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AIBU?

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240 replies

justlonelystars · 29/05/2019 17:15

I recently got married and I have received a birthday card from a (well wishing I’m sure) elderly relative made out to Mrs John Smith rather than Mrs Jane Smith. AIBU to be annoyed at the old fashioned sexism here that makes me feel like I’m owned by my husband? I know there are bigger things to worry about but it’s irritated me somewhat

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MoreSlidingDoors · 30/05/2019 12:34

One woman’s bollocks is another woman’s good manners. Disagreement is allowed.

How can it possibly be good manners to assume someone is happy to be referred to as a belonging of the male person they have a legal relationship with?

Idontwanttotalk · 30/05/2019 12:36

It wouldn't bother me, certainly wouldn't waste energy feeling annoyed about it.

Alsohuman · 30/05/2019 12:36

We disagree. Shall we just leave it there?

MoreSlidingDoors · 30/05/2019 12:39

It wouldn't bother me, certainly wouldn't waste energy feeling annoyed about it.

Really? You don’t see what it signifies? You don’t care about that?

What if your name was Jane but someone refused to call you that, calling you Tom because they felt like it? You wouldn’t correct them?

WheresTheWineHey · 30/05/2019 12:41

@Idontwanttotalk
I'm with you! No interest in harbouring negative energy about something that you can choose not to be offended by.
Next!

LesLavandes · 30/05/2019 12:42

No need to get annoyed with this. YABU. Who cares.

MissSingerbrains · 30/05/2019 13:08

It seems very old-fashioned and American? At least I’ve had elderly American relatives address me like that. Doesn’t bother me but I do raise my eyebrows a bit. It does come across a bit Handmaid’s Tale-esque these days; Ofglen and Offred etc.

WeBuiltThisBuffetOnSausageRoll · 30/05/2019 13:17

We sent one to our widowed friend Mrs Thomas Skinner and when her daughter married the invitation was from Mrs Thomas Skinner too. She likes having her husband remembered.

Fair enough, her choice - but surely the fact that she's 'Mrs' and they all share the surname that originally came from him is a clear acknowledgement of him? Can we not remember a deceased parent without ignoring the one who is still living? If she had died before the marriage and her husband had still been alive, would he have felt it a nice way to remember his late wife by sending invitations from 'Mr Barbara Skinner'?

DelusionalDog · 30/05/2019 13:55

dont let it irritate you, its just their way. im sure in 40 years you will do something you deem "normal" that a niece or nephew pulls their face at.

MoreSlidingDoors · 30/05/2019 14:05

dont let it irritate you, its just their way.

Do you think the same about racism, ageism, disableism?

SoupDragon · 30/05/2019 14:16

Yeah, because using outdated etiquette is exactly the same as racism 🙄

BertrandRussell · 30/05/2019 14:22

“Yeah, because using outdated etiquette is exactly the same as racism“

Well, being sexist is pretty much the same as the sort of racism we are always being told to excuse in the “older generation”.......

SoupDragon · 30/05/2019 14:22

🙄

SoupDragon · 30/05/2019 14:23

If you really think they are the same you're just making yourself look stupid.

WhoKnewBeefStew · 30/05/2019 14:24

Life is too short to let things like that get to you tbh. Especially if it’s from an elderly relative

BertrandRussell · 30/05/2019 14:26

Fair enough. I think calling a black person “coloured” is racist. I think calling a woman “Mrs John Smith” is sexist. Both of these things were acceptable 40 years ago. They aren’t now. But they are both excused because “that’s what people were taught at school then”

redspider1 · 30/05/2019 15:59

Black people often use the term 'people of colour'.

redspider1 · 30/05/2019 16:00

As with most things it is all about intent.

granny24 · 30/05/2019 16:10

Sliding doors. No you are quite right we have moved on. But it took me ages to remember not to punctuate addresses etc. If you do not have regular contact with younger people it is perfectly possible to live in the past.

MoreSlidingDoors · 30/05/2019 16:21

As with most things it is all about intent.

The intent to identify me literally as my husband’s possession isn’t really something to applaud, surely?

Alsohuman · 30/05/2019 16:24

We’re not talking about you. Strange as that may seem.

MarjoryDawess · 30/05/2019 16:26

YABU it’s not a big deal

redspider1 · 30/05/2019 16:32

There was no intent to offend or belittle.

avocadochocolate · 30/05/2019 16:36

Well I wouldn't like it but I would forgive an elderly person. It used to be the right thing to do.

BertrandRussell · 30/05/2019 16:39

I don’t think the intent thing flies, really. Basically you’re saying “you can say anything you like to anyone so long as you’re not meaning to offend”. It’s like the “I was only joking” defence of bullies through the ages.

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