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WIBU to give my estranged sister a kidney?

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Shutupaboutthesun · 25/06/2019 08:09

My older sister became chronically ill many years ago and needed a kidney transplant from our mother. That kidney is now failing and she will shortly return to dialysis.

I'm asking if it would be unreasonable to give her my kidney, not whether it would be unreasonable NOT to, because of our particular circumstances.

We are low contact and only see each other at big family events. We don't otherwise talk. Her husband recently wrote to me, asking if I would consider donating. Our younger sister got an identical letter - she has already said no.

We (me and younger sis) do not get along with our older sister because she bullied us terribly throughout childhood, physically and psychologically. Both of us have ongoing anxiety and self-esteem issues due to the bullying, which was never stopped or curtailed by our mother (our father left when we were young). DM is still in complete denial about what went on, and characterises the situation as 'you two have always ganged up on her'.

DSis (younger) is in therapy and it was her therapist who advised her to write back immediately saying no to the kidney donation. She then got a horrible letter from older DSis (even though the original letter was from her husband), calling her a selfish person and implying she was a coward and a liar. She said she never wanted to see younger DSis again and would avoid any family gatherings from now on at which she would be present.

After younger DSis showed me that letter, I felt the familiar feeling of panic and helplessness from my childhood, of being trapped with older DSis, unable to get away from her fists and her taunts. I decided that I would say no too as I'll be damned if I'm going to be bullied by her in adulthood as well as childhood.

However, there was also something in the letter that made me pause. DSis has an 8yo daughter and she wrote of how awful it is to have to look at her every day and know that she won't see her grow up. She wrote, 'It is the worst feeling in the world'. This resonated with me as I am sole parent to my 3yo DD. I realised DSis is in an unspeakably awful situation, and the right thing might be to put aside my childhood issues and help her if I can.

Having said that, the fact that my DD doesn't have another parent (father's name not on the birth certificate) makes me hyper-aware of my responsibilities to her. I know the risks from donating a kidney are low, but the risk is still there, and I go back and forth between believing that I owe it to my sister to try to help, and believing that I owe it to my daughter not to take this risk for someone with whom I have a very poor relationship.

I've talked to a number of people about what I should do and they all, except for DM, said I shouldn't offer to donate. DM thinks I should because DSis is very ill, will probably die in the next five years without a new kidney, and there is 'no risk to the donor'. She keeps reassuring me that she has no health issues from donating her own kidney 16 years ago. Friends have said I shouldn't do it because my priority should be DD. GP said the same.

Even so, I keep thinking about it, and last week I almost told DM to tell DSis that I would be willing to get tested to see if I was a match.

I keep swinging back and forth between opposite emotions. Some days I feel guilty about what is happening to DSis, knowing that I could possibly stop it. The brutal fact is, if I don't donate, it means I am willing to sit back and watch my sister slowly die. DM is already full of grief about what is happening and her emotional state will only get worse as DSis deteriorates on dialysis.

Some days I think offering to donate my kidney would be some kind of 'big gesture' I could make to heal our whole family, whereas holding on to it just represents holding on to the bitterness of the past. Then other days I get angry and think, 'fuck it, no, why should I give that bitch my kidney, when she's had more negative effect on my life than any other person?'

I feel very clouded by conflicting emotions and it is hard to see clearly what is the right thing to do.

OP posts:
ColaFreezePop · 25/06/2019 09:30

No don't do it.

Your DD doesn't have a father and needs you to be fit and healthy. If your DD was an adult and it was your niece/nephew then I would have a different opinion. I personally would only give an organ to people in my family who are a younger generation than me. In my family that would cause controversy but my more thoughtful siblings would understand.

In your case your sister is unpleasant to you and it will not heal a family rift, it could actually create a bigger one. She hasn't tried to apologise to you and you have had little contact until she needed something. The fact she has caused your other sibling to have therapy says a lot about her character so for your own mental health and well-being continue to stay away from her. Don't even bother to get tested.

In regards to your DM she is doing what she is suppose to do as a mother to ensure her child lives and she has already given her own kidney. Do not give your DM any reasons why you won't give your sister your kidney. Simply repeat like a broken record to her "That you will not discuss it." If she continues to emotionally blackmail you then go LC with her.

CuriousaboutSamphire · 25/06/2019 09:30

OP... you have had medical advice, take it.

All else is simply guilt speaking. You can ignore that, you may have to try hard, but you can do it.

I repeat... you have had medical advice, take it!

BBBear · 25/06/2019 09:31

I wouldn’t do it. I wouldn’t donate an organ to anyone but my own children.

scaryteacher · 25/06/2019 09:31

I would have to say no here. You are a single parent. If you did this, and it went wrong - who would have your daughter? If at a later stage your daughter needed a kidney, and you'd already donated one, how would you feel then?

Your primary responsibility is to your little girl, not your sister.

ColaFreezePop · 25/06/2019 09:35

Oh and I do remember reading somewhere that donated kidneys have a limited lifespan of 12-15 years on average. A former colleague of mine needed a kidney. (It wasn't an inherited condition.) He had all his extended family and his ex-ILs of different ages offering to donate one but he didn't want one from anyone younger than him. In the end his match was one of his many cousins who was older than him.

sweetiepie1979 · 25/06/2019 09:37

No way! I have a sister who can be very cruel I would never do this for her. And she would know why. Bullied throughout childhood! This is not your battle. You write back and explain why honestly.

mbosnz · 25/06/2019 09:39

It's a very sad situation for your sister to be in, but it's her situation, for her to contend with.

Your situation is that you are the sole parent of a very young child, who must make her child's well-being her first priority. A big part of your child's wellbeing rests upon her mother being physically well, capable of looking after her, and providing for her.

It is not a no-risk, or even low risk procedure. The recovery can be a lot longer and harder than envisaged. Who is going to provide for your child, and look after her in the way she deserves to be looked after for that time? What about the worst case scenario? How is it fair to even contemplate asking that of you and your daughter?

Your sister treated you awfully. She continues to treat your other sister awfully. Your mother enabled and ignored her treatment of the two of you. She continues to do so, with respect to how your younger sister has been treated upon her completely reasonable refusal to donate, and to continue to pressure you to do so.

PeoniesarePink · 25/06/2019 09:39

I'm NC with my sister due to her appalling behaviour.

It would be a flat No from me.

You owe her nothing. Remember that Flowers

pollypenguin01 · 25/06/2019 09:40

This will not heal your family and quite honestly as soon as you’ve given the kidney over I don’t believe your sis would give you a second thought, but maybe I’m unreasonable, you know her I don’t.

You really need to consider who will look after your DD while you recover if you did donate because you’re not going to come out of hospital skipping along hand in hand with your sister ready for a day of full on childcare!

What will you do/how will you feel if your DD needs a kidney when she is older and you can’t give her one as you already donated it to your Sis?

If you were very close and your sis had been a big, positive, supportive part of your life (taking into account that of course siblings will have silly fallouts occasionally) then it might be different but she ruined your childhood, shows absolutely no remorse and has crippled your mental health!

Your mother is awful for even putting you in this situation.

Idontwanttotalk · 25/06/2019 09:40

*@FenellaMaxwell

"I would consider whether it’s a viable proposition to donate considering the last donor kidney only lasted 8 years."

It lasted 16 years:
"She keeps reassuring me that she has no health issues from donating her own kidney 16 years ago."

Biker47 · 25/06/2019 09:41

No, it's not going to solve anything in your family, she's not going to have an epiphany that she was horrible to you as a child and apologise profusely, she'll disappear back into the ether until she needs something off you again, maybe a part of your liver next.

This is evident in the response your other sister got when she said no, most none cheeky bastards would be able to acknowledge that someone doesn't want to do something so grand and risky as donating a kidney, and can accept it, but your sister couldn't accept that and just attacked her instead.

Put your own kid first.

sweetiepie1979 · 25/06/2019 09:42

''In your circumstances hell would freeze over before I’d donate a kidney. Your ds is some piece of work. Your priorities lie with your dc not her. Don’t do it, you’ll regret it because she’s a nasty bastard now, having your kidney she’ll still be a nasty bastard 🤷🏼‍♀️''

Actually the above from Longdistance is perfectly put!

diddl · 25/06/2019 09:44

I'm not sure that I could do this for a sibling I do get along with.

I am terrified of needles & surgery.

As for her daughter, well I'm going to say probably a horrible thing.

She decided to have a child knowing that her health is precarious.

Presumably she knew the lifespan of the kidney she has.

What did she think would happen after that?

Considering that you have no relationship with her I think that it was shitty of her to ask.

NightOwl101 · 25/06/2019 09:44

I haven't RTFT but You do know OP that if you donate a kidney you are even more at risk of developing kidney failure in the future and needing to have HD yourself. Would your sister think of your DD then and offer you a kidney? I know she can't but if she could but she be so willing? It doesn't sound like it. Please don't be bullied into this.

truthisarevolutionaryact · 25/06/2019 09:45

Poor you OP. This has turned from a request for a 'gift' to a demand! Nobody has the right to demand an organ from anyone. As so many others have said, you are a single parent and your own child must be at the centre of all your decisions.

The other point that a number of wise posters have identified is that donating your kidney will not heal what has happened in your family.

She and her OH are trying to guilt trip you and your sister. Refusing to ever speak to her again is bullying and intimidation - even though it's from her position of fear it is unacceptable.

You have asked for advice so ... don't so it. Prepare yourself for an onslaught of guilt tripping but protect yourself - you do not owe your sister a kidney. Stand with your other sister - neither of you have any reason to feel guilty.

No is a complete sentence

Lemonlady22 · 25/06/2019 09:45

just say that you have spoken to your GP (which you have) and say due to your own health issues you have been advised to say no...no other explanation is needed

eddielizzard · 25/06/2019 09:48

Thing is, your sister had a child knowing that she wasn't in good health. This is one of the issues that she knew they'd have to face. That was her decision. Now she's guilt tripping you into a situation you haven't chosen.

I wouldn't donate, because your responsibility is firstly to your DD, not an abusive sister who you have no relationship with bar sharing DNA. If you fear the repercussions, then I'd be tempted to do the test for a match and tell them openly that you're being coerced into it, as others have suggested.

Idontwanttotalk · 25/06/2019 09:49

@Quartz2208

"Your DSIS has had one kidney and it hasnt lasted that long - the likelihood (if you are a match) is that this one wont either"

It has lasted 16 years. Why do you think that isn't long?

mumwon · 25/06/2019 09:50

kidney donation has risks to you -especially if you have inherited your sisters issues (unknown to you) you have achild
bil has no right to put pressure & insult anyone who does not want to risk this
if you WANT to do this than you have a choice don't let anyone pressure you

IDontGiveABagOfDicks · 25/06/2019 09:51

I wouldn’t.

Because your child doesn’t have a second parent should anything happen to you. Your DC needs to be your priority.

I would say this even if you got along well, tbh.

Beerincomechampagnetastes · 25/06/2019 09:55

There’s a saying op if you want to observe what someone’s true intentions are...just say no to them. Their reaction when you say no is all the information you need.

Your sister is continuing to bully you and your childhood socialisation of hoping to please thebully is preventing you from seeing the truth.

Your sister won’t thank you and she won’t be grateful. On the contrary .. i suspect she’ll feel empowered that she’s still able to control you.

I’m really sorry op but it seems to me like your sister doesn’t give a shiny shit about you or your dd.
Say NO

Geminijes · 25/06/2019 09:55

I would say no.

Your sister is still a bully so hasn't changed or learnt lessons from her childhood behaviour.

Your mother is still in denial about your sister's bullying towards you and your other sister and she still refuses to accept any blame on her part.
Your mother also appears to be trying to guilt you into donating by saying that your sister will die in the next few years and that there are no risks to the donor.
There are risks to the donor, albeit, small risks but still risks.

If your sister does die then at least your niece will have one healthy parent left (with 2 kidneys) as does your daughter now.

If, however, you chose to donate then your daughter will only have one parent left that has one kidney. Your niece will then have 2 parents (providing the donation was a success).

Think of yourself and your daughter as it appears that no one else is thinking of you both. XXX

QueenoftheBiscuitTin · 25/06/2019 09:57

No. She's a horrible cow and you have a daughter who might need it one day.

separatebeds · 25/06/2019 09:57

Only get tested if you decide to donate. The result of the test should not influence your decision.
Her reaction to your other sisters decision was disgusting. She is not going to suddenly like you if you do this - that won't happen.
She clearly thinks you owe it to her.

What about her husband donating his???

Eliza9919 · 25/06/2019 09:58

I realised DSis is in an unspeakably awful situation, and the right thing might be to put aside my childhood issues and help her if I can.

I wouldn't. Let her find out that you reap what you sow.

What if by a longshot, your daughter needs a kidney in the future?