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To email burns nurse 2 years later?

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whatdoyouthinkk · 05/06/2019 15:58

Two years ago DS burnt his hand on my straighteners which was obviously an accident and as if I didn't feel like a bad mum enough the nurse made this report.

The first referral she made got closed she then contacted them again to express how frustrated she was that the first referral was closed as she had a major concern about the care of my son and for the case to be reviewed. It got closed again.

I've only just read it now as it was delivered to my mums house and I feel so bloody angry I was driving 100 miles to take DS to his burns appointments. Not once did I show any behaviour to suggest I couldn't care for my son.

I understand it's her job to refer to social services but to contact them twice in a week after they already closed it makes me so angry.

Aibu to email her?

OP posts:
corythatwas · 07/06/2019 17:37

OP, hopefully you can now let this go, after plenty of experienced people have assured you that the referral after an accident is common practice. In my own case, I was contacted by HV not only after the great misdiagnosis affair but also after an accident that raised absolutely no suspicion (involving a swing and plenty of witnesses); it was procedure.

Look at the bright side- this was 2 years ago, you have presumably got on with your life perfectly happily without having your life clouded by the thoughts that somebody might once have suspected you, your ds hasn't come to any harm, and the nurse has no doubt long since forgotten you. And no doubt you have proved yourself as a mother every day since. You're fine.

I do think that in serious cases more should be done to support a family that has come under suspicion but since you haven't even known about it, that can't really be the case here.

MzHz · 07/06/2019 18:28

stazzy with respect, that’s what I was told by the burns nurses, and it’s what happened

And indeed it’s been confirmed here due to size, age and other factors SS notifies. Whether they follow it up is down to the case/their own decision

tolerable · 07/06/2019 23:52

obviously...= to you. there are children subjectted to burns,intentionally.she persisted ,for whatever reason.be thankful someone else cares enough to query it.be the best mum you can. and ...picck your fights.you'll look psycho if email her.the end.xxx

Oliversmumsarmy · 08/06/2019 09:02

She didn't appear to even know it had happened until 2 years after the event

At the moment it is very raw in the ops mind. I think if the nurse had reported it to SS and they did nothing and closed it down then I fount the op would have been upset.

I think this rests on the nurse reporting it again. That she was not satisfied with SS handling and the inference was she knew better than SS and that she believed you were definitely abusing your child.

llizzie · 10/06/2019 23:46

If anyone burns or scalds themselves anywhere on the body the best treatment is cold water and lots of it. I had what could have been a terrible scald when my hand shook and boiling water went into my lap. Immediately we put buckets of water on it and 24 hours later the only sign there had ever been a scald were that we did not put enough cold water on the hot which ran down my thighs and which left red run marks. There was never a scar. Chances are that if anyone follows this first aid instruction there would be no need even for hospital treatment.

lyralalala · 11/06/2019 00:13

I think this rests on the nurse reporting it again. That she was not satisfied with SS handling and the inference was she knew better than SS and that she believed you were definitely abusing your child.

The nurse reported it after the op returned to the burns clinic 100 miles away rather than have treatment locally - that was for continuity of care for the OP, but that would possibly have been a referral on its own because it could have been avoiding known medics. Rather than the nurse just randomly reporting a second time maliciously.

hazeyjane · 11/06/2019 06:00

Ilizzie - Chances are that if anyone follows this first aid instruction there would be no need even for hospital treatment.

Not necessarily. When ds was scalded in an accident last year, the burn was under cool running water for the entire time we waited for an ambulance. The paramedics and burns unit said we had done exactly what should be done, but it still required extensive treatment and follow up care.

MzHz · 11/06/2019 08:21

Lizzie, tepid water is perfect, anything to stop the skin cooking. In our case I wet a towel in the shower and laid that in dc while I went to get a phone, dc couldn’t hold the shower as his hands were also burnt.

we’re talking serious burns here when a child needs hospital treatment and when skin is hanging off over 13% of your child’s body, hospital treatment IS required

It’s bonkers to suggest in the majority of cases hospital treatment isn’t necessary.

Large area burns on a child, especially where skin is broken need medical attention, 111 being the best place to start, then they can get the help needed to ascertain what needs to happen. Toxic shock is a very real risk

In our case the paramedics were with us within 10 minutes of my call, ambulances followed after while they worked out where best to take dc

llizzie · 11/06/2019 11:52

MzHz Was the burn on the op's child as bad as you describe? What you describe is indeed a serious case and should certainly be referred to hospital for treatment. I do not argue with that.

A valid point was made that the nurse's first referral was investigated and no further action was required, but that did not satisfy the nurse in question. She had to keep on about it and it is natural that the OP would want to know why. There is also the fact that this might continue until that nurse gets what she thinks is 'satisfaction' and that is very worrying.

There is another matter here which is not part of the discussion: the fact that the OP had to travel 100 miles to the appointment at the burns clinic. Why? Is it because NHS treatment centres are 'centralised' so that patients have to travel such distances for treatment? I have heard of parents being criticised for not visiting sick children often enough yet no one considers the difficulty in reaching specialist hospitals, or staying overnight in a hotel. It gets more like a communist state daily.

lyralalala · 11/06/2019 11:54

There is another matter here which is not part of the discussion: the fact that the OP had to travel 100 miles to the appointment at the burns clinic. Why? Is it because NHS treatment centres are 'centralised' so that patients have to travel such distances for treatment?

The OP said they could have had clinic appointments closer to home, but opted to have them at the original location.

hazeyjane · 11/06/2019 19:09

It gets more like a communist state daily. eh?!

hazeyjane · 11/06/2019 19:13

Also what you describe, Ilizzie...boiling water in the lap....is the sort of burn my son had. This still required an ambulance, transfer from a+e to the nearest specialist burn unit and weeks of follow up care from a specialist nurse. Cool running water for the suggested time is not always enough.

MzHz · 11/06/2019 22:56

Specialist burns units are in certain places only. We were initially sent to a hospital specialist in children’s medicine, then we were transferred to Salisbury, over an hour from our house

We were told that there was another in Kensington and one in Wales, serious cases get taken miles away from the accident or initial hospital. We didn’t even go to the hospital closest to us, they sent a special ambulance to take us to the first hospital and then we went on to Salisbury

A burn like the op described was at least as bad as my ds accident because the temperature was higher, the skin was younger and the fingers were so tiny and therefore more difficult to work with

Cool water is absolutely the best first aid, even if it’s a dirty pond in a garden, the important thing is to stop the cooking, antibiotics can treat the dirt, but the damage caused by burns is far more difficult to deal with.

That’s what the nurse told me in the burns unit. Any water will do.

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