to ask why are we not rioting?

[CanILeavenowplease]

our political system is in chaos....we have a PM who has lost vote after vote...a useless Opposition....no one seems to know what they're doing and if any thread on here is indicative of anything, there is considerable support for no-deal and considerable support for dropping the matter altogether...why are we not rioting? seriously? I don't understand why we are sitting passively by and watching this shower of shite happen/not happen?

[Sallycinammonbangsthedruminthe]

My worry is that civil unrest will come after the Brexit date passes...if there is still an impasse in Westminster ...I don't know where all this is leading but plans have been made it was suggested for troops to be on standby,,,never a good thing.

[Bluntness100]

Why would we riot? Exactly what purpose does that serve? It's destructive and distracting. We can make our feelings known in other ways, petitions, marches, whatever, but fighting each other in thr streets and destroying stuff is never the answer.

[TwitterQueen1]

There was an identical post on here last week OP, from a French woman I believe, who was wondering the same thing - given the jaune gilets.

I wonder why you think a demonstration of violence and damage against people and properties might achieve a resolution? As others have said, the peaceful demo in London, plus the peaceful go-slows on the motorways are evidence of strong feelings on both sides. We don't need riots.

I'm not suggesting that you're advocating violence btw, just curious about what kind of action you want?

[HowardSpring]

It was very white and middle class. Had it been otherwise we might have seen more police and DM headlines about "rioting". Who knows?

But the white-middle-classness of the "million" and the assumption that that is "what people think" is an indication of the lack of understanding of the whole Brexit question.

It is extremely complex - and whilst we might all be feeling various degrees of horror, despair, frustration etc - we are all feeling it about different things and for different reasons. So no rioting yet, (thankfully).

(Have you ever been caught up in a riot OP? It is not a joke. It is utterly terrifying)

[PositiveDiscipline]

British people are not really that engaged with politics. They are really good at moaning but vey few actually do anything about it.

I was recently involve in something in my town. It was a situation that could have caused a death. Lots of people got riled up about it and angry. In the end I was the ONLY person in the whole town who did something about it and was passionate enough to take it to the papers.

If Worcester Sauce Monster Munch got banned or Eastenders got moved to 11pm there would be riots but Brexit, knife crime, Rotherham...nahhhh.

[theresafoxunderthedecking]

rioting is for morons so if you fit that type then go ahead. it would make you total scum in the eyes of many.
demos and petitions are not the way forward, powers that be aren't swayed by this stuff, they look on the peasants as having a day out with the kids, and as for petitions well...don't get me started, people who are signing those, are they the same people who vote in local elections and try to change things at grass root levels ? i ask that as election turn outs [bar the infamous one] are usually very low as so many people are apathetic.

[RugbyRugby]

It may very well be coming round the corner.

Tensions are high and feelings are strong - but both groups remain hopeful. The Remainers are hopeful of a second referendum and we stay in. The Brexiteers are still hopeful of an actual Brexit.

Come loss of hope; come the riots.

[theresafoxunderthedecking]

positive what happened ?

[Faultymain5]

I think a PP made the point that we are not united enough on what we want.

During the poll tax riots , it was about the public's united disgust with the poll tax. We're not united on what we want. When or if we are, then we might see change.

But I dare say there will be Brexiteers, happy we're out yet frustrated when they realise it doesn't mean what they think it means and Remainers gloating, saying we told you so or that's what you wanted. Still not united.

[DolorestheNewt]

Sallycinammonbangsthedruminthe
I understand your point, and share your anxiety about civil unrest to come, but the level of visible protest by Leavers so far has been fairly low-level. I went past a protest a few Saturdays ago at Parliament Square and it can't have been more than a hundred people. Later that afternoon, about 25 of them marched up Whitehall, max. It was truly pitiful, yet it had clearly been intended to be something more major, with placards, megaphones for public speaking etc.
If the Brexit date comes and goes (I understand it now to be April 12 as TM has still not got a vote through), I think Remainers will still live in hope that we might get Ref2 or PV or whatever. Leavers just aren't showing any signs of sufficient ability to coordinate and demonstrate, possibly because of the general support for Remain in London, possibly because the spirit of "Leave" is not really very collaborative, more isolationist and inward looking (open to argument, of course!).

[BringMeTea]

It is a very good question OP. Something big needs to happen as our system of governance no longer works. DH and I were musing on how we'd feel about a Thai-style military coup last night. Only half joking. Sucks.

[PositiveDiscipline]

What? What happened in my town or to make me so bitter about the UK?

[S1naidSucks]

Shall we start in your street, OP? Actually that goes for anyone that can’t understand why we’re not rioting? Why not start the riots outside your own front door? Or do you ask the question in the expectation that the riots happen nowhere near you, so therefore your home, property and family are safe?

I often wonder if those asking the questions are similar to the posters that would judge the rioters in NI, as being ‘different’ than the rest of the UK. If the troubles reignite in NI, are you going to say, “well that’s understandable, considering what the British government has done”, or are you going to judge them harshly?

Riot, if you want, but make sure your car is the first one to be burned.

[zoellafortitude]

Because it would achieve nothing and in fact do more harm than good.

[HarrySnotter]

Yes, rioting is always the best course of action ...

[theresafoxunderthedecking]

positive what happened in your town ?

[Lifeover]

I think at the moment everyone has a hope that their preferred choice will win through - thats been mays MO for the past 3years. Now it’s decision time lots of people will be disappointed as they have been led to believe they have had a chance to get their way. In honesty I think the only way there will be riots is if article 50 was revoked. The only fact amongst these plethora of “facts” is that the majority of people who voted in the referendum voted to leave the EU.

[OhYouBadBadKitten]

Hang on a minute, are there actually people on this thread claiming that the reason there weren't riots on Saturday was because the majority were white?
Fucking hell.

[PregnantSea]

Why would we riot? What would be the aim?

I suppose if you want a new telly it's a good excuse to steal one, but I don't see any other benefit to it.

[BernardsarenotalwaysSaints]

Because we’re British & it’s hard to riot when you’re forming an orderly queue

And because it won’t achieve anything...

[mrsstephens89]

I think there will be rioting eventually especially if the leave decision is overturned.
But that would be awful for our country. The riots in 2011 were horrible- so many businesses damaged and burned to the ground and a lot of people were frightened especially in the inner city. The scale of damage and the repair bill was through the roof.
That is why nobody is rioting OP and it would be idiotic to be frustrated that Brexit hasn’t resulted in such awful events.

[OhYouBadBadKitten]

I will be very relieved and happy to be told that I've got the wrong end of the stick.

[AuchAyeTheNo]

Because generally the public don’t care enough.

We grumble and moan, sign online petitions and at a push have a ‘peaceful’ demonstration.

[MrPan]

The latent, actual and threats of violence and rioting is a Leaver thing, stoked by Leaver 'leaders'.......and as such represent the 'gammon' element. These are largely ugly, over-weight, 'challenged' men who are angry about other parts of their lives, and couldn't actually organise a riot, even if shown diagrams in a Penguin "How To.." book.

[wigglybeezer]

The "whiteness" of the march could in part be because some ethnic minorities are rather lukewarm about the remain cause, quite a few electoral wards with British South Asian majorities voted leave even in London.