To ask at what age you think men become invisible to women

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And do you think it's because they get fat? Lose their hair? Start wearing frumpy clothes? Get wrinkly and jowly?

Do they feel insecure about this invisibility? Or heave a sigh of relief that Julie in Accounts is no longer making eyes at them?

@Rixera

Being a sci-fi fan, I thought you might have!

"A dish of lime-vanilla ice..."

And he can't remember the last time a woman urged him to "cheer up, love - it'll never happen"

Does he wistfully look at old photos of himself and think about what a hottie he used to be? Now, I'll bet he can hardly stand to look at his craggy visage in the bathroom mirror. Has he considered Botox? Women like a fresh faced guy, so maybe the ladies down the pub will give him the eye again if he gets a bit of discreet nip and tuck?

If my DH told me was ‘disappointed’ that women didn’t given him the eye when he walked passed them I would be seriously unimpressed, whatever age he is . Do you really take him seriously?

I have to agree, it's not so much the looks fading in men that puts women off as they get older.....

It is - as someone said - the fact that many men (by around 45 - 50 y.o,) become whiny, moaning, ranty, chuntering-under-their-breath, hating the world, 'life fucking hates me' whingebags, who complain constantly about queues, immigrants, money, their job, their work colleagues, their aches and pains and ailments, the NHS, the police, doctors, nurses, dentists, the neighbours, his kids, other peoples kids, the cats, the dog, the bastard who parks his car in front of the house when he doesn't even live in the road, every meal they're given (by the wife OR in a restaurant or car,) the extended family, and of course, the weather.

That's when he's not thinking he's George Clooney or Brad Pitt, that every woman he speaks to fancies him and thinks he's hilarious, no-one at work does the job better than him, and that even women half his age secretly have a crush on him, and think he's a wise and witty silver fox.

I know quite a few many men like this. ^ And I think many other women do too! And I think it's hilarious and ridiculous that it's traditionally women who are supposed to be the 'nagging' ones. I know WAY more moany, naggy, miserable men over 45, than I do moany, naggy, miserable women over 45. And I know a number of long-suffering wives who are putting up with a man like this.

Also as @IcedPurple said, despite the belief that men age better than women; I know many more women over 45 who are attractive and fit and look great, and who really take care of themselves, than I do men over 45 who look great.

And yeah, many of these middle aged men - especially the single ones - are under some bizarre illusion that all women fancy them, and can't understand it when they don't, and think there must be something wrong with the women.

I usually find myself checking for visible signs of injury or disease regardless of age. It's an occupational hazard.

Of course, if they're hot, I notice that first.

@Ragwort

I'm not sure if this thread is intended to be taken seriously....

DH (mid 40's) tells me fairly regularly that he is becoming more attractive every year that passes. Apparently he has many women lusting after him, and I'm lucky to have him. He is certainly walking with a spring in his step these days. It's very sweet.

I think a person who dresses well and styles their hair catches the eye at any age.

I don’t think I find any man older than me attractive. I still catch myself looking at men in their early 20’s (while I am a good 20+ years older). I also don’t find men of any age attractive who don’t ‘look after themselves’, even if that just means being clean and fit-ish.

I don't find many men attractive tbh, even some movie stars Ryan Gosling make me go 'eh? That bloke?' But there never invisible are they? There always there in your face existing- bastards

When they start wearing stupid peak hats

It is - as someone said - the fact that many men (by around 45 - 50 y.o,) become whiny, moaning, ranty, chuntering-under-their-breath, hating the world, 'life fucking hates me' whingebags,

It's andropause. By their mid 40's over a third of men have hypogonadism (low testosterone). From the Mayo Clinic:

Hypogonadism Symptoms

Hypogonadism can also cause mental and emotional changes. As testosterone decreases, some men may experience symptoms similar to those of menopause in women. These may include:

Fatigue
Decreased sex drive
Difficulty concentrating
Hot flashes

Not listed here but also quite common are depression and irritability. This is also known as grumpy old man syndrome. I've seen this first hand with my DH. After he started hormone replacement therapy he was right as rain again, back to his usual sweet self.

are under some bizarre illusion that all women fancy them, and can't understand it when they don't, and think there must be something wrong with the women.

I've been told I must be a lesbian when I made it clear that I had zero interest in some middle aged bloke who was trying it on with me. There's no hormonal cause for delusional thinking.

And yeah, many of these middle aged men - especially the single ones - are under some bizarre illusion that all women fancy them, and can't understand it when they don't, and think there must be something wrong with the women.

I think so many men think ageing is this weird thing which only happens to women. A lot of men are also obsessed with the idea that the only thing women care about in a man is money, so they think that just because a man has a decent salary and owns his own house then young chicks will come flocking. They don't get that women earn their own money these days and anyway, if a young woman were inclined to marry for money, she's going to aim higher than a middle manager from Basildon.

Depends on the man. George Clooney has got better with age!

George Clooney has got better with age!

Each to their own but I disagree. I think he's aged quite badly actually. Could be partly to do with the smugness which positively oozes from him though.

42 is the answer to everything so I'm saying 42.

Ha ha, seconded IcedPurple.

About the age they take up morris dancing - or perhaps that's just wishful thinking.

I'm tickled by this thread but also in .
Are you really a John, PigletJohn?
I had a very different picture of you in my mind, even though I know you're all handy and that.

I am fat and ugly, but still cheerful. Tramadol helps, DGS helps even more, but what really gets me out of bed is curiosity.
Incidentally, I had a frisson from a young woman last year. She told me I had a lovely voice, and for 5 seconds I thought I still had it. "You remind me of when my grandad would read to me". Ah well.

I know this was started as sarcasm but I’m going to answer

I don’t find men over about 40 attractive.

I know there’s famous men who still look good but in real life I dont ever see good looking older me . They all have beer bellies and are receding and wear shit clothes.

I see attractive older women all the time, so I don’t know where this idea that women become invisible and that men age better comes from because it’s not true as far as I can see!

And @JaneJeffer has the answer that finally persuaded my oldmanfriend to go for that coffee

(Boyfriend really doesn't feel appropriate, need a new word)

NAMALT and all but..

Men are a threat to women to all ages therefore they are always visible and present.

I would hazard a guess that if anyone is invisible to the opposite sex then they probably always have been! Some people have sex appeal and some don’t. Not much to do with weight or age, some people just attract attention.

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