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WIBU to give my estranged sister a kidney?

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Shutupaboutthesun · 25/06/2019 08:09

My older sister became chronically ill many years ago and needed a kidney transplant from our mother. That kidney is now failing and she will shortly return to dialysis.

I'm asking if it would be unreasonable to give her my kidney, not whether it would be unreasonable NOT to, because of our particular circumstances.

We are low contact and only see each other at big family events. We don't otherwise talk. Her husband recently wrote to me, asking if I would consider donating. Our younger sister got an identical letter - she has already said no.

We (me and younger sis) do not get along with our older sister because she bullied us terribly throughout childhood, physically and psychologically. Both of us have ongoing anxiety and self-esteem issues due to the bullying, which was never stopped or curtailed by our mother (our father left when we were young). DM is still in complete denial about what went on, and characterises the situation as 'you two have always ganged up on her'.

DSis (younger) is in therapy and it was her therapist who advised her to write back immediately saying no to the kidney donation. She then got a horrible letter from older DSis (even though the original letter was from her husband), calling her a selfish person and implying she was a coward and a liar. She said she never wanted to see younger DSis again and would avoid any family gatherings from now on at which she would be present.

After younger DSis showed me that letter, I felt the familiar feeling of panic and helplessness from my childhood, of being trapped with older DSis, unable to get away from her fists and her taunts. I decided that I would say no too as I'll be damned if I'm going to be bullied by her in adulthood as well as childhood.

However, there was also something in the letter that made me pause. DSis has an 8yo daughter and she wrote of how awful it is to have to look at her every day and know that she won't see her grow up. She wrote, 'It is the worst feeling in the world'. This resonated with me as I am sole parent to my 3yo DD. I realised DSis is in an unspeakably awful situation, and the right thing might be to put aside my childhood issues and help her if I can.

Having said that, the fact that my DD doesn't have another parent (father's name not on the birth certificate) makes me hyper-aware of my responsibilities to her. I know the risks from donating a kidney are low, but the risk is still there, and I go back and forth between believing that I owe it to my sister to try to help, and believing that I owe it to my daughter not to take this risk for someone with whom I have a very poor relationship.

I've talked to a number of people about what I should do and they all, except for DM, said I shouldn't offer to donate. DM thinks I should because DSis is very ill, will probably die in the next five years without a new kidney, and there is 'no risk to the donor'. She keeps reassuring me that she has no health issues from donating her own kidney 16 years ago. Friends have said I shouldn't do it because my priority should be DD. GP said the same.

Even so, I keep thinking about it, and last week I almost told DM to tell DSis that I would be willing to get tested to see if I was a match.

I keep swinging back and forth between opposite emotions. Some days I feel guilty about what is happening to DSis, knowing that I could possibly stop it. The brutal fact is, if I don't donate, it means I am willing to sit back and watch my sister slowly die. DM is already full of grief about what is happening and her emotional state will only get worse as DSis deteriorates on dialysis.

Some days I think offering to donate my kidney would be some kind of 'big gesture' I could make to heal our whole family, whereas holding on to it just represents holding on to the bitterness of the past. Then other days I get angry and think, 'fuck it, no, why should I give that bitch my kidney, when she's had more negative effect on my life than any other person?'

I feel very clouded by conflicting emotions and it is hard to see clearly what is the right thing to do.

OP posts:
Clutterbugsmum · 27/06/2019 07:36

I think you have made the right decision, about not donating your kidney to your sister. She will probably not speak to you again, but by the sound of it that wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing.

And id the circumstances were reversed and she did donate a kidney to you it would be used as a stick to beat you with and about how 'great she' is.

Doidoit19 · 27/06/2019 09:14

Haven’t read the full thread but there’s no way I would donate to her in your situation. She can’t even be nice to you and your younger sister when her life depends on it so I would bet money that it wouldn’t heal your family even if you did donate.
There are only two people I would ever donate to and I birthed them both. I wouldn’t put myself or their future at risk for anyone else. Even though I have a very close relationship with my sister we would not donate to each other because ultimately we will put our children first. Even if they never need a kidney I can’t take that risk and she feels the same.
YANBU to say no to her. I imagine she would say no to you in a heartbeat.

hellsbellsmelons · 27/06/2019 11:04

What a horrible situation for you.
But like everyone else says, your priority is to your DD.
She may need one of your kidneys in the future.
And your DSis really won't appreciate it that much.
I hope she understands why you can't do it.

Happynow001 · 27/06/2019 11:06

* "Not a chance I would do this as a lone parent to a young child.*"

I guess this is what it comes down to. I do feel guilty about DSis, but I also feel guilty about taking a risk that could jeopardise my DD's future. Logically I know I do need to prioritise my daughter.
I hope you manage to push through your sense of guilt/FOG about donating to your sister OP - sounds like you may be.

Guilt (or being pressured to feel guilt) is not a good enough reason to say yes to what is a major medical procedure with no absolute guarantee of success for sister, long term medical health for yourself or, further down the line, being unable to donate to your child if the circumstances arise.

Absolutely your priority is to your daughter here, even if you had a great past and present relationship with your sister, which isn't the case.

Please stay strong and say no because, as others have said, saying yes will not change the dynamic between you and your older sister (you've seen the result of that in the response to your younger sister declining to donate).

I see you are now considering writing a letter to your sister stating you are unable to agree to be her donor. Very sensible. Be factual and keep as much emotion from your response as possible.

Be prepared, however, to receive the same responses she gave your younger sister, as your older sister is still the bully she always was.

You are in a tough situation. The positive ray of sunlight out of the rest of the guilt ridden gloom is putting your child first - which is worth a great deal.

Good luck OP. 🌹

Happynow001 · 27/06/2019 11:07

Sorry- failed bold text. Blast! Hmm

Mummyten · 27/06/2019 11:26

Would your sister do it for you ?

Ghostontoast · 27/06/2019 13:53

I don’t think the sister would give her the steam on her piss!

Supermansmum · 27/06/2019 23:43

Don't donate your kidney to your sister. You need it in case (god forbid) your daughter needs it..or any future grandchildren of yours.

justilou1 · 28/06/2019 12:03

Such an emotive issue. I grew up like this, with a younger, but much bigger brother who was enabled by our mother to also monster me. (Knives were used, etc...) I wouldn’t pee on him if he were on fire, yet when she died, he assumed I’d a) be feeling the same way he was about it all and b) be available to be his sounding board when he needed to talk about it. Had to block his number.

MrsCplus · 30/06/2019 01:07

From what I've heard the donors life span is dramatically reduced compared to the 10+ish years that the receiver gains. I wouldn't based on being a single mum. The no.1 priority here is your baby.

swissmilk · 30/06/2019 01:29

In your circumstances No. No. No.

QueenoftheBayou · 30/06/2019 01:30

Like fuck would I even consider it. My older bro sounds just like your sister. I wouldn't give that arsehole a piece of chewing gum let alone a fucking ORGAN.

givemesteel · 30/06/2019 03:07

I think your primary reason for saying no is your responsibility to your daughter which is right.

But I also think that it is a question of odds generally. It sounds like she is unfortunately a poorly person generally so the likelihood of her leading a long life is less than if her kidneys were her only problem. Perhaps I'm wrong but it sounds like she's not high on the donor list for a kidney because of these other problems.

And even if you did do this you're not saving her life you're just extending it for an unknown amount if time. Just because your mum's kidney lasted 16 years it doesn't mean another one would.

I think you have to imagine all the scenarios that could happen, if you became very sick and were not able to care for your child. If you ended up with a condition that affected your quality of life for the rest of your life. If you were fine but the kidney was rejected by your sister's body (so feels like a waste). If you got ill later in life with kidney cancer as was pp's experience. If you DD ever needed it.

I don't think your mum should ever have got involved, and should have left the decision to you. What she did was very noble but a parent child relationship is stronger than a sibling relationship. She also would have been an older donor (so less of life to lose if something had gone wrong) and didn't have caring responsibilities. So a completely different situation. In the same situation at the very least my mum would not have got involved and I think would have advised me against it as she also would be thinking of her GC in your case.

howdyalikemenow · 30/06/2019 10:07

I think you've made the right decision to write to your D's is direct and By-pass the BIL. Be prepared for vitriol and try to ignore as best you can. Her health issues are not your priority. There are other options and I've no doubt she's bullish enough to find one. Good luck with it all

SimplySteveRedux · 03/07/2019 18:32

From what I've heard the donors life span is dramatically reduced

During my chats with local transplant team (altruistic donation) I was told my lifespan wouldn't be affected, that kidney disease usually affects both kidneys and my greatest risk would be the surgery itself.

Aaarrgghhh · 04/07/2019 12:41

I feel for your sister, I really do but, I wouldn’t donate a kidney to her. I think it’s a bit bold to reach out to ask for something as big as this when you don’t talk any other time. Her having a daughter is not your problem as horrible as that sounds. What your sister is going through is awful and it’s horrible that people even need donated organs. My daughter is one of those people. She was three months old when she received a donated heart. But, your own health will be affected and recovery with a three year old will be hell. You need to think of you and your daughter first.

Happynow001 · 09/07/2019 17:26

How are you doing OP? Hope things have calmed down?

Shooturlocalmethdealer · 10/07/2019 07:30

@HermioneMakepeace Bless you.

Shooturlocalmethdealer · 10/07/2019 07:32

2 Corinthians 9:7 Each of you should give what you have decided in your heart to give, not reluctantly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver.

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