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AIBU to think that Leave voters who complain about a lack of democracy are hypocrites?

435 replies

KennDodd · 03/04/2019 20:37

Because they completely ignore the proven illegalities around the Leave campaign that would have made void the result had the referendum been binding.

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LittleChristmasMouse · 05/04/2019 21:17

How is it democratic for some countries to have a veto, but not all?

Some countries are more equal than others? Or more deserving of democracy than others?

Eateneasterchocsalready · 05/04/2019 21:17

Glancing back through the thread, chavy old brexiter ... love your name and last posts I've seen I agree with every word.

ChavvyOldBrexiteer · 05/04/2019 21:20

WTO set tariffs, they don't make our laws.
Really if you think the WTO is undemocratic, check out the EU!

Eateneasterchocsalready · 05/04/2019 21:21

Little mouse, apparently UK is worth something like 16 smaller countries in terms of economics

LittleChristmasMouse · 05/04/2019 21:24

So the more you are worth the more democracy you can have? Wow

ChavvyOldBrexiteer · 05/04/2019 21:25

@eateneasterchocsalready; thank you very much.
I struggle with these smug, sanctimonious, Remoanery comments and there was nothing for it but to BURST out of my Leave closet.

I think they have all been listening to too many James O'Brien podcasts 😱.

I'm glad you like my username. My real name is Cindy Chavtastic so I thought it close enough.

TalkinPaece · 05/04/2019 21:27

Littlemouse
How is it democratic for some countries to have a veto, but not all?
Which countries do not?

chavvy
Really if you think the WTO is undemocratic, check out the EU!
When are the WTO elections? Who is my local candidate?

Eateneasterchocsalready · 05/04/2019 21:28

Grin I just dived Into the thread without ploughing through. I'm going to read back now.

Many leavers are waiting to burst out of all sorts of places 😂😂 the BBC, schools , universities... corner shops... and chip shops

Alsohuman · 05/04/2019 21:29

@Eaten I'm a vile excuse for a human being who merely states facts that somehow get deleted after you've reported them. Nice work. I can't take anyone seriously who references that fine writer, the Australian 1960s singer, Frank Ifield, well know for his political astuteness.

Windowsareforcheaters · 05/04/2019 21:29

We elect MEPs to the European Parliament, who do we elect to the WTO?

The WTO set tariffs that we have to implement, its all legal. These are laws. Who do we elect on the WTO who set these tariffs?

Rufusthebewilderedreindeer · 05/04/2019 21:33

windows

chavvy has been around for a while under many name changes

They just rant and say rude things about people who voted remain...including lambasting them for being rude to people who voted leave

Which is their prerogative...its good to have a rant now and then

ChavvyOldBrexiteer · 05/04/2019 21:35

@talkinpaiece; if you really want to find out about the WTO I suggest you Google it and don't make silly comments on Mumsnet about something you know nothing about.

I must get on and feed the dogs @Bichons For Brexit.

Interestingly, did you know that all dogs voted Leave? Yet another fact you won't find reported on the BBC.

PortiaCastis · 05/04/2019 21:37

WTO is run by a Brazilian and 700 staff hmm how is that democratic as I didn't get to vote for any of them

TalkinPaece · 05/04/2019 21:39

chavvy
I have read much of the WTO website - no sign of democracy

ridgebacks like bichon snacks
but cats know that open doors are often traps to the wrong side

Windowsareforcheaters · 05/04/2019 21:52

WTO elections?

Are they soon?

CatsinSpace · 05/04/2019 21:53

I nominate chavvy for best posts on here.

Excellent stuff 👏

funnelfanjo · 05/04/2019 22:16

@Clavinova
What do you mean by UK direct jobs?
220 people have lost their jobs directly as a consequence of EMA relocation. The number of indirect jobs lost isn’t measured (eg cleaners, security, canteen staff, receptionist)

I see that the MHRA are currently advertising for a new Chief Executive Officer based in London - salary £150,000 pa
Not very much for a CEO of a national scale organisation of 1200 people, but that’s civil service for you. You don’t do it for the remuneration.

TalkinPaece · 05/04/2019 22:19

@funnelfanjo
please do not play into clavinovas hand
she works for a university, she is very bright, she is very stubborn, she is not reading your comments before doing her C&P
you need to play the gaps to find out what she actually believes

DailyMailSucksWails · 05/04/2019 22:20

The best thing about WTO rules is that... there may not be any, soon. The whole enterprise is in crisis. What's better (worse) than escaping EU trade rules? How about No Rules at all!

AIBU to think that Leave voters who complain about a lack of democracy are hypocrites?
ChavvyOldBrexiteer · 05/04/2019 22:22

Thank you @cats.
I am now trying to stuff myself back in the Leave closet before I implode.

BTW, the BBC report that most cats voted Remain; I am so fed up of hearing from @FelinesFurEU but this is probably just more leftist propaganda.

Caucasianchalkcircles · 05/04/2019 22:30

Why the hatred towards left wing views ? Always used as an insult by leavers
Hmm

Eateneasterchocsalready · 05/04/2019 22:33

Frank ifield ...is the brexit guru. ..he sits in cave opposite the sea, he plays digeredoo and harness old energy to lead us to new places.

He says vote leave... I vote leave. He has quite the cult following.many leavers voted leave because he told us to.

ChavvyOldBrexiteer · 05/04/2019 22:39

You are quite right.

Far more leftists and Labour constituencies voted Leave.

I suppose it's the bien pensants who think they are lefties but deep down are quite right wing and thus dismissive of the political opinions of the chavtastic, Brexit-voting classes.

Or perhaps this is not a 'wing' issue at all and just boils down to whether one is a ponce or not a ponce.

CatsinSpace · 05/04/2019 22:41

😂 Made me laugh, Easter.

TalkinPaece · 05/04/2019 22:42

Chavvy
how many posts has Lynton paid you to do?