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To want baby to have my surname too

230 replies

Sashadublin · 27/05/2019 17:49

I'm due my first baby mid- June. DH and I very excited. When we got married I kept my name, for a few reasons, including that I'm an only child with quite an unusual surname and it would effectively end with me if I didn't. No issue from DH at the time. We had discussed and agreed that baby would have both my and his surname. They work well together. Not going to hyphenate it, but have the two and when the child is older if she just wants to use DH's surname, that's fine. Realistically happy for my name to at least be on the child's birth cert, but school, everyday usage can just be DH's . However DH recently had conversation with his sister who said this was a terrible idea. If my name was in the baby's surname on the cert for ever more she would have to have both. Asked a solicitor who specialises in family law and he said that was absolute nonsense, and practical for passports etc.I told DH I would compromise and just have my name on the birth cert but for everything else the baby can go by his surname only. He said no there can't be any compromise, the baby simply can't have my surname as well as his on the birth cert; just his. I'm absolutely stunned. Their family has 3 sons, they already have 4 grandchildren with that surname. It's just me in my family. His family are very unhappy about my wish apparently. I just don't get it, I'm hardly demanding we only use my surname for the baby. Exhausted and surprised at my DH. He says it's just a name and I'm being silly

OP posts:
Ravingstarfish · 27/05/2019 23:22

If it’s ‘just a name’ tell him not to be so silly, baby will just have your surname

Sashadublin · 28/05/2019 07:57

Sorry, one last thing. The sister's main objection to the use of 2 surnames was that she said it's a sign of divorced or separated parents, and so the child has subsequently been given both names. I have never heard/ thought this at all before when meeting someone with 2 surnames. Is that a thing? Has anyone come across that?

OP posts:
AppleDump · 28/05/2019 08:01

Is she on glue?

Gruzinkerbell1 · 28/05/2019 08:04

Register the birth on your own and just use your name. It is after all “just a name”.

One surname should keep batshit crazy SIL happy too.

Mummyshark2018 · 28/05/2019 08:33

I double barrelled my name when I married, although for everyday use (work etc) it's the same as my dh's. Our dd has both our names, but my maiden surname as a middle name so e.g Lucy Grace Jones Smith. Everyday use we use Lucy Smith but from about age 3 she was able to Rhyme off her full name and likes that she has the same as mummy and daddy. Stick to your guns! Never heard what your sil said about divorced parents!

Veterinari · 28/05/2019 08:35

The sister's main objection to the use of 2 surnames was that she said it's a sign of divorced or separated parents, and so the child has subsequently been given both names.

No. She’s bonkers.
Also, it’s got fuck all to do with her - why does the child’s Aunt get more of a say in the child’s name than the child’s mother??

Catapultaway · 28/05/2019 08:37

I must admit I hate the idea of not having the same surname as my children, if I was going double barrelled I would be changing my name too.

BertrandRussell · 28/05/2019 08:39

If you don’t hyphenate, then his name will be the only one used. Insist on the hyphen.

TheRedBarrows · 28/05/2019 08:49

SIL is wrong.
My kids have hyphenated surnames.
As do about a third of their classmates.
What is a ‘thing’ is women not changing their names, men not choosing instead to adopt the woman’s name, so parents giving their children both of the family surnames.

But even so, what does it matter and what business is it if hers, and why does her opinion as future aunt count for more than yours as mother?

Treaclesweet · 28/05/2019 09:01

I think it's increasingly common and not as a divorce thing. We gave our son my name and my partner will take it when we marry. It's a nicer and more interesting name than dps.

I agree with pp that if he wants the baby to have one name then it should be your name. You're carrying and birthing the baby!

Such a twit move to cause undue emotional stress to a pregnant woman. You should tell him that.

fedup21 · 28/05/2019 09:02

I’m sorry, but why has his sister’s opinion got anything to do with this?!

What have you said to him since?

legolimb · 28/05/2019 09:26

Lots of replies already but I agree with PPs in that you should register the birth. Give baby both surnames - problem solved.

My DS is now in his 20s but I gave him my surname - as despite me and his father being happy together he said he had no intention of marrying me. ? It caused an issue in his family who said it implied that the mother did not know who the father was - hence giving the baby her own name. I laughed heartily at that one and carried on regardless.

YouBumder · 28/05/2019 09:28

Tell him to fuck himself. Who does he think he is telling you you “can’t” do anything in relation to naming your own child?! I’d wait til he was back at work and go and register the child on your own then.

CruellaFeinberg · 28/05/2019 09:29

go for the Spanish way, traditionally, a person's first surname is the father's first surname (apellido paterno), while their second surname is the mother's first surname (apellido materno).

(although eventually the Mothers name will vanish though)

Faster · 28/05/2019 09:31

My DS has both mine and his dads surnames, not hyphenated. We both use both names as his surname, well, because they’re both his surname.
I think your DH is entirely unreasonable. And his family should piss off.

BertrandRussell · 28/05/2019 09:31

Just hypenate the way round that sounds best.

Inertia · 28/05/2019 09:33

His sister can name her own babies! Your in-laws are being utterly ridiculous.

Perfectly sensible for the baby to have both parents' surnames, as you each have a different one.

Reachbackforthechair · 28/05/2019 09:33

I certainly wouldn’t budge on that issue. I think it’s lovely and practical for children to have both surnames.
I’m at the end of my family’s line and I have no siblings. My surname is very unusual whereas DH’s name is extremely common. There’s no way I’d allow my children to just have his surname.

YouBumder · 28/05/2019 09:36

IBecause the OP wants to keep her own name rather than be labelled as her husband’s property?*

I completely support the OP and anyone who keeps their name on marriage but changing it on marriage does not equate to being “labelled your husband’s property” ffs. If you’re a vet as your name suggests I’m very surprised by someone so intelligent making such a stupid comment.

LunchBoxPolice · 28/05/2019 09:38

My son has his father's surname and we separated when he was 1 year old. I reverted back to my maiden name and wish I'd have insisted that my son had my surname when we registered him.
I have asked his father if he is happy to double barrel our son's name but he is refusing, so now I have to apply to the court to add my surname to my son's name. The child I gave birth to Hmm
Don't end up like me!

mycatisblack · 28/05/2019 09:47

My adult step children were originally given both parents names at birth but after their mum died, they decided to use her surname as their official name and dropped DH's name as both surnames together was just too long.
DH knows they're his children and they love him so he doesn't care that they only use their mums surname and not his.
DGC has been given their mum's surname (foreign) so haven't got their dads name either.
Loving and supporting your family is all that matters, not what name they choose to use.

I think you need to hold out for your surname in this instance and set the precedent that you won't be undermined and have your opinions ridiculed and called 'silly'. Otherwise, what else will DH suddenly decide after interference from his family?

florascotia2 · 28/05/2019 09:52

This is a bit late - it refers to comments made about 2 pages ago. But nevertheless:

The custom of a woman taking a man' surname on marriage is NOT a very old one. From the sixteenth century, parish registers (religious records of baptisms, marriages and burials) recorded couples' names, but they reveal a mixed picture: very often they write of (eg) 'Mary Smith the wife of John Jones'. And even male surnames, changed, too, with change of residence, occupation or even on marriage.

What really fixed surnames was the introduction of compulsory state registration of births, marriages and deaths in the 19th century, plus ten-yearly censuses of population. They recorded all names in relation to the 'head' of the household. That was usually a man, though it could be a widowed or single woman.

Even today, a surname is not legally fixed in the same way as a first name. You can call yourself any surname you like, so long as you don't intend fraud. It makes it easier, when dealing with officialdom, to change a name officially. But legally, that's not essential.

The concept of a woman passing from her father's guardianship to her husband's on marriage is much older than the use of surnames. So is the concept of a woman's property usually passing to her husband on marriage (this was abolished/amended in the 19th cent). The ideas overlapped, but were not intrinsically connected.

None of this solves the OP's problem, which seems to be that her husband is too easily influenced by his family and is ignoring thier own earlier understanding.

Smelborp · 28/05/2019 09:54

Agree with everyone else. Nip this in the bud. His family doesn’t have more of a day than the mother of the child.

BertrandRussell · 28/05/2019 09:55

“I completely support the OP and anyone who keeps their name on marriage but changing it on marriage does not equate to being “labelled your husband’s property”

Doesn’t it? What’s the reason for doing it then?

Reenascreena · 28/05/2019 10:07

Now, Bertrand, you're ignoring the 'fact' that women always have awful birth surnames, or they remind them of their nasty parents, or they're not 'really' their names, because gotcha there! they're their fathers' names. Grin

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