To ask at what age you think men become invisible to women

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And do you think it's because they get fat? Lose their hair? Start wearing frumpy clothes? Get wrinkly and jowly?

Do they feel insecure about this invisibility? Or heave a sigh of relief that Julie in Accounts is no longer making eyes at them?

There's a name for some of the women on this thread.

So @TeeJay1970 what 'name' is that then? Don't keep us ladies in suspense with your passive aggressive snide veiled insults! DO tell us exactly what you mean!

Men are so much more attractive in their 30s, 40s, 50s.
Nah

Case closed @americandream!

There's a name for some of the women on this thread

Females?

@IcedPurple

You honestly think your average man in his 50s is more physically attractive than he was in his 20s?

This. ^ Whilst many men are still decent and attractive in their 30's - and up to 43/44ish, that's pretty much where it ends IMO. No way are most men in their 50's (and older) attractive to most women under 35, even though many men 50 and over think they've still 'got it' with the ladies - even those who are half their age!

Thank you for this thread

No way are most men in their 50's (and older) attractive to most women under 35, even though many men 50 and over think they've still 'got it' with the ladies - even those who are half their age!

Honestly, I'm nearly 50 and very rarely see a man in his 50s who I fancy. Almost never, actually. Most of the men I find physically attractive are a good 10 years my junior. There were a couple of blokes at work who I used to fancy, but since they hit their mid 40s their looks are definitely on the slide. I wish this weren't the case but sadly it is.

Note I'm not suggesting that I 'deserve' hot young men - I'm not the female equivalent of the deluded middle aged man who thinks he's still got it (if he ever had). Just that if we're being objective and judging purely on looks, younger men are hotter. Generally.

I've never been visible.

All those things that women seem to like, I lack those.
I've been labelled a loser as a social housing tenant too, so that's helped.
But hey ho, I've never been one to give a shit anyway so I'll happily turn 40 and continue never being visible and carry on lacking charm, looks, humour and money.

Women complain about so manythings being sexist yet so many of us really would sleep with a man if he had money but would walk past the same guy if he was a bin man.*

Nah, I couldn't. I have slept with very few people because a winning personality or a huge amount of cash just wasn't enough. I needed the fanny gallops, and very few people who gave me the fanny gallops ever looked at me twice- sigh.

Anytime I see a Stormy or a Melania though I think, you deserve every bit of cash you get, it's like cleaning sewers or something, no body wants that job.

You honestly think your average man in his 50s is more physically attractive than he was in his 20s?

I said men were more attractive (to me) in their 30s, 40s, 50s. I prefer a nice worn in look to a baby face personally. Give me a Jason Fox, Ant Middleton, Jake Gyllenhaal, Denzel Washington, Hugh Jackman or Josh Brolin over a Manon their 20s any day!

Man in* their 20s.

My dad is 86. Women still fancy him.

@PlasticPatty

My dad is 86. Women OVER 80 still fancy him.

Fixed that for you.

These 2 are men aged 86. If you think any woman under 75-80 y.o. would fancy a man aged 86, you're deluded, or pulling our leg.

It annoys me when I hear blokes moaning that their wives no longer want sex without looking at the obvious reasons for this - ie they probably don’t feel the same level of sexual attraction to a man that no longer gets any excercise, eats crap, drinks too much too often, and who makes minimal effort in with grooming and dress sense.

Although when it comes to grooming, I’m not sure that hair colour to hide grey is a good look. Men that do this remind me of Bond villains.

Draven I've noticed your post so at least your words are visible.

I don't believe you lack charm, looks, humour and money.

Okay, maybe money!

I wish their free range moobs were invisible too.

Well, I’m 54 and although dh is not actually invisible yet, he is getting fairly transparent now. When naked, it can be quite difficult to keep track of him!😀

I think men pretty much think they are hot regardless of age and looks. As a middle aged woman I am becoming invisible to men, which is liberating. I no longer find men enthralling either, whatever the age. The only time I do feel, ooh he's attractive, it tends to be somebody in their 30s and I am not interested in them, just registering their attractiveness. The only older guy I can think of is Michel Roux Jnr.

It's amusing to see guys my age thinking they are in with a chance of younger women. I see it at work. Very ordinary men, not over endowed with looks or personality, trying to get the attention of women in their 20s and early 30s.

Men ? What are these men of which you speak?

There's a beautiful, strong amazing woman who I lust after admire from afar but she has no idea.

I love threads like this one. It shows the ridiculous social pressures upon women. The sad thing is often we don’t even realise it is happening.

Can you imagine men in large groups fretting over how they’ve become invisible to men? No? Me neither. Why then do larger numbers of women worry about this?

I am 34 and married. For some reason which I cannot explain myself I have total crush on my daughter's teacher (who is in his 50s). I do not understand it and I have never ever known myself to have crushes! He isn't conventionally attractive (think grey fleece and beige slacks) but there's something about him!

Age is but one factor. For me it’s humour. Kindness. Conversation.

You either have these qualities or you don’t!

*invisible to women.

a dithery Alan Bennett/David Hockney lookalike.

I dunno, sounds quite cute to me.

When they have children.