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To think my marriage is affair proof?

538 replies

PinaColada66 · 28/03/2019 22:55

My DH is a lovely, lovely man. He believes passionately that family is important and the centre of everything and he’s very anti cheating.

However, he has a relatively new female friend who he’s clearly very taken with. They get along like a house on fire and if he was single I think he would definitely want to be with her. I’ve met her several times and she’s very nice. I see why he likes her so much.

So my question is, because I know how strongly he feels about ‘family’, can I feel safe that he’s not going to cheat on me with her?? Is any man affair proof? What can I do to keep our marriage ‘safe’?

OP posts:
CassandraAttheWedding · 03/04/2019 09:26

Sorry OP about all the off-topics. We are actually concerned for you, I fear no news is bad news in your case :( Hope it all somehow turns out for the better for you in the end Flowers

hawaii507 · 03/04/2019 19:14

Hope you are ok OP

Eattothebeat · 03/04/2019 19:44

Thinking of you OP - hope you're doing ok x

UnderMajorDomoMinor · 03/04/2019 19:53

Having read through this all, I do think there is a risk that the op is getting wound up by other people’s sad stories. As far as I am see from her updates he hasn’t done anything wrong. He’s been open about her being a friend, op has met her, there’s no evidence that they are meeting up secretly, etc.

I think people are being too quick to damn him. I mean, hasn’t he just said what he would say if they were just friends.

Men and women can be just friends and can have the sort of caring friendship that two women can have.

Also, you don’t stop someone cheating by banning them from seeing people and sneaking around spying on them/their phone.

Graphista · 03/04/2019 21:16

I'm only quoting from op's own posts here

"He talked about her a lot initially" mentionitis

"He goes out of his way to help her with things."

"He gets a bit defensive about her."

"She seems to know a lot about him and the minutiae of his life" which shows he's overshared

"He used to talk about her more in the beginning but not so much now" mentionitis wearing off usually indicates things are getting serious

"He said that he feels sorry for her and wants to help her if he can (she’s having relationship problems)" classic knight/damsel in distress dynamic

"he doesn’t think she’s attracted to him." Odd thing to say rather than reassure op he's not attracted to her

"they would never let their friendship become anything more" again odd thing to say and as per pps suggests the dh and his friend have discussed the possibility

"I think he likes to be needed" he likes having his ego stroked and that's what he's getting from the friend

"he can’t just abandon her." Even though his wife has raised that this friendship is toxic to the marriage

"he’s stormed out." Hardly the most sensible response running away from the issue plus as per pps perfect excuse to get a chance to delete anything incriminating on phone and give friend/OW a heads up

"I haven’t met her husband and she rarely discusses him in front of me." For all op knows they could already be separated and when husband goes over there they're alone together

"My husband came back after about 20 minutes and went straight to bed." Still running away from the issue and not reassuring op

"He’s not prepared to give up his friendship" even though his wife - which is where his loyalty should lie - is pointing out this is a threat to the marriage. Note he didn't even offer to dial back the friendship not even on a temporary basis

"So he smiled, looked up and started listing things like she’s so good, would never hurt anyone, is one of the kindest people he’s ever met, etc." Completely focused on the friend rather than reassuring wife again!

"The look on his face. I’ve only ever seen that look before when he’s looking at our children." That would have been final straw for me to be honest

UnderMajor - frankly you seem to be ignoring the emotional affair aspects too. He IS seeing the friend alone/without wife and he is confiding in and supporting the friend to the detriment of the marriage and refusing to compromise on that at all.

I think also these days a lot of people who are innocent but accused of cheating would voluntarily show their phone records etc. He seems to me (and others) to have gone out of his way to prevent that and to try and prevent the op from even asking about the friendship UNLESS it's in such a way as allows him to speak about the friend in such a way as to demonstrate the pedestal he's put her on.

No you can't stop someone who fully intends to have an affair from doing so, but I do believe it's possible to prevent one where they're unaware or in denial that they're overstepping boundaries.

AryaStarkWolf · 04/04/2019 10:40

Hope you're ok OP :(

SchoolOfLife2 · 11/04/2019 08:03

There was a thread somewhere about a woman on Mumsnet having a crush outside of marriage but she was dedicated to her marriage.. she opened up to her DH and with time Shen managed to get her head out of her backside...

She then admitted she felt this way because she wasn’t getting enough attention from her DH.

It was all nice to read from a first person perspective.

If your DH thought he was affair proof, he might’ve not developed those techniques of how to get out of wrong crushes and how to understand himself when he is in one.

Might be worth finding such thread and letting him read it. Indirectly hinting.

justarandomtricycle · 11/04/2019 09:02

Think about it from your own perspective.

If you believe (as I do) that it is not appropriate to develop a relationship with an unrelated person of the opposite sex that your spouse is not totally ok with, and you would apply it to yourself, you should not feel ashamed of saying so.

I'm not talking about abusive situations here, but in a normal marriage the "moral argument" you shouldn't state that you expect appropriate behaviour because it will limit your spouse being jack/jill the lad - and the entitled mindset it creates - are two of the many reasons we have such high divorce rates, when this sort of thing could be nipped in the bud while it's a non-issue.

If you don't want limits on your ability to hang out with cool members of the opposite sex, marry someone who has the same attitude to you about these things, or you know don't get married.

Nip it in the bud.

justarandomtricycle · 11/04/2019 09:02

as you, not to you

headinhands · 11/04/2019 11:16

I don't think anyone is affair proof. I don't own my husband's loyalty. I hope he doesn't cheat, I hope I never cheat on him. I don't think I could because the thought of doing that to 'us' makes me feel sick. Even if he said he felt the same you never can be certain.

FactsOfLife · 11/04/2019 11:29

Every human being has the ability to make a choice.
I am very anti cheating as I know how it feels. I would chose never to cheat.
So yes it can be safe but both parties have to have that view. 🤷🏼‍♀️
I'd tell your dh your uncomfortable with it and see how he reacts.

SlaaartyBaaardFaaast · 14/04/2019 20:36

@PinaColada66 I am concerned for you.
Are you okay? xx

DisappearingGirl · 12/06/2019 14:57

I've thought about you since this thread OP, just wondering how you are doing. No need to reply unless you want to

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