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Original poster

To think the only viable Brexit option now is to revoke A50

317 replies

Bearbehind · 21/03/2019 06:34

Theresa Mays speech last night was a disgrace and will only have hardened MP’s positions - there’s no way her WA will get voted through, even if another vote is allowed.

There is no appetite for No Deal from anyone who understands its consequences so that just leaves revoke.

TM has been the master of saying one thing and doing the complete opposite.

I’m now convinced she’s going to revoke and resign.

Or is that just wishful thinking?

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PigeonofDoom · 21/03/2019 16:10

That makes me sound like the pm Grin In reality, I mean sorting out the brexit arrangements in my workplace (public sector).

Walkingdeadfangirl · 21/03/2019 16:16

The WA wont pass and we therefore leave next Friday in accordance with the law and as voted for by most MPs. Life will carry on as normal.

Iflyaway · 21/03/2019 16:19

But all those billionaires won’t want their tax dealing looked at.

Well exactly.

Here's an interesting piece about the new tax legislation in the EU.

www.theneweuropean.co.uk/top-stories/is-the-anti-tax-avoidance-directive-the-reason-the-rich-want-out-of-eu-1-5669763

badlydrawnperson · 21/03/2019 16:20

@PigeonofDoom
I agree about the EU vs our parliament - whilst the EU has been organised our side is being run by a gang of braying over-priveliged gits from a televised fucking museum.

It isn NOT the fault of leave voters though and it's fucking unreasonable to try and blame people for expressing an opinion when asked - it is entirely the fault of the Tories under Cameron that we are in this pile of wank.

Iflyaway · 21/03/2019 16:23

The UK Government would have to share details on tax havens on
1st April 2019 for the first time. Coincidentally, Britain plans to leave
the EU on 11pm Friday 29th March 2019.

Original poster
Bearbehind · 21/03/2019 16:24

Life will carry on as normal.

Which is exactly our problem.

Only the most arrogant truly believe that to be true.

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KennDodd · 21/03/2019 16:27

I agree. We have no good options, revoke is just the least worst.

PigeonofDoom · 21/03/2019 16:31

Sorry, but if you voted for this pile of shite you do bear some responsibility. Not as much as Cameron, for sure, but some. This abrogation of responsibility seems to be part of modern life and it gets my goat tbh. If you do something wrong, you own up to it, sort it, apologise and move on. If no-one admits responsibility then you end up in a quagmire with no one wanting to fix anything lest they have to own up to making a mistake. As we see right now in Parliament.....

thetemptationofchocolate · 21/03/2019 16:35

DH & I are poles apart politically. I am fairly sure he voted leave, I know he voted Tory at the last election. Now he is starting to complain about the mess we're in - but it's what he voted for. He can't see the connection...
Interesting times, in our house.

PigeonofDoom · 21/03/2019 16:44

Also, it wasn’t expressing an opinion, it was a vote! With far reaching consequences that were explained (albeit not very well) at the time.

Louisianna16 · 21/03/2019 16:57

The UK Government would have to share details on tax havens on
1st April 2019 for the first time. Coincidentally, Britain plans to leave
the EU on 11pm Friday 29th March 2019

Iflyaway It is a coincidence, if you are implying otherwise.

Mar 29 is the date exactly 2 yrs after Article 50 - the process of leaving EU - was triggered.
Its part of A50 .

Original poster
Bearbehind · 21/03/2019 17:25

I am fairly sure he voted leave

Is that actually for real?

I literally can’t comprehend a life where you don’t know for sure how your life partner voted in this.

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badlydrawnperson · 21/03/2019 17:43

Sorry, but if you voted for this pile of shite you do bear some responsibility. But nobody did.

badlydrawnperson · 21/03/2019 17:46

@PigeonofDoom. The current mess isn't due to people not taking responsibility, it is due to the incompatible nature of referendums vs our representative democracy and the fact that most MPs support remain.

AutumnCrow · 21/03/2019 17:51

whilst the EU has been organised our side is being run by a gang of braying over-priveliged gits from a televised fucking museum

Grin - and yet simultaneously horribly fucking tragic

PigeonofDoom · 21/03/2019 18:21

If you voted leave you voted for something with no plan, no consensus, lead by a weak government with a small majority. So yeah, you did vote for this. As for it being the fault of remain mps Hmm The red lines which have scuppered brexit, were drawn up to appease Brexiteers. Who then voted against the deal anyway!

badlydrawnperson · 21/03/2019 20:12

What were we supposed to do? Abstain? Vote for something we didn’t believe in? I didn’t vote for the Cameron government in the first place but they led us into this. I have a view on the EU and I voted in accordance with fhat - but no one could have known how things would unfold.

BertrandRussell · 21/03/2019 20:31

“ I have a view on the EU and I voted in accordance with fhat - but no one could have known how things would unfold.”

But that means you must have voted for an unknown.

PigeonofDoom · 21/03/2019 20:32

Well then why did you vote for it then? Did you genuinely look at Johnson, farage and the Cameron government and think, yep, they’ll do a great job?
I just don’t care tbh. Tell yourself what you like, the country’s fucked now anyway. I just need to bury myself in trying to sort out my bit of it.

ChardonnaysPrettySister · 21/03/2019 20:35

People were told how things would unfold, but it was all dismissed as
"Project Fear" and "expert opinion". Experts, who needs experts?

DonaldTwain · 21/03/2019 20:35

If you voted for Brexit of course you voted for this. The difficulties and perils were all discussed at length - and are obvious to anyone of normal intelligence with a working knowledge of how our legal and political system works.
So yes, you voted for this, and it is all your fault, and I esteem you accordingly.

DonaldTwain · 21/03/2019 20:38

“ no one could have known how things would unfold.” Funny that, I sat round a table in my office prior to the referendum with people achieving broad consensus that yes, if we voted Brexit, more or less this sort of mess would result.
But then, we brought our brains with us to the meeting. Pity the 17.2 fucking million or whatever it is didn’t do same.

time4chocolate · 21/03/2019 22:06

But then, we brought our brains with us to the meeting. Pity the 17.2 fucking million or whatever it is didn’t do same

Did you leave your brain in said meeting I wonder?

BertrandRussell · 21/03/2019 22:20

So-leavers. How did you think it would be different?

Gth1234 · 21/03/2019 22:22

The viable alternative is to leave the EU on 29th March.