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WIBU to give my estranged sister a kidney?

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Shutupaboutthesun · 25/06/2019 08:09

My older sister became chronically ill many years ago and needed a kidney transplant from our mother. That kidney is now failing and she will shortly return to dialysis.

I'm asking if it would be unreasonable to give her my kidney, not whether it would be unreasonable NOT to, because of our particular circumstances.

We are low contact and only see each other at big family events. We don't otherwise talk. Her husband recently wrote to me, asking if I would consider donating. Our younger sister got an identical letter - she has already said no.

We (me and younger sis) do not get along with our older sister because she bullied us terribly throughout childhood, physically and psychologically. Both of us have ongoing anxiety and self-esteem issues due to the bullying, which was never stopped or curtailed by our mother (our father left when we were young). DM is still in complete denial about what went on, and characterises the situation as 'you two have always ganged up on her'.

DSis (younger) is in therapy and it was her therapist who advised her to write back immediately saying no to the kidney donation. She then got a horrible letter from older DSis (even though the original letter was from her husband), calling her a selfish person and implying she was a coward and a liar. She said she never wanted to see younger DSis again and would avoid any family gatherings from now on at which she would be present.

After younger DSis showed me that letter, I felt the familiar feeling of panic and helplessness from my childhood, of being trapped with older DSis, unable to get away from her fists and her taunts. I decided that I would say no too as I'll be damned if I'm going to be bullied by her in adulthood as well as childhood.

However, there was also something in the letter that made me pause. DSis has an 8yo daughter and she wrote of how awful it is to have to look at her every day and know that she won't see her grow up. She wrote, 'It is the worst feeling in the world'. This resonated with me as I am sole parent to my 3yo DD. I realised DSis is in an unspeakably awful situation, and the right thing might be to put aside my childhood issues and help her if I can.

Having said that, the fact that my DD doesn't have another parent (father's name not on the birth certificate) makes me hyper-aware of my responsibilities to her. I know the risks from donating a kidney are low, but the risk is still there, and I go back and forth between believing that I owe it to my sister to try to help, and believing that I owe it to my daughter not to take this risk for someone with whom I have a very poor relationship.

I've talked to a number of people about what I should do and they all, except for DM, said I shouldn't offer to donate. DM thinks I should because DSis is very ill, will probably die in the next five years without a new kidney, and there is 'no risk to the donor'. She keeps reassuring me that she has no health issues from donating her own kidney 16 years ago. Friends have said I shouldn't do it because my priority should be DD. GP said the same.

Even so, I keep thinking about it, and last week I almost told DM to tell DSis that I would be willing to get tested to see if I was a match.

I keep swinging back and forth between opposite emotions. Some days I feel guilty about what is happening to DSis, knowing that I could possibly stop it. The brutal fact is, if I don't donate, it means I am willing to sit back and watch my sister slowly die. DM is already full of grief about what is happening and her emotional state will only get worse as DSis deteriorates on dialysis.

Some days I think offering to donate my kidney would be some kind of 'big gesture' I could make to heal our whole family, whereas holding on to it just represents holding on to the bitterness of the past. Then other days I get angry and think, 'fuck it, no, why should I give that bitch my kidney, when she's had more negative effect on my life than any other person?'

I feel very clouded by conflicting emotions and it is hard to see clearly what is the right thing to do.

OP posts:
omione · 26/06/2019 21:27

Its called Karma and its just kicked her in the arse. Tell her no

NotBeforeCoffee · 26/06/2019 21:42

Go and get tested

Tell DM you’re getting tested
Tell her to tell DSis

Tell the medics the situation and that you’re not really up for it and they will make sure you are not a match

That is the only way to save the relationship with your DM
Any other way and your DM will blame you and no doubt sever contact and I take it you don’t want that?

It may seem underhand but it’s the best thing to do for you and your daughter

thegreylady · 26/06/2019 21:43

I think the fact that Younareva single parent means that you should not take the risk. Your dd has to come first regardless of your relationship with your sister.

thegreylady · 26/06/2019 21:44

Should be you are a single parent

Milly345 · 26/06/2019 21:55

Don’t do it

FelicisNox · 26/06/2019 22:08

My take:

You are not being unreasonable at all. I personally would decline taking into consideration the things mentioned.

She may be your sister buy you have no positive emotional connection to a person who is family in name only, is a toxic, controlling personality and basically gave you and your sister lifelong PTSD. I seriously doubt you will heal anything when your sister is under the impression she is entitled to yours and your sisters body parts and is aggressive at being turned down. A normal response would be sadness not anger.

Yes it's sad for her but it's not a situation you created or know for sure you can fix (match).

And why is her daughter more important than yours? As you say, you are your daughters only parent and you don't know what will happen with your health in the future; what if you develop diabetes or you develop a problem with your other kidney?

What if the kidney is rejected? It would all be for nothing for someone who isn't even grateful.

As for your mum: you need to tell her you won't be donating, repeat the reasons why, explain your sister is in therapy and if she doesn't get her head out of her arse sheepish she will be very lonely in her old age as you and DS are not prepared to tolerate her preference for your other sister for much longer.

I'm normally empathetic but frankly, Karma is a b*h.

Lynz301 · 26/06/2019 22:20

What an absolutely horrible situation to be in!!

I haven’t RTFT, but I just wanted to say that your daughter should be your first priority, and you have to think of her. A kidney donation is still serious surgery - it’s not getting a mole removed or something! Things can and do go wrong with routine surgeries every day. Just because your mum was fine doesn’t mean you will, and you are a single parent to a child who relies on you for everything.

Also, it doesn’t sound like your horrible sister will magically change if you do donate your kidney. How would you feel if you did it and she still treated you exactly the same way? You can’t take it back! There’s also absolutely no guarantee that you will extend her lifespan either.

I think in some situations you have to make a decision based solely on yourself and let the chips for everyone else fall where they may.

I appreciate that it’s tough with your mum going through emotional turmoil, that would be true of any parent facing their child’s mortality. It doesnt grant her the right to demand your kidney for your sister.

If the roles were reversed, would you even have bothered asking your sister to donate her kidney?

floraloctopus · 26/06/2019 22:20

Your dd must come first.
Dsis's dd will have her father to look after her.

pinkcrocs · 26/06/2019 22:28

I would not donate to anyone but my dc. Irrelevant of other family matters.
I don’t know how old you were when your dsis bullied you but if your parents didn’t step in I think blaming your dsis completely isn’t fair. That’s not to say you can be friends now but more that if you’re estranged from your dsis are you from your parents? They are to blame here somewhat

altiara · 26/06/2019 22:32

I’d find that a really easy decision to make - absolutely no.
My priority is my children so I wouldn’t take the risk with my own health.
I also wouldn’t do anything to help a person that bullied me to the point that you’re still having a bad reaction to her.
As for guilting you over her Your niece. Remember she chose to have a child knowing that this would happen (someone said transplants only last for up to 15 years) and your niece still has another parent who is not prepared to donate a kidney. I would feel really annoyed with BIL writing that letter when you’re a single parent.
Plus your mum’s desperation would only strengthen my feelings about wanting to do the best for my own child.
Flowers

123tweet · 26/06/2019 22:40

yabvvvu to even consider it. As a parent your responsibility lies with your DD, as a pp previously said what if she ever needed one a d you couldn't help? I think you would be very selfish to do this, you'd be prioritising the guilt you feel about a desire to heal your family (which sounds quite naive) over your DD

Pixiebutterfly83 · 26/06/2019 23:29

My mum is currently on dialysis, she has a less than 5% chance of a match and refuses point blank for me or my siblings to get tested. The reason is that a, her brother died due to kidney failure years after a successful transplant, b, what if we inherit the same condition and it leaves us without a functioning kidney and c, we all have children who need us.

ToftyAC · 26/06/2019 23:43

You’re a loan parent. Your child had to come first. Not some bitch who had made you feel shit all your life. And your DM can go fuck herself as well. Your DSis had a second chance. It’s extended her life, now she wants a third chance where you could die? No.

bluebluezoo · 26/06/2019 23:48

You’re a loan parent

You can borrow parents Shock

Sorry- just saw the first sentence in my watched threads and wondered if it meant something profound or deep and meaningful. Took me a minute...

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 26/06/2019 23:54

I agree 100% with the vast majority on here - I would NOT consider donating a kidney in your circumstances, @Shutupaboutthesun. And in your shoes, I would be honest with your mum about why - “Mum - dsis made my life a misery - she bullied me relentlessly, both physically and psychologically, all through our childhood, and I am still suffering the effects of this. Her response to younger dsis shows she has not changed, and I am not willing to risk my child’s only parent for the person who bullied me and may sister so badly.”

Bagshot · 27/06/2019 00:11

You have your own child to think about. There are risks involved with donating. Your child is relying on you to provide them with the best possible care you can.
Why would you put yourself at risk and therefore have your own child affected?
Why leave yourself to rely only on one kidney? Your mother really shouldn't be putting you in a position where you feel you have to.

TipsyToasty · 27/06/2019 00:16

I wouldn’t make the donation. Your priority lies with your own daughter and keeping yourself well

Wills · 27/06/2019 01:07

Oh @Shutupaboutthesun, I'm so so so sorry about this. However, bullies don't change their spots because someone else is wonderfully magnanimous. Bullies only change when they suffer pain and learn that bullying doesn't work. This is a proven fact through an enormous amount of research. Having the moral high ground may help you, but wont change your sister. Nor will it, as may have indicated, change the overall family dynamic. You may get 'false' platitudes when you agree until the moment you give up your kidney but none afterwards. However I really get how you feel about things with your DM. I suspect you should focus on your relationship with your DM and the role she has in your life rather than your sister! I'm not a lone parent, rather I have a DH that I"m very in love with but who can't cope with parenting and has buggered off to the middle east where he's in a highly paid job that allows him to say "hire whatever help you need darling" but whose response to serious issues going on at home with our teens (we have 3 teens and 1 tween) is "I'm happy with whatever decision you want to take". Not wanting to take over your thread whilst I'm not a 'lone parent' I am the only one making decisions and I just want to reinforce the very many others who have said to look to your dd. You say that its not genetic, but susepticiability (sp - sorry v. dyslexic) to sepsis is also genetic so please take that into account. But mainly what I wanted to warn you is that the moment you've donated everything will return to normal. How do you feel about that? She and her husband and your DM will be incredibly grateful until the moment you've given up your kidney. At that point they will revert to treating you as they do now! If you can live with that, but can't live with watching her die, then yes I would donate. BUT I promise you (am a professional pyschologist) the moment you agree they will fawn over you, but the moment its removed they will drop you like a stone. If you find living with this preferable to watching your (bully of a) sister slowly die knowing her child has a 2nd parent that yours does not, then go ahead and donate. Whilst watching her die will be really hard, remember that we reap what we sow! I have two brothers, one of which I wouldn't hesitate to donate, whilst the other I would go through similar agony. Good luck and best wishes with whatever decision you take, but rest assured that whatever decision you take, youre more than a good person and that your older sister doesn't EVER deserve your love!

iseveryusernametakenorwhat · 27/06/2019 01:15

I would only donate willingly and with a desperation for that person to live, even at a cost to my health. And that would only be my children or my husband, possibly my nieces. Selfish maybe, but my priority is my family.

Crawf2002 · 27/06/2019 02:19

Hi I’m a Renal Nurse, people can live a full and active life on dialysis. Yes it is tiring but if she’s young and fit enough she can wait for a cadaver donation transplant. The person making the donation has a longer recovery period than the recipient. What is the medical reason that your sisters kidneys failed? If it’s genetic then I’d definitely say No as you could also have the gene. Your a single parent your priority is your child and you first and foremost. If it makes you feel any better, would your sister do it for you ? Sounds like manipulation then if you don’t comply you’ll get her wrath as your younger DSis received x

HermioneMakepeace · 27/06/2019 02:31

I am trying to put myself in your position. I have a family member who I can honestly say I hate. I have not seen her for years. She has a child who I have never met. This person made my life hell.

Would I donate a kidney to her to save her life? Absolutely yes. I would. Without a moment's thought.

SimplySteveRedux · 27/06/2019 02:47

I was abused by mother and brother and father enabled it all. I have no idea what I'd do in your circumstances. I'm taking active steps to never be placed in such a situation by donating a kidney as a living altruistic donor.

You're under no obligation to your sister here.

1forAll74 · 27/06/2019 03:09

You are obviously going to have some anger given,from your sister and your Mother,that will leave you pondering about all this, but you have to think about yourself and your daughter first.

I have a sister who does not ever communicate with me, no bullying in the past or anything, she just does not like me for reasons unknown, so I would not ever donate a kidney, or anything else to her.

honeygirlz · 27/06/2019 05:43

@SimplySteveRedux sorry to hear that Flowers

Are you still in contact with them all?

boobirdblue · 27/06/2019 07:22

YABU your family is too fractured to deal with this kind of highly emotive event. When donating a kidney is not just physical health that's involved it's mental well being.

So, you donate the kidney, it's a success but you feel you've got no recognition for a huge magnificent thing to do.

Or

You donate and it doesn't work, you'll have a negative feeling and possibly no kind words of how thankful Dsis was that you tried.

You can't do this, there is too much of your own physical and mental health at stake.