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To be delighted That Leave Have Lost

734 replies

donotcovertheradiator · 27/05/2019 00:18

I know it looks as if Brexit have won but in every single case, if you add up all the votes secured by the other parties then together they have more votes than Brexit. That means more people want to remain in Europe than Leave.

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woman19 · 27/05/2019 20:02

You are funnier than you will ever know. Thanks Justanotherlurker.😂

BMW6 · 27/05/2019 20:02

Labour and Conservative are still aiming for a compromise and there is no compromise to make. You either want to be in EU or out.

Totally agree. The country is totally divided on this, no clear majority either way. and both sides have just become more entrenched.

Whatever happens in the future half the population is going to be bitterly disappointed to say the least. Some may be so enraged they may protest violently. My sister predicted Civil War - I hope her fears are unfounded and that cooler heads will prevail, whatever way it goes in the end. And it must end soon, one way or another.

Maybe 31st October is totally appropriate for it........

Justanotherlurker · 27/05/2019 20:09

You are funnier than you will ever know. Thanks Justanotherlurker.😂

Great come back, your superior intellect is shining through..

You are part of the problem us remainers have with online debates.

Whats funny is that for everyone else it is you that has ignored any points raised to you, your zombie apocalypse degree has done you proud!

BlueJag · 27/05/2019 20:13

@woman19 Did Dianne counted the votes herself? I'll demand a recount at once.
You are quite a Labour supporter and a firm remainder. You poor soul you most be so disappointed about the Brexit Party winning big last night. Next stop general elections. Let's all leave the EU 🎉

4legsandawaggytail · 27/05/2019 20:23

So funny! Put a remain promotion onto everything you can. As if every person who did not vote for the Brexit Party wants to Remain. I wish they'd do that with the football matches.... results would be very different.

caringcarer · 27/05/2019 20:24

I do not know anyone at all who has changed their mind since the 2016 referendum. I have asked a lot of people if they would still vote the same way and they all say yes, who ever they voted for. The country is still split, communities are still split and families are still split. I was 14 when we went in and this is the first time I have got to vote because we were banned on voting on Maatricht. Referendums don't come around very often and now we see why. Young people have never known anything but being in EU so hard for them to imagine not being in. The comment that old people should not be allowed to vote is ridiculous. They have paid their taxes for longer than most.

caringcarer · 27/05/2019 20:27

The turn out to vote was far far less than in UK referendum, which showed many people just could not be arsed to go out to vote.

TeacupDrama · 27/05/2019 20:27

THE SNP clearly won in Scotland but approximately a third of supporters of Scottish independence want complete independence they do not want to swap Westminster for Brussels so they are the SNP voters that voted leave in the referendum, so they will support the SNP to get independence to get them MSPs, MEPs and MPs but they will not vote for Scotland to join EU

These wanting true and complete independence are a hard core that will still want independence even if it means austerity and a drop in income living standards as they value independence more and believe in the long term the economy will eventually recover as Scotland works and uses it's resources , they understand they can't rely on rising oil prices. Not many are so hardline that they think a drop in GDP and standard of living is worth it

of course there are also people who feel like this about the UK they know that Brexit will bring short to medium term hardship but they believe that complete sovereignty and independence are worth the financial cost
While I do not support this view I can understand even admire the integrity of it, they are not fluffy unicorn supporters of leave

Justanotherlurker · 27/05/2019 20:32

The turn out to vote was far far less than in UK referendum, which showed many people just could not be arsed to go out to vote.

The problem is that for the past 3 years a lot of the vocal remainers have used the non voters as being happy with the status quo therefore, wanted to stay in the EU by default, the fact that status quo now is leaving then it will require a lot of mental gymnastics,

FFSeverynameisused · 27/05/2019 20:48

they haven't lost?

it's still a massive fuck up of a situation

There isn't a single party I'd vote for now.

It's all just a mess.

Alsohuman · 27/05/2019 20:51

Everyone’s lost. The repercussions of this lunacy will still be going on long after I’m dead and gone.

Justanotherlurker · 27/05/2019 21:14

Going back through the thread there are a couple of mentions about the revoke petition getting less votes, for the ardent remainer this argument this should be alarming and not something to mock. It requires far more effort to vote than to fill in a petition online and yet Farage's party party was still able to achieve 86.25% of the same amount of votes despite people in the online petition being able to vote multiple times and from foreign nations. And that's with approximately 63% of the electorate not bothering to turn up to vote at all in the EU elections.s.

Justanotherlurker · 27/05/2019 21:15

the revoke petition getting less votes

getting more votes

DontMakeMeShushYou · 27/05/2019 21:42

Crikey Moses!

Nearly 650 posts debating whether leave or remain won in a vote that WASN'T A REFERENDUM. It would be hilarious if it wasn't real life.

DontMakeMeShushYou · 27/05/2019 21:44

It requires far more effort to vote than to fill in a petition online and yet Farage's party party was still able to achieve 86.25% of the same amount of votes despite people in the online petition being able to vote multiple times and from foreign nations.

They're two entirely different platforms, appealing to different subsets of people. Comparing the two is just, well … stupidity.

Stillpinching · 27/05/2019 23:15

Well whatever the figures say farage was mightily pissed off and tectchy on C4 news tonight, which was very gratifying. if he's not happy that's got to be a good sign. What a horrible man he is. Why anyone sees him as a man of the people is utterly beyond me.

Anyway, that aside the figures are now quite clear. Remain 40, Brexit 34 and neither includes con or lab. It's tight but definitely not a mandate for crashing out at all.

Rufusthebewilderedreindeer · 27/05/2019 23:26

foreign nations

Why can’t my friends abroad sign the referendum?

Were there any figures released? Its just I've heard that foreign people signed and i wonder how people know

Alsohuman · 27/05/2019 23:28

What was Farage pissed off about? I’d have thought he’d be over the moon.

Tavannach · 27/05/2019 23:44

Yep, I agree Leave lost

40% Remain
35% Leave
23% Conservative /Labour (loyal party voters - will include Tory remainers and Labour leavers. Basically cancel one another out.)

To be delighted That Leave Have Lost
usernameuser · 28/05/2019 00:48

Yep, I agree Leave lost

Agree all you like, you are wrong. HTH

Desolate1 · 28/05/2019 06:30

I would say that we are as divided as ever, and there is no mandate for a no deal Brexit.

Though the swivel headed loons will say that there is, and apparently we listen to fascist demagogues now, so who knows where we are headed.

Cwenthryth · 28/05/2019 06:44

Another factor confounding interpreting this as remain vs leave/pseudo second referendum, is that apparently turnout was higher in remain-voting areas compared to leave-voting areas - as this was a vote to select MEPs so many leave supporters either didn’t vote on principle (as ‘we shouldn’t be having the vote’ in the first place) or just thought it was unnecessary and didn’t bother, as we’re leaving anyway. Leave now is the status quo as someone else wrote, so remain voters were more motivated to make their protest votes in this election compared to leavers, who as has been said many times have already won, it’s just that the government has failed to deliver - so
far.

Stillpinching · 28/05/2019 06:50

Alsohuman he was pissed off because he obviously broadly agrees with the OP and several others on here. Leave may not have lost exactly but it absolutely wasn't the resounding victory he predicted. Without including con or lab remain beat Brexit. The con lab votes were probably split both ways but it's fair to say the lab vote would have been compromised of more remain votes, or at least soft Brexit votes, which apparently is not Brexit at all now. So it's not the result he wanted and I'm amazed so many on here think it was.

Then the interviewer pissed him off more by rudely asking about his manifesto and other impertinent things like that...

Funniest thing on this thread is the poster who said Alastair Campbell has made offensive comments about farage's funding. With that ridiculous attitude I almost think we deserve all we get as a nation. The man is terrifying yet people think he's a talented politician. Talented politicians achieve stuff for their country while bringing diverse groups of people with them and dealing with a range of events largely outside their control. He has done nothing like that, he just stirs up hatred and anger by appealing to people's misguided sense of injustice and other, baser instincts. Watch the interview. Him as pm- not a happy prospect.

Cwenthryth · 28/05/2019 06:57

In what scenario do you imagine Farage becoming PM?

NoYo · 28/05/2019 07:00

Some of the comments on here are pure Orwellian newspeak.
Brexit Party gained the most seats = they lost.
Lib Dems / Greens not as many seats = they won.

Some people must be exhausted from all the mental gymnastics.