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Future sister in law can't come to wedding

244 replies

LexCB · 30/05/2019 17:04

Hello one and all.
I'm not sure whether I just need to vent or whether I actually need advice...
We paid £1000 deposit to book our wedding on a reasonably priced last minute deal, to then find out we were having another baby and I'd actually be 5 months pregnant by our date in November 2019...so we rearranged for 15 months later for their slightly less reasonably priced winter package in February 2020.

Now it turns out we're idiots who didn't think to buy wedding insurance and the venue went bust- goodbye venue deposit and hello having to rearrange the whole blooming thing again, hoping the photographer, florist and registrar as well as whatever venue we find with our now even tighter budget, can all do the same date- so as to not lose any more deposits (get wedding insurance- I beg you 😂!!). Anyway, we found a new venue and a date where all these things aligned so snapped it up and paid the deposit to new venue for our new date of the Saturday in Easter weekend 2020. We then email out our second lot of save the dates and feel chuffed that we'd sorted it all. Unfortunately, my fiancee's sister says she won't be able to get the day off work from the conservative club she manages as there's an unofficial rule that no-one gets busy Easter or Xmas periods off. She also says that her partner's job won't give him time off as his contract says Easter weekend won't be granted as holiday and she then also goes on to say that her also won't be able to come on that date as he's hoping I get a job at the same place as her partner.

Now. Sigh. What do we do? I've emailed her back saying we really want them there and that obviously we wouldn't have gone with that date had we thought ppl couldn't get time off and I explained how we'd really appreciate it if they could at least ask/try to get time off, given the circumstances- I even gave my own example of how I've asked my work if I could have 3 days unpaid leave during term time (I work in a school) for the honeymoon and they, completely surprisingly, granted it! I told her that to try to highlight that it's at least worth asking. Anyway, we've had no reply and I get the sense they're not going to try and also that they're somehow a little offended that we've inadvertently booked the wedding on a day they might struggle to get off from work.

Soooo....on the face of it I've been really apologetic towards them, but really, I'm pretty annoyed that we even have to make the suggestion that they at least TRY to get it off. Is wedding fatigue making me unreasonable in asking them to try to get the day off? Should it be up to us to see whether there's another date we could rearrange for? I'm thinking of asking his sister whether she might be able to offer to take the day as unpaid leave rather than holiday, and we pay for her hotel...but don't want to offend her further!?

Anyway, help?! I don't think I actually have it in me to rearrange this bloody day again. But then I think- it's his sister and the Guestlist is already mainly ppl on my side as he's got such a small family. Massive, heavy and loud sigh

OP posts:
FenellaMaxwell · 31/05/2019 06:32

Well, pretty much everyone can come apart from your DP’s family..... Hmm

Icandothisallday · 31/05/2019 06:36

Everyone can come. Apart from then great

I really hope they havent all said they will come because they all think it wont go ahead then as well.

My friend cancelled her wedding a couple of times for the similar reasons.

Everyone said they were coming to the new date. People started dropping out in the weeks before. Turned out a good few of them thought it wasnt going to happen, so said they were coming. Then put it out of their mind. Then had other stuff on, when they realised it was going ahead.

maidenover · 31/05/2019 06:41

I’m not sure why you’re so surprised you got the answers you did on AIBU. Have you never read posts on this forum before?

wonderinwhy · 31/05/2019 06:45

Is your DH close to his sister? Does she actually want to come? Maybe she’s found an excuse? I wouldn’t change the date for one person. She might not truly want to be there anyway.

EnthusiasmIsDisturbed · 31/05/2019 06:46

Not sure why you are getting a hard time

What bad luck you have had you are not the first or the last to not get insurance

Lots of places of work have days that you can’t officially book off but many will be flexible and staff pull together to help each other out (or have done where I have worked)

Not sure what wrong with the date either. Let your partner deal with his side of the family

Crapplepie · 31/05/2019 06:58

Suggesting (which, let's face it, is what you did) she take unpaid leave, is ridiculous. DH works in a profession with fixed holidays, the only time he would ever take unpaid leave outside his fixed holidays is for events that really can't be changed. For example a family funeral that was outside the compassionate leave remit. Or when I had surgery and he accompanied me to a specialist hospital hi dreds of miles away. If I'd been given 3 dates for a wedding already, I wouldn't ask for time off either, until I knew, for certain, it was going to go ahead.

PlatoAteMyHamster · 31/05/2019 07:18

I also don’t understand all the posters who seem to think asking someone to take a day’s unpaid leave for their sibling’s wedding is akin to asking for their first born child. If you invite a self employed person, you are effectively asking them to do this. Honestly, all the drama.

If my sibling wouldn’t be willing to lose a day’s pay to go to my wedding then they wouldn’t be welcome. If they couldn’t budget financially for this economic loss in a financial year, I would be very worried about their solvency.

I would seriously ignore all the posters on this thread. They’re nuts. As if people behave like this in real life.

NameChangeNugget · 31/05/2019 07:22

She can’t go. End of.

Booking a day without checking was your issue here. It’s done now.

Hope all goes well

Dyrne · 31/05/2019 07:24

But the whole point of not allowing leave is so that people work - the business needs here there on that day, so they’re not going to grant unpaid leave?

You could easily turn it around and say “well if my sibling couldn’t be arsed to check with me to see if I could make those dates then clearly they’re not bothered about me attending”

Nice to see the snobs have started to come out as well with the sisters job Hmm surely the fact that it’s a small club makes it more difficult for a manager to take the time off, not less?

Laiste · 31/05/2019 07:59

maidenover - I’m not sure why you’re so surprised you got the answers you did on AIBU. Have you never read posts on this forum before?

Exactly. How many people would honestly be here if it was the Get A Polite Answer To A Boring Question board? Hmm

So at the big rant about your answers OP. Be grateful you got interest and got something out of it. So many people these days happily read AIBU for the entertainment of what it is and then when they post a thread here themselves they get arsey about the nature of the answers ...

YouBumder · 31/05/2019 08:03

How busy can a conservative club get?

Especially nowadays when they’re about as popular as a pork pie at a bar mitzvah

MrsHormonal2019 · 31/05/2019 08:22

My husband and my jobs are the same. No holidays are allowed over the run up to Xmas and any tohrt major holidays like Easter etc are very hard to get off.

Thewheelsarefallingoff · 31/05/2019 08:30

Can you go back to your original date when you'll be 5 months pregnant?

Damntheman · 31/05/2019 08:57

Wow how frustrating! I understand how you're feeling OP but I would advise that you try to let it go. Your wedding will be wonderful even without her there, it doesn't matter that she can't come really. You won't even remember she wasn't there a few years down the line. Enjoy your planning!

Dana28 · 31/05/2019 09:26

You have already changed the date twice. Your commw t about being very polite is hilarious. Haranguing your guests into pestering their employers to have time off at a time they know is banned, is the opposite of polite. Especially when you have changed the date twice and they had to presumably bookand cancel holiday.

IWannaSeeHowItEnds · 31/05/2019 09:48

Nr the whole ft yet but it seems the policy is an unwritten one and not contractual and therefore I think it's reasonable for the groom's sister to ask for the time off. Weddings don't happen every day for staff - it's not like booking a holiday. I think most employers understand that guests have no control over when these things are booked and that going to your brother's wedding is quite important. If they say no, then at least she tried.
I think it's impossible to book a wedding for a date that suits everyone. At some point you just have to book what is available and what you can afford. I think sil could try.

Bluntness100 · 31/05/2019 09:58

Jesus op that's one bitchy update. You might even win a mumsnet award for that. 🤣🤣🤣

0DimSumMum0 · 31/05/2019 10:11

To be honest I think you have been really jumped on here. I think when you arrange a wedding it has to be a date that is good for you first and foremost. As many posters have said you can't please everyone! If she wants to be there she will try her best to work something out against all the odds and with plenty of notice so will all of your guests.

PlatoAteMyHamster · 31/05/2019 11:21

The wisdom of crowds:
A single day off work in an annual leave banned period with a year’s notice- impossible, don’t even ask
V
Brexit- just get on with it, it can’t be that complicated

BessMarvin · 31/05/2019 12:59

*Thewheelsarefallingoff

Can you go back to your original date when you'll be 5 months pregnant?*

Maybe if she drives 88 mph in a delorian Grin

YouBumder · 31/05/2019 13:10

A single day off work in an annual leave banned period with a year’s notice- impossible, don’t even ask
V
Brexit- just get on with it, it can’t be that complicated

Exactly. Fucking nuts.

janetforpresident · 31/05/2019 13:18

BessMarvin Grin

Love the update LexCB you are definitely right not to start a thread on mumsnet anymore especially AIBU because guess what people can tell you that you are and they might even swear when they are doing It!

HoppingPavlova · 31/05/2019 15:29

So EVERYONE in a hospital/ the police/ roadside recovery etc works EVERY day over Easter weekend?

Well yes, all the medical staff in the A&E did. To cover 3 shifts a day we ALL did. You don’t just work 8hrs either it may be 15-20 with shift overlap due to quantity/cases. Nurses had a lot more flexibility with shifts so none would have worked all Easter unless they requested to for monetary reasons (not unheard of). You really don’t seem to understand the way this works?

HoppingPavlova · 31/05/2019 15:33

Oh, and again I should re-iterate if I was still in that role and my kids were getting married and gave me 12mths notice I would roll around the floor laughing assuming it was an April fools joke. They could have given me 20 years notice and it would not have been possible. Now I have escaped they can all get married whenever they want Grin.

PlatoAteMyHamster · 31/05/2019 17:20

Well yes, all the medical staff in the A&E did. To cover 3 shifts a day we ALL did. You don’t just work 8hrs either it may be 15-20 with shift overlap due to quantity/cases. Nurses had a lot more flexibility with shifts so none would have worked all Easter unless they requested to for monetary reasons (not unheard of). You really don’t seem to understand the way this works?

I’m not an expert, but I know many consultants who don’t have these issues with never being able to attend things ages in advance and most of them work 12 hour shifts minimium rather than 8 with an on off pattern that can usually be swapped if necessary with a colleague. I only know one dr but he also doesn’t seem to be permanently tethered to work and have problems getting time off when necessary. Maybe it depends where you live?!

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