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To wonder what planet Boris Johnson and the conservatives are on

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cansu · 10/06/2019 17:22

Boris Johnson's big idea is to cut taxes for the wealthiest people in society. Jeremy Hunt is concerned about lowering the abortion limit. Matt Hancock had to literally be forced to comment on the scandal at Whorlton Hall. I have just watched the second panorama programme on care. We have a care crisis. We do not spend enough money on caring for elderly and disabled people. I honestly despair that anyone would consider voting for these idiots who have no understanding of normal life and the actual problems that people are facing.

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Whatafustercluck · 11/06/2019 08:38

The thing is, I literally could not care less what they consumed or didn't consume in their past - although no doubt they're only clamouring to declare it now before they're outed in the press. It's the hypocrisy that stinks.

Hermano · 11/06/2019 08:49

Joans3rddaughter

The figures discussed for a land value tax a couple of years ago were made up by either Boris or the telegraph, aka Boris.

They were completely imaginary

A land value tax has long been discussed as a much fairer was to tax then council tax, even than income tax. This view has been discussed by mainstream economic thinktanks

It would not lead to granny having her £1k council tax tripled. That is pure fantasy put about by the tories.

I wonder why they wanted normal people to think it's a bad idea and therefore vote against it?. Aybr because they protect the interests of the ruling classes, the aristocracy who own some huge proportion of the land in this country.

Why oh why would JC, who is called a socialist asan insult, want to double or triple ordinary people's tax bills? Surely it's much easier to believe the privileged few want to safeguard their own wealth?

And once again, all the figures discussed last election re this were completely fabricated.

And also Labour put in their manifesto they wanted to explore other options for taxation discuss them, not bring this one in. It was just an example of an option to be discussed.

Your representation of the tax is very misleading indeed

BlueSkiesLies · 11/06/2019 08:53

JC needs to go, to save our country.

I do not want to vote for the conservatives in the next GE, but I can not vote for labour whilst JC is their leader.

A nice left-central leader would dominate right now.

Hermano · 11/06/2019 08:55

Winston Churchill was allegedly a fan!
Land value tax:
moneyweek.com/497288/land-value-tax-the-least-bad-tax/

Summary:
^The owner of the property hasn’t paid for all the infrastructure that determines the location’s value. Someone else has: generations of taxpayers.
And a land-value tax (LVT) is a good way of reimbursing them for their efforts, and sustaining the state spending that underpins the society – and thus the land value – of the property. In economic theory, then, an LVT is a straightforward attempt to collect tax on what economists traditionally called the “unearned betterment” part of the value of a property – the rise in value that has nothing to do with the owner’s efforts and everything to do with the community’s^

ContinuityError · 11/06/2019 10:23

Boris’s only intention is to appeal to the pensioner Tory party members who pay tax but don’t pay NI - like my DM who moans about paying tax on her inherited generous civil service pension because she uses her tax allowance on her state pension and investment income.

As soon as he gets their vote you won’t ever hear of it again.

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