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AIBU?

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AIBU expecting DP to fund everything?

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TLBftm · 09/05/2019 19:16

Ok so I have a newborn. I’ve taken 9 months mat leave but I don’t plan on going back to my place of work, which will be fine as I’m only getting smp so won’t owe anything back. Reason being it’s over an hour away from home and I hated the place anyway, I was looking to move on when I discovered I was pregnant but stuck around then.

Anyway, I keep saying to DP we need to discuss what will happen after the 9 month but we just never get round to the convo.
I text him today saying can we discuss it tonight as we need to get a plan in place, he agreed and asked what I’m thinking about it all. To which I said, ideally, I’d like to take a year off and then go back part time for a while. I don’t want to leave my child with anyone else until he’s 1. And I want a day or two In the week with him when I do go back. He didn’t really like that response and mentioned money, then said let’s chat tonight. I asked what’s his thoughts or suggestions then, and he said he doesn’t know, he doesn’t really have an answer.

Is it unreasonable to expect him to pay everything so I can have a year off with my DS, then to foot more than we were once used to so I can work part time?

I feel like the convo is going to be awkward, he’s already paying our mortgage and bills and food. I use my smp for my direct debits and for DS. But he does complain about that. He’s used to carrying 100’s over each month and now he can’t. He spends a fair amount of money each month on football bets, beers with the lads and clothes, and other things that could easily be cut back on. I feel wrong to expect him to cut back. Not asking him to stop, but we would be ok money wise for me to take a year off and go back part time if he can make sacrifices, it’s just like he doesn’t wanna.

AIBU here? And how do I speak to him about this?! I think he feels it’s unfair he has to work full time and pay everything (that’s the vibe I get) but I see it as I’ve always worked and payed half, I’ve sacrificed a lot having DS (which I’m not complaining about) I run the household, cleaning cooking organising the shopping etc and general other things is women do. Again I’m not complaining or saying I want his help, truth is I’d rather do it all myself I enjoy it and know it’s all done and all done properly. So in saying that, I feel bad for saying this, he doesn’t do much for us.. if that makes sense? He’s a great DP and great Dad and we have a great relationship, I just don’t know how to make him see that he needs to step up financially.... or am I in the wrong?

What does everyone else do and how can I get this across?

OP posts:
GrandTheftWalrus · 11/05/2019 23:05

I wanted to quit work after I had dd and it would've been left to DP to pay everything. I then realised that wasnt fair and I actually went back to work before my mat leave ended.

It's not fair to spring it on him at all

bluebeck · 11/05/2019 23:29

YANBU

OP is only saying she wants to take an additional 3 months parental leave than what they originally agreed. She isn't saying she is never returning to work!

He’s used to carrying 100’s over each month and now he can’t. He spends a fair amount of money each month on football bets, beers with the lads and clothes, and other things that could easily be cut back on.

I would be very unhappy about family money being spent on gambling if DP is prioritising this over parental leave!!!

LazyLeann · 12/05/2019 00:32

I think this all depends on how easily you will be able to find a new job.

I would not recommend resigning if jobs in your industry are not plentiful. It is hard work job seeking and interviewing with a baby, I have done this and do not recommend. Much better to just go back and get on with the long commute and give yourself some time to find a job, whilst you're still working.

You say you work with the NHS? Are you able to do weekend work? Dp could care for baby while you work. This might easer the finances for a few months. I also think it would be a helpful for DP to fully care for baby alone, good for bonding. From your posts it doesn't sound as if he has done much lifestyle changing since the baby was born.

Oliversmumsarmy · 12/05/2019 01:38

The reason I posted was because there is another way other than diving back into work at the first opportunity.

I never went back to work after I had my first.
Partly because i was bored to tears, partly because my salary didn’t cover childcare costs and partly because pregnancy made me disabled.

I enjoyed my time with dd and Ds and met some amazing mums who were in a similar position in finding going out to work as financially unviable.
A few started their own small business just to bring in some money and with not having any childcare to pay for on paper were earning more than if they toiled away at a ft job.
Even doing a bit of matched betting would have been more profitable.
Sometimes you have to do the maths and it isn’t a case of you must go out to work to contribute if your contribution is being spent on facilitating you actually going to work.

TLBftm · 13/05/2019 12:40

Hi guys!

Apologies, had a busy few days we were hit with a bug 😷🤮 all is well again and I’ve had chance to read through all advice and posts :) as I said though, we have had a chat and all is well.

I do think a lot of people on here sound harsh and make lots of assumptions. Which is fine, because none of know each other and the amount of info you can get into one thread doesn’t really give the complete overview of your life.

A lot have bashed my DP (and me) but he’s not a bad person at all. Nor am I.

So just going to clear up a few things before getting on to the outcome :)

The few comments about the way we were brought up, how our families must have been etc etc is nonsense :) both our parents have been together since before 20 years of age and are still together now. Never was it ever ‘toxic’ etc etc, and I think maybe we see things a bit different to each other based on our parents.... my mum has 4 children and was a SAHM for years and years, she is now back in her career full time, and is very happy with my dad. DPs mum has 2 DCs and took 6 month off after each then went back to work full time. As I say, maybe we follow on our parents footsteps more than we realise sometimes and perhaps that’s why we saw things so differently.

Me and DP earned the same when we first met. We worked together in the same role! That’s where we met. It was a sales job. (A lot of you will cringe at this....) but, we very quickly rented a house together, travelled to work in the car together, spent our working day sat on desks opposite each other, spent breaks and lunch together then spent he evening together and repeat. A lot used to say they couldn’t do this etc etc but we loved it! And we did it for about a year and half. Then the company turned into a nightmare and we both wanted out. We actually struggled to start with because we were so used to each other’s company all the time. Obvs we saw our own friends etc too but a lot of time was spent together. Anyway, that’s why we did a 50/50 split. We earned the same. And at that time, we did just both chip in and whatever needed doing cooking/cleaning wise, one of us just did it. We both moved into separate jobs, still sales, but I very quickly became unhappy in mine. He enjoyed his and is still there now and has worked his very very high up and earns a fair wack now. As I say, mine.... I hated. Mine was commission based, there was a basic salary but commission made up a lot of it too. Long story short, I ended up on the sick for 2 week with anxiety. I couldn’t cope with pressures of it, I won’t go into it, but it was awful. In that 2 week off, I was looking for something else but I just didn’t know what I wanted to do, everything I thought ‘oh I’d love to do that’ was tough, because I wasn’t qualified. I massively regretted not doing something better at uni etc and getting myself into a good career doing something I loved. But IMO it’s hard to know what to do and what you love at uni age as you’ve not much experience to go from. Anyway, my DP suggested I take the career I wanted. It was his suggestion, and so basically, I had 2 month off work, figuring things out, finding out how I could do what I wanted to do.... in the end, I decided to go for it. I wanted to do dental nursing in a hospital setting. DO helped me pay for the course, paid our bills etc for that 2 month while I got sorted, then I began a course. I worked as a trainee while studying so could soon pay my way again. I qualified and work as a community dental nurse for the NHS and I love my job. I’m so happy I went for it, and the DP you all seem to dislike helped me massively in pushing me to go for what I wanted and helped pay for it all. We both knew from the start I wouldn’t earn near as well as a sales job, but we didn’t care, it’s about being happy at work IMO. Even if that means earning less. When things were back up and running, we just continued the 50/50 split. Looking back, maybe we should have spilt it differently due to earnings... but the convo never came up, I didn’t mind and felt glad to pay half. Don’t get me wrong, if we went out for food or whatever, a lot of the time DP paid as he knew I had a lot less than him. But that all worked for us. He’s not selfish with his money in any way. If I ever turned down something with friends because I was a bit short that month, he would tell me to go and he’ll pay etc... he’s not a bad person. And I’ve never took advantage of that but have always appreciated it.

We aren’t married, and I see your concerns over that, however, we have discussed marriage in the past and I know we would both love to marry, but right now we can’t afford to, and we don’t want to just nip off to the registry office, we want a special day, as most do and most have. While working in the sales job together, we started saving. Cos we were earning a lot. And we were saving to buy a house. That was our plan. It was delayed slightly by having to pay for my course, and then him pay bills for those couple of months, then me having a lower wage, but that was ok, cos happiness comes first for us. We also discussed that once we bought a house we would look to get married, and then have children. Id always known I wanted to get married before children, not really for any particular reason other than that’s what I wanted to do. We finally bought a house 2 years ago... then that year, we booked 3 holidays together. Because we wanted to. And because we had saved for so long, we had BOTH cut back on everything, holidays, nights out etc. So we felt proud we had done it finally and thought we deserved a break. The first holiday we booked, we payed half each. The second holiday was a trip to NYC over my birthday, which he suprised me with and payed for himself. Then 3rd, was a 4 night beach holiday which he saw online and a great price, when we weren’t even looking for another, I had said I don’t think I could afford to do it and so he suggested we book, and I pay whatever I could towards it, and he paid the rest. So that’s what we did. (See he’s not at all a bad guy guys) anyway, because of all the hols... we hadn’t done much with our house, not much needed doing really except the garden, but we wanted our decor and our own stamp on it, so decided that the next year would be focused on doing the house up now we had done all our saving, bought the house, then had some wonderful holidays. This was decided while in NYC and we still had another hol left.... so the ‘doing the house up’ was supposed to be this year. Then we had said after that, we can start thinking about marriage, then babies. However, we then discovered I was pregnant about 4 weeks after NYC! I did have the coil (too much info I know) but it failed me! Anyway, we were both so so happy! We knew it wasn’t part of our plan yet, but we always knew that things don’t always go to plan! So that’s why we aren’t married yet, other things took priority, and I don’t feel as though I want to marry for security etc as some have mentioned. I want to marry because we love each other and want to share that commitment. I know some will bash for that but that’s how I see it. We got as much of the house and garden done while I was pregnant, and the rest is still work in progress, but aren’t things always!? DP still got to do the things he wanted because he earned a lot. And I don’t mind that at all, he’s done a lot for me, he works hard for his money, and he has the right to a life outside of home! I also still did stuff I wanted to even though I earned less, because me and my friends often gather for pamper nights and sit chatting drinking tea etc so it was never costing me a great deal, where as DPs enjoyments do cost more, but so what, he’s entitled to do they if he can afford it.

The house work etc became more my work, when we bought our house. I just kind of took it all on. I’m house proud and wanted it perfect always, so gradually it just became something I did. It was never discussed or anything, but as mentioned before, if I ask DP to do something or whatever, he does. But it’s never often I ask, cos I just crack on and do it and enjoy that. He did a lot of it towards the end of pregnancy cos I was just exhausted, and that was by his choice I didn’t have to ask. And the bills etc remained 50/50, cos that’s how it has always been and had always worked and I never lost out on anything due to earning less and paying the same, because as I said before, if there was something I wanted or needed, he offered to help.

As for those of you concerned if he took off I’d have nothing and no career... I’m not concerned about that. Because A) we are a pretty solid couple and always have been. And B) I’d be fine on my own. My job, I will be looking to go to a different hospital (because it’s too far away, and there are a few very very bitchy women I work with that I cba being around) but I’ll always have that career now. I will always be able to go back into it and could even just work in a practise until a job in the hospital near me comes up. I’m not worried about losing my career. When we bought our house, once saved etc, my parents gave us 15k to go with the money we had saved, so we could put a larger deposit down, it was a nice surprise as I had no idea they were going to do this, they had always intended to apparently but just wanted to know that we were capeable of saving ourselves first also. Anyway, we have a signed document written up by our solicitor, that in short, states that when we sell the house, the first 15k of the sale, comes back to me. And we cane up with that idea together and felt it fair because that 15k cane from my parents, so if we ever did spilt and sell up, it came back. So I’ve got that as a fall back (because my parents don’t ever want it back etc) and currently, we live quite a distance from my parents. But I just think, if we did split up, I’d move in with my mum and dad (not exactly great with DS but they would LOVE to have us) and then sell the house (which is both our names) and then I can restart life from there, my parents would be a great help with childcare as they’ve already said they wish I lived closer so they could help, because their working patterns mean I could work full time and still one of them would be able to have him. And I know I’ve said I want to work part time, but that’s because I don’t want DS with a stranger full time, my parents however aren’t strangers. So I’d be happy working full time while he is in their care. Anyway, I see all your concerns, but like i say, we are pretty solid right now but I know that if things went Pete tong, I’d be fine and I’d make it work. I’m not worried.

Another point some people raise is I say MY DS which I never even thought about when typing, and I feel overly conscious and I’m questioning how I type so I’m not bashed further 😂😂 but upon confiding how I type, I don’t know, I think I say ‘my’ instead of ‘our’ because it me typing. Not the both of us... if that makes sense. I dunno, I just think it’s odd for that to be analysed lol, if I called the doctor for instance for an app for him... I would say ‘hi yes, I just need to make an appointment for my son please’ I wouldn’t say ‘hi, I need to make an app for our son please’ not because I see him as mine and not his.... but because it me doing things talking, not US doing the talking... of that makes sense!? Anyway this point is baffling and I think it’s been waaaaay too over analysed haha.

OP posts:
TLBftm · 13/05/2019 12:40

Ok so hopefully I’ve cleared up some of your concerns and assumptions... I feel like I’m writing a bloody novel here guys 😂 but I’m enjoying my little self haha maybe I should take up writing 🤣🤣 I joke!

Anyway, back to the nitty gritty... The reason I was worried about speaking to DP about this and thought he would object, is because he’s already footing a lot more than normal due to my smp, I obviously can’t contribute in the way I used to. And he was fine with this, he always knew how it was gonna be. I just think he didn’t really realise just how much babies cost etc, and recently he’s made a lot of comments on money ‘Ive spent x amount already this month’ ‘I’m worried about money you know, I’m putting x amount into our joint account as soon as I’m paid and been left with x’ and so on.... so this made me a bit worried to bring it up, I thought oh he’s not gonna like what I’m gonna suggest. And if I thought there was no way it was possible, I wouldn’t have bothered, but fact is, it is possible. I’m sure you’re all assuming by now that we are totally broke each month now but that’s not the case, he’s just used to having so much more (as I mentioned before) he would carry over sooo much money each month and now that carry over is less. But he still carries over. And is still doing the things he wants to do. Again, I just think he didn’t realise just how much babies cost. Which I can’t bash him for, he’s never had one before and obvs didn’t judge it well. Fine.

As I said, I want to extend my maternity leave by 3 month. It’s not like I’m saying I never want to work again. Cos I do. Don’t get me wrong I’d LOVE to want to be a SAHM but IMO, I’d probably end up nuts 😂 it’s good to go back to work. I just want to make sure DS is content and has his needs met first. Then I’d like to work part time until he’s 2. Then full time again. I don’t feel he should be shipped off to someone else this little, I know all babies are different, but I’d rather he was walking at least before in the care of others, he can get about then as I do worry he be just plonked down all day in front of a tv etc, again, I know he might be walking by the time I go back.... but he won’t be far off and I’ll just feel better about it. I don’t want any regrets when it comes to him and I think I’ll always regret shipping him off so young. Then, I wanted to have him with a childminder 3 days a week and with me 2 days, I don’t like the thought of dragging homfrom his bed 5 days a week while so little and being pretty much brought up by someone else. again, just my opinion, we all have them and I respect everyones isn’t always the same, but I feel like, I didn’t bring him into this world to palm off. Then when he’s 2, I want him in nursery, so he has more interaction with other children, and I dunno, I feel nursery is better for him from 2 years and then I will work part time. It’s hard weighing it all up. I want him brought up by a parent, but I also want to be able to give him everything he ever needs comfortably. And you kind of can’t have both can you. So for me, this was my happy medium. Maybe we should have discussed this when pregnant. But we just didn’t. I think I didn’t realise just how fast it goes and I kind of thought we had loads of time for discussing that... and recently, when thinking about all this to myself, like I say, I was worried about approaching it with my DP just because I know he’s already worrying a bit about pennies! So wrongly, I just avoided it a skin as I could. And I hold my hands up, i shouldn’t have. But I did, and can’t change that so I’m not gonna dwell.

Now the convo.... I wonder how many of you skipped my novel to just read this bit hehe (I feel like I’ve explained a lot up there, not because I feel the need to explain myself, but because I feel my DP and some decisions that go on in our life, were wrongly bashed IMO, but some, just because you didn’t know the ins and outs, but now you do so if you still wanna bash that’s fine, your entitled to your opinion now you have all the intelligence haha)
So... me and DP sat down, I asked him first what he wants and thinks should happen come September when my leave ends... in relation to childcare and working hours etc. And he said ‘I don’t really know what’s gonna work cos if it were possible, I’d like for you to not work for a few year and bring him up yourself rather than someone else do it, but it’s hard isn’t it, what do you think’ and I just told him, I’ve come up with a plan that I think will work, but it is going to mean we need more support from him and he’s already worried about money so this will only make it worse, and will have to mean he does his own thing less, but in the long run, its better our son IMO’ he asked me to go over it, I basically explained as above... and he said he just doesn’t see how it will work, so we write everything out, finances etc and earning based on my current job, as it’s pretty much the same across the board for me in my job so when I move jobs, it won’t be that different. Anyway, our calculations showed we can afford to it, bit as I pointed out to him, he won’t afford all the stuff he’s doing this month then for instance. And he was fine. I’ve obviously rand away with myself and made up this scenario that he would not accept my ideas etc but HE then suggested as from now, we both put our earnings into our joint account and share everything. All direct debits come from there and bills mortgage etc... then we have agreed an amount we each take into our own bank, for whatever we chose. I made sure he realises he won’t be able to do all of his luxury’s anymore but won’t miss out entirely, and he’s fine with that. In his own words, money has more important things to go on now, and he’s not bothered about missing a few trips or beers if it means we are looked after and DS is cared for how we think is best. Truth is, we could manage on his wage forever and not live on the breadline, but we don’t want to settle for that (and I want my career) if we can have more, we will, but for now, DS comes first, we are happy with our choice and both agree to it and extra money making will wait a while. I don’t want DP to stop going and enjoying himself, he works hard and is entitled to, it just will be cut down for a while :) and for now, I’ll continue my cleaning and cooking and looking after DS, if that doesn’t work when I’m back at work, I’m confident that DP will chip in happily!

So happy Monday guys, hope you enjoyed the novel 🤣 have a good week whatever you all do (I’ll be catching up on things due the bug) and no, DP didn’t pick those duties up cos he was away at football (commence bash...) 🤣🤣 but idc I love being busy with DS and jobs :)

And thanks all for getting involved and commenting, even the bashy comments, gives me a good read and may even help others who are reading, and tbh, reminds me that I could have it a lot worse, DP is a good egg haha xx

OP posts:
TLBftm · 13/05/2019 12:41

Ps.... I thought I was joking when I referred to this a novel, I only realised its no joke when MN said I couldn’t post more than 15000 characters and I had to break up my post 😂😂 ooosps!

OP posts:
mary1066 · 15/05/2019 18:57

Well, there's a happy ending and I'm so happy for you OP. All the very best to you and your family xxx

TLBftm · 15/05/2019 20:46

Mary1066 - Thanks so much :) we really do have a lovely relationship and I definitely built it up in my head I think... DP has had a bit of shock money wise since DS came along but we all misjudge things sometimes don’t we :) have a lovely evening xx

OP posts:
mary1066 · 17/05/2019 22:38

Very happy for you and you're very welcome, and thank you.

lifetothefull · 17/05/2019 23:39

What do men think is going to happen? Honestly! He should really have seen this coming. People who are saying YABU for springing it on him. It's hardly a surprise. Woman gives birth to baby.woman wants to be the one to care for her own baby. It's time for him to step up and take some responsibility.

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