did I have any other children. I explained gently that I have three children. My lovely twins and my baby boy who never got to experience life (he was stillborn at 42 weeks - earlier this year). My friend then cut into the very short polite chat and said “but he doesn’t count.”

She actually said my third child, my second son, didn’t count. Because he isn’t with us.

This friend has children of her own (home with their Dad today) and she had relatively straight forward pregnancies and births with them, which I’m happy for.

My twins were very premature and low birth weight, they fought hard to make it through (they’re thriving now and I’m so proud) and she has often made odd comments whenever they have received compliments too.

Best example is when an acquaintance said how advanced they were.

Thing is they seem that way to observers because they’re still very small for their age and so to other people who don’t know much about them, they seem to be younger than 20 months old and so what is regular for most toddlers to do, seems impressive because people don’t know that’s how old they are (if that makes sense?).

I’m actually a little uncomfortable with compliments in general so I just go with the default smile and say thank you approach.

My friend then said “they’re 20mo, when my DD was that age she was already walking and saying at least 20 different words.”

I’ve tried thinking about things from her perspective but I’m at a bit of a loss and so very hurt. I don’t know if this is her weird version of a competition. She doesn’t bring her children when she comes to visit so I don’t think it’s a case of my twins taking attention away from her DC... I just don’t get it.

But the comment today about my stillborn son, that cut deep and I don’t know that I can forgive it.

I asked why she said he “didn’t count”. Her reply was “Well you never really had him”.

So I guess my post wasn’t that short (sorry!).

My question is, should I consider the friendship over? Or am I overreacting?

The more I think about it, she has often made somewhat cold remarks but I think today it finally hit me just how harsh she can be....

OP posts:
gincaketeathatisme · 01/11/2019 23:16

You absolutely have every right to feel the way you do. I would have nothing more to do with her. Friends are meant to be there to support you and have your back. Saying what she said is just horrendous and unforgivable.

Wonkybanana · 01/11/2019 23:52

Zombie thread.

blubelle7 · 02/11/2019 00:21

Not your friend. You are her punching bag. She uses you to feel better about herself by putting you down.

Nanmumandmidwife · 02/11/2019 00:35

Christopher counts.
Your “friend” has hurt you badly.
Sending love to you.
Find a new friend x

Lucifer666 · 02/11/2019 01:34

😮😮 Jesus Christ that's cruel and insensitive! Of course your baby boy counts!! With friends like that who needs enemies. Op I'd be cutting all contact with her and calling her out on her very malicious and cruel behaviour...pardon my language but she's a spiteful cunt! She's definitely not your friend the conversation didn't involve her but as another PP said she felt the need to "correct" you and put you down.

Op I can relate a bit although I've never lost a child I am currently trying to back away from an 10+ year friendship having recently realised that they're 100% toxic after they made a very nasty remark to my poor cousin who was grieving. I went absolutely ballistic when I was told, it was the final straw for me and I called my "friend" out for her nastiness and my god I got a tsunami rage, tears, emotional blackmail and manipulation attempts thrown my way only this time I didn't back down. And neither should you OP say exactly what you think and block her. I know its hard to lose what you thought was a good friendship but as my mum says "your friends are supposed to build you up and have your back not out down and make you feel awful" sending you lots of hugs, tea and sympathy and whilst it don't feel like it now you'll feel much better not having her negativity in your life Flowers x

HaileySherman · 02/11/2019 01:57

I am so very sorry for your loss. And I would have thought it went without saying, but I'll say it anyway....he counts! I'm sorry anyone, let alone someone you considered a fried said differently. Flowers

Episcomama · 02/11/2019 03:29

Christopher is loved and will always count. Always. I'm so, so sorry for your loss, and I don't have the words for how appalling your friend is.

Turtletotem · 02/11/2019 06:35

I am wondering how you're doing now without that toxic relationship?
Hope things are good for you

Groovinpeanut · 21/11/2019 18:20

Awww bless you. Your little boy counts and was a precious baby born asleep. Your 'friend' is vile, and you are best away from her. If it was an isolated incident then maybe it could be excused, the fact she's doing it often is just not right.
I'd just let any friendship with her go. She seems to show very little regard towards you, or your 3 precious DC.

itwaseverthus · 21/11/2019 18:55

What an unforgivable comment from a so-called friend. Of course your boy counts, he counts more than the ex friend ever could. Proud of you for standing up for yourself and your d Christopher. Flowers

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