to ask why are we not rioting?

[CanILeavenowplease]

our political system is in chaos....we have a PM who has lost vote after vote...a useless Opposition....no one seems to know what they're doing and if any thread on here is indicative of anything, there is considerable support for no-deal and considerable support for dropping the matter altogether...why are we not rioting? seriously? I don't understand why we are sitting passively by and watching this shower of shite happen/not happen?

[pootyisabadcat]

Brits are too apathetic to riot.

[Faultymain5]

@OhYouBadBadKitten Hang on a minute, are there actually people on this thread claiming that the reason there weren't riots on Saturday was because the majority were white?

Yes, but I chose to ignore it. I remember 2011, but I also remember 1990.

[theresafoxunderthedecking]

mrpan is that you talking out of your arse again ? mmm, thought so. any actual evidence to back that stereotype up ?

[DolorestheNewt]

OhYouBadBadKitten No, I think the pp suggested that had the march been more racially mixed, then the police presence might have been bigger and the reporting might have been more biased to suggest unrest. Unless I missed a post, I haven't really RTFT completely thoroughly...!

[HowardSpring]

OhYouBadBadKitten

Hang on a minute, are there actually people on this thread claiming that the reason there weren't riots on Saturday was because the majority were white?

Absolutely NOT!!!!!

(No mention of riots - just perception)

No - what I was saying, and what a lot of people have been saying is the exact opposite!
Had it been working class, racially more mixed, lots of young men rather than "nice" families, then the suspicion is that the headlines would have been different and the perception of the march would have been different. And the police repsonse may well have been different.

Sorry if my post was not clear. (This is not just my view - it has been widely discussed elsewhere).

If others feel it was not clear and might be misunderstood I will report and ask for it to be deleted

[Springwalk]

It will come op.

If Brexit is truly screwed over we will see the worst riots our country has ever seen is the considered view of many politicians. The end of democracy could spark a chain reaction.
That is the sole reason why many astute remain MPs support the result, they know we are on very fragile ground. They know that once parliament takes over the next wave will come from the people.

I hope to god it can be prevented. Pandora’s box may not be easy to close.

[DolorestheNewt]

HowardSpring I interpreted your original post as being a commentary on institutionalised racism in the police and press, but I can understand why you might want it deleted if it's open to wider misinterpretation....

[ItsAllGone19]

Because rioting doesn't hurt the people it needs to hurt the elite who keep screwing us over...it hurts the average person already struggling to keep a roof over their heads.

If we riot the only winners will be the wealthy. Everyone else will be worse off!

[theresafoxunderthedecking]

howard i didn't read it as racial, why would you report yourself ? some people will look for offence in anything. the fact that it was seem as mainly whit, middle class[ how would you know ]? families attending is neither here nor there. it wouldn't matter had e.t bought his pals along it's not going to make any difference to the outcome.

[themueslicamel]

I have made a start on civil unrest by chucking a perfectly good piece of kitchen roll in the bin.

[HowardSpring]

Faultymain5 I also remember - and I apologise if my post was misunderstood. As explained - I meant the opposite.

And it is important to take into account wiggleybeezer's post about who voted for what. The Remain v Leave stereotype is not as clear as some like to think. That is what I meant about the assumption that the march was representative - it really wasn't. (That is not to dismiss it at all - but it was a small-ish demographic)

[DolorestheNewt]

themueslicamel
You mean you didn't put it in your food composting waste? (Was it the really annoying last piece that sticks to the cardboard tube and doesn't behave quite the same way as the other pieces?)

[HowardSpring]

Dolores - yes that is exactly what I meant. I just saw that two posters had misinterpreted.

[theresafoxunderthedecking]

itsallgone the wealthy aren't going to riot, they don't need to as they can buy their wide screen tvs et al. the major reason for rioting is an excuse to loot and cause havoc.

[themueslicamel]

No, it was a good bit from the middle, although it was the recycling bin.

[HowardSpring]

(I was there) Talked to lots of people.

[Footle]

OP, did you notice what's happened in Venezuela? That's what a real riot looks like.

[LeekMunchingSheepShagger]

Because we are British. The French would have started a revolution by now.

[Shinyletsbebadguys]

Riots are pointless and terrifying in the 2011 ones Exdh and I made a dash to a London borough that Exmil and exbil (very severely with a disability ) were as the news was indicating the riots were beginning in her area...noe I may detest the woman but no way in hell were we letting her deal with that. I can tell you it's not considered a positive action when you are barring your disabled brother in laws window because a mile away rioters were smashing windows. The irony is that the EDL came out to "protect " that area...now they are the biggest scum on the earth and were actually looking for a fight but as a deterrent thank God it worked. But having sat in a small bungalow in a particularly precarious location civil unrest is not an answer it's terrifying .

However if you mean why are people bot making more a fuss it's as other pp have said it's because the country is divided as the politicians (who granted have handed this stupendously badly )

It did raise my eyebrows that at the same time the Duggan family are suing which as we all know was the catalyst for 2011...thats interesting timing and makes me marginally more wary

[BigFatGiant]

This is the second thread in so many days trying to incite a riot. Grown ups don’t throw tantrums is your answer.

[Springwalk]

Most people know where this will end, but they carry on pretending it will never happen.
Of course it will, why wouldn’t it? If the government is not governing, democracy has well and truly died what is left?

[Crowdfundingforcake]

Riots are no help. Modern day riots usually consist of troublemakers who have no interest in the ideals they are supposedly rioting for, inciting the stupid and thuggish to commit acts of violence, vandalism and theft just for the hell of it and to cause maximum hassle for the police, firefighters and ambulance crew.

[Springwalk]

Angry betrayed grown ups that have lost all hope do incredible things. Particularly ones that have waited forty years to vote.

[theresafoxunderthedecking]

springwalk - a despot republic ??

[1tisILeClerc]

Eventually the penny will drop and leavers will realise that they will never get what they voted for. There will still be immigration, the government will not pour money into revitalising Northern and Western towns and cities and all the rest that was promised. The NHS will slide ever closer to the USA model and the UK gov will make changes to privatise it further.
With UK car manufacturing closing in 3 or 4 years and the contraction of the finance industry, the darling of the Tories the future starts to look pretty bleak. Opening up UK industry (as opposed to those that have their roots in the EU) to 'world market forces' will mean that UK workers will be competing with workers in Bangladesh, the Philippines etc, that will mean pay cuts and probably erosion of workers rights.
This is the definition of what 'leaving' really means.