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Future sister in law can't come to wedding

244 replies

LexCB · 30/05/2019 17:04

Hello one and all.
I'm not sure whether I just need to vent or whether I actually need advice...
We paid £1000 deposit to book our wedding on a reasonably priced last minute deal, to then find out we were having another baby and I'd actually be 5 months pregnant by our date in November 2019...so we rearranged for 15 months later for their slightly less reasonably priced winter package in February 2020.

Now it turns out we're idiots who didn't think to buy wedding insurance and the venue went bust- goodbye venue deposit and hello having to rearrange the whole blooming thing again, hoping the photographer, florist and registrar as well as whatever venue we find with our now even tighter budget, can all do the same date- so as to not lose any more deposits (get wedding insurance- I beg you 😂!!). Anyway, we found a new venue and a date where all these things aligned so snapped it up and paid the deposit to new venue for our new date of the Saturday in Easter weekend 2020. We then email out our second lot of save the dates and feel chuffed that we'd sorted it all. Unfortunately, my fiancee's sister says she won't be able to get the day off work from the conservative club she manages as there's an unofficial rule that no-one gets busy Easter or Xmas periods off. She also says that her partner's job won't give him time off as his contract says Easter weekend won't be granted as holiday and she then also goes on to say that her also won't be able to come on that date as he's hoping I get a job at the same place as her partner.

Now. Sigh. What do we do? I've emailed her back saying we really want them there and that obviously we wouldn't have gone with that date had we thought ppl couldn't get time off and I explained how we'd really appreciate it if they could at least ask/try to get time off, given the circumstances- I even gave my own example of how I've asked my work if I could have 3 days unpaid leave during term time (I work in a school) for the honeymoon and they, completely surprisingly, granted it! I told her that to try to highlight that it's at least worth asking. Anyway, we've had no reply and I get the sense they're not going to try and also that they're somehow a little offended that we've inadvertently booked the wedding on a day they might struggle to get off from work.

Soooo....on the face of it I've been really apologetic towards them, but really, I'm pretty annoyed that we even have to make the suggestion that they at least TRY to get it off. Is wedding fatigue making me unreasonable in asking them to try to get the day off? Should it be up to us to see whether there's another date we could rearrange for? I'm thinking of asking his sister whether she might be able to offer to take the day as unpaid leave rather than holiday, and we pay for her hotel...but don't want to offend her further!?

Anyway, help?! I don't think I actually have it in me to rearrange this bloody day again. But then I think- it's his sister and the Guestlist is already mainly ppl on my side as he's got such a small family. Massive, heavy and loud sigh

OP posts:
MRex · 01/06/2019 13:29

The chances of the assistant manager getting married that Saturday seem remote.

There's no suggestion that it's a destination wedding. Say it's 3 hours away, nice to stay over but SIL could leave at 10pm, taxi to train, to then work the next day. If she wanted to. OP's issue is that SIL didn't try at all to make any part of the day, I think that's a very fair thing to be annoyed about.

Snapandyourgone · 01/06/2019 13:35

How does op know she hasnt tried?

Maybe she has tried to get Easter off before. Or knows theres no chance.

OP didnt have to check the date with anyone. But cant then moan, a bank holiday weekend doesnt work.

If sil attendance is so important to her, she would have checked.

Snapandyourgone · 01/06/2019 13:36

And working in a school she is tied in to having a wedding outwith term time herself. I got married in a holiday period, everyone was able to make it.

Oh is Easter the only weekend in a school holidays in a year?

As I said she didnt have to check. But it take the piss to not check then moan someone cant come.

allthegoodusernameshavegone · 01/06/2019 13:39

I worked in hospitality for years and there wouldn’t be a chance in hell of getting Easter off.

PCohle · 01/06/2019 13:55

She probably can't be arsed kicking up a fuss at work when you've changed the wedding date twice already.

Getting time of work for your own wedding is totally different than for a sibling's.

StillCoughingandLaughing · 01/06/2019 14:17

There's no suggestion that it's a destination wedding. Say it's 3 hours away, nice to stay over but SIL could leave at 10pm, taxi to train, to then work the next day. If she wanted to.

There’s also no suggestion that it’s three hours away. Pure speculation. The only fact we have is that the OP was going to offer to pay for a hotel (in return for her SIL taking unpaid leave 🙄)

Your scenario is reliant on the wedding venue being a short taxi ride from a train station with a train to the SIL’s home town after 10pm. Even in the best case scenario, in which the venue is next to the station, there’s a direct train and the SIL lives in walking distance at the other end, she’s not getting home much before 1.30am. And that’s with the absolute minimum in connection times.

MRex · 01/06/2019 14:34

@allthegoodusernameshavegone
I worked in hospitality for years and there wouldn’t be a chance in hell of getting Easter off.

Wow, are you really sure that you and your colleagues were all forced to work 4 double shifts in a row? Think hard.

@StillCoughingandLaughing - we don't know unless OP comes back, the venue might only be an hour away. Being in the UK and no particular comments about "can't get on / off Orkney with these timings" we know it isn't 2 days travel time each way, right?

PCohle · 01/06/2019 14:43

Surely the person best placed to know whether the SIL can have Easter off is... the SIL, not a load of strangers pontificating on the Internet.

Lizzie48 · 01/06/2019 15:14

It’s a lot of pressure to put on a SIL, especially suggesting that she takes unpaid leave! And that after messing her around over the date of the wedding.

When I got married, I wanted those close to me to enjoy the weekend, not to feel that I was putting undue pressure on them.

MissEliza · 01/06/2019 15:20

I think YABU. She agreed to the other dates so she's not trying to be difficult. I would find the repeated changing of dates annoying tbh.

DecomposingComposers · 01/06/2019 15:29

And maybe SIL is worried that, having kicked up a fuss at work to get this day off, you then change the date for a 4th time?

rookiemere · 01/06/2019 15:43

Perhaps SIL arranged day off for first date and was surprised the wedding was postponed.

StillCoughingandLaughing · 01/06/2019 15:59

we don't know unless OP comes back, the venue might only be an hour away.

Then why the need for a hotel?

Upzadaizy · 01/06/2019 16:44

but really, I'm pretty annoyed that we even have to make the suggestion that they at least TRY to get it off

YABU to be annoyed. You’ve changed the date , what, twice?

You’ve wheedled time off work for your honeymoon but it’s your honeymoon! You can’t expect other people to give your wedding the same priority in their lives. Especially as it’s you who’s shifted the date ....

bananasandwicheseveryday · 01/06/2019 20:11

Sorry, but I think yabu. This is the second date change, she's probably asked for those dates and had to go back and change them. Maybe she doesn't want to ask her employer to change again, this time to a date that she knows is out of bounds. Many jobs have 'no leave allowed'periods - retail workers often cannot take leave during December and into January, hospitality workers will find that leave is not allowed around peak times such as holiday periods and, depending on what type of hospitality, wedding season and so on. In the school where I work, someone might be allowed a couple of days unpaid leave for their honeymoon or a child's wedding, but not for a friend.
I can also imagine that somewhere like a club might be a venue for all sorts of functions, such as weddings and Easter is obviously a popular time for this - the manager would likely be expected to be there.

yearinyearout · 01/06/2019 20:49

It's a whole year away! I can't believe they can't try and get time off for a close family wedding so far in advance, but if they genuinely can't then I guess you just have to accept they won't be there. Enjoy your day!

WeBuiltThisBuffetOnSausageRoll · 02/06/2019 00:44

It's a whole year away! I can't believe they can't try and get time off for a close family wedding so far in advance

The thing is, though, that Easter weekend is always massively busy for leisure, hospitality and tourist-based businesses.

I can confidently tell you now, in 2019, that whichever dates Good Friday to Easter Monday fall on in 2020 - and 2030 and 2040, for that matter (assuming that the bank holidays aren't scrapped or changed) - will still be massively busy for those industries.

WeBuiltThisBuffetOnSausageRoll · 02/06/2019 00:46

....and therefore, a complete blanket-ban on all staff leave (unless for urgent, genuinely unforeseeable reasons) will be extremely likely.

WeBuiltThisBuffetOnSausageRoll · 02/06/2019 00:52

You’ve wheedled time off work for your honeymoon but it’s your honeymoon! You can’t expect other people to give your wedding the same priority in their lives.

Absolutely. People who have destination weddings (where there's no family link or other reason for the chosen far-flung location) and expect everybody to use their annual leave and pay shedloads of cash to attend - rather than having a sensibly-local ceremony and reception and then an exotic honeymoon just for the bride and groom whose wedding it actually is - should also take note.

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