To ask at what age you think men become invisible to women

[EnlightenmentwasaPassingPhase]

And do you think it's because they get fat? Lose their hair? Start wearing frumpy clothes? Get wrinkly and jowly?

Do they feel insecure about this invisibility? Or heave a sigh of relief that Julie in Accounts is no longer making eyes at them?

Disgrace

@Mabellavender

Yup. Said much the same thing above.

In my late 40s and see tons of women my age and older who are attractive, well-groomed and clearly take pride in their appearance. I have a hard time remembering when I could say the same thing about any of the men my age.

The whole idea that 'men age like a fine wine' is just male arrogance.

Why hasn't George Clooney had botox in his crows' feet.
He's 17 years older than his stunning wife. She's always dressed up to the nines but he wanders around dressed like a dad.
And he is a dad - he became a father of twins at 56 FFS!

I’d say they become invisible when they stop taking care of themselves and lose that twinkle in their eye. No particular age I dont think but as a general rule, it all begins to slide after forty in my experience.

I agree with others who've said they know far more attractive older women than men.

Why hasn't George Clooney had botox in his crows' feet

A very good question.

You could sow potatoes in those wrinkles.

Definitely needs to get a bit of discreet work done if he wants to keep the young ladies interested in him instead of hot young pieces like Aidan Turner or Chris Hemsworth. What a tough choice eh?

Never invisible; as long as they have a smile, a twinkle in their eyes and a sense of humour, I notice. I might not be attracted to them but it's not because they're older. As I age, I'm less critical. Less judgmental. I'd like to think men are equally as open-minded but I guess it depends on the person.

Depends how much money they have got. If they’re skint; 35. If they’re a billionaire; never.

Ah, George Clooney! I'd have him on toast, crow's feet and all. Don't listen to them, George; no botox. Nothing looks worse than trying too hard.

The level of sexism here is awful.

Women complain about so manythings being sexist yet so many of us really would sleep with a man if he had money but would walk past the same guy if he was a bin man.

Don't listen to them, George; no botox. Nothing looks worse than trying too hard.

Like shutting down the city of Venice for your tacky Kardashian wedding to a woman who never met a camera she didn't love?

There's a name for some of the women on this thread.

so many of us really would sleep with a man if he had money but would walk past the same guy if he was a bin man.

Speak for yourself. And yourself only. Please.

And I'm not sure you're really getting the whole point of this thread.....

I'm very partial to a silver fox myself.
My DP likes to remind us (frequently) that was "rear of the year" in his office sometime in the mid 80's-have to say he's still got a pert tush but I don't tell him that 😂

The level of sexism here is awful

I know. The poor men.

My own husband became invisible when DD was born 6 months ago. I keep hearing a voice in my house hinting at sex but I'm doing a bloody good job of ignoring it

I don't follow the tabloids. I've had a crush on George since I saw him on ER. I know about his remarriage and twins but that's it.

I'd like to think men are equally as open-minded I don't think they are!

As the saying goes, men should be like money. When they get to 40 you should be able to swap them for two 20s. They’re just not relevant when they reach middle age and lose that “freshness”.

About this stage of life

Ladies, get your men to subscribe to manwhohasitall’s twitter feed. He helps the poor dears feel empowered to improve themselves.

twitter.com/manwhohasitall/status/1106132903220707328?s=09

I've never found any man over the age of 30 attractive. And that includes Johnny Depp.

Gasp. Men are so much more attractive in their 30s, 40s, 50s.

As the saying goes, men should be like money. When they get to 40 you should be able to swap them for two 20s. They’re just not relevant when they reach middle age and lose that “freshness”.

Kind of reminds me of that scene in "Mad Men" where Roger and Don are at a bar and Roger says something about how quickly women lose the bloom of youth, or words to that effect. He then notices two young women who keep glancing over at them. Then he walks past them and there's no reaction. A few seconds later, the 10 years younger and much fitter Don does the same, and the women stare and gigle. The look on his face is priceless.

Like I say, so many men think ageing simply doesn't apply to them.

Gasp. Men are so much more attractive in their 30s, 40s, 50s.

You honestly think your average man in his 50s is more physically attractive than he was in his 20s?

I don't think any woman has thought about me in that way (including my estranged wife).

I am not the type women would have fantasies about or would find sexually attractive, i don't think I've ever seen anyone give me 'that look', or any interaction i could regard as flirtatious or signalled any attraction.

i think they are likely to regard me as a tame asexual type. Unless there's someone out there who is tragically pining away for a dithery Alan Bennett/David Hockney lookalike.

As a result i have a lot of platonic female friends, which is lovely and all, but sometimes i wish i had whatever that elusive thing is that makes womem see men as a potential date or failing that being 6 ft, chiselled of jaw and built like a brick shit house might help.