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Had a blazing row with friend at Gay Pride

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Havingarethink · 07/07/2019 01:42

I have name changed in case I'm being a precious arse.

Me, oldest friend and his BF were at Pride in London today and were having a jolly old time, drinking, making friends with like minded people and having a right old laugh.
As the day wore on and the 3 of us were getting a bit too oiled, my friend and his partner would compliment large breasted ladies on their clevege, such as 'nice tits or' nice pair', while I cringed and stepped away.
Most of the complimentees laughed and thanked them (thank fuck for drugs and /or alcohol) but one particular girl said in a - not very serious tone- 'I'm only 15'. Omg.

As I walked ahead dying of shame, I heard my friends say to the girl and all her friends, that they were gay and to calm down Shock.

I, in a very gentle way advised them that comments like that could potentially land them in trouble. Well I was told in about 18 different ways that I was being utterly rediculous, because 1. They are gay, so not a threat, 2. She wore a very low top, so should expect comments - yeah I know and 3.She looked older than 15 and therefore should know better????!!!.

Neither of them thought they did wrong and I tried to give them hypothetical examples of how none of those facts would matter if parents happened to have heard /seen it or if she was filming on her phone.

I begged them to drop it in the end as they took it very personally, refused to listen to me and we went round in circles. I said I would post here and show them the thread (if I'm right Grin).

For context my friend is late 40s like me.
So am I talking rubbish?

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TheRedBarrows · 07/07/2019 23:27

I have had loads of gay friends over the years , many close and long-standing. All thoroughly decent human beings, and none of them would ever behave like this. They would be disgusted.

Madein1995 · 07/07/2019 23:39

I was 15 when my friend used to work in the local workingmen's club. We'd go there for chips of a lunch time for reduced price. One of my friends colleagues was gay. He used to sit and chat with is (we were 15, he was at least 25).; He'd regale us with explicit details of his sex life. He was also obsessed with large breasts and I was too heavy. He would share at them, comment on them and on a few occasions groped me. My friend thought I was weird for not liking it as he was gay so apparently it was fine.

Am glad you have more sense op

yulet · 08/07/2019 08:28

Lots of mummy issues out there. Gay men are definitely not automatically great feminist allies!

DoctorTwo · 08/07/2019 16:14

Your friends need to know that women fear us men, and until our behaviour changes that will always be so, no matter what our sexuality is.

And no, I don't want a cookie, I have cake.

flumposie · 08/07/2019 17:00

Vile twats.

Havingarethink · 08/07/2019 18:44

Hi all, just checking in to say that I haven't had chance to speak to my friends since Saturday as we fell out over unrelated issues.

This whole thread has blown my mind and if I'm honest I think a lot of us women with friends or ex friends similar to mine, have been in denial about some of their actions.

I have always cock an eyebrow whenever I hear women say 'I love gay men' and my response has always been 'what all of them? each and every one?'. I think this attitude is what feeds some of the belief that they aren't like the others.

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Cozytoesandtoast00 · 08/07/2019 19:04

I was once at a party as a 20 year old. I was verbally abused continuously by a gay man regarding my looks and "trying to look sexy". I was wearing hot pants and he decided to rip my tights off. This was in front if everybody. Nobody intervened (including friends) as it was not considered sexual or threatening because he was gay. It was "just banter"
It was awful and very traumatic.

bellabasset · 08/07/2019 19:15

I was shopping in a posh supermarket and an obviously gay man came over to me sniggering that my husband's trousers had fallen down. I replied my husband's dead and his face changed immediately. Quickly checking I found a male member of staff to assist the other customer. A few minutes later the member of staff thanked me for being discreet as the customer was recovering from a stroke and was regaining his dexterity in his hands. Fortunately he had been out of sight of other customers.

I think some men are just obnoxious as your (ex)friends are.

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