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Wtf is wrong with this person. Driving me mad!

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Tempnamech4nge · 17/03/2019 23:05

A (totally platonic) male friend of mine is extremely intense and I'm now realising, controlling. They want to be in touch all of the time, get moody when i dont respond in a timely manner and are always buying gifts for me and my DC. I thank them of course but reiterate that it's not necessary, i have never asked them for a single thing but they insist and buy things anyway. They like to treat us. They are very overly invested in mine and the DCs lives despite us having not seen one another in person in a few years due to a big move and they've never even met my young DC. I feel smothered, it feels like a controlling partner when they are in fact just a friend.

They like to make a big deal of buying things and ask for photos of whatever it is, for instance If it's a toy for the DC they want a big hooray picture and a video of the DC looking thrilled. I oblige and always make a point of thanking them sincerely, even though I don't have the space for more toys (which I have said so on numerous occasions)

Its not all one sided with the generosity. I've leant them money on more occasions than I care to remember over the past few years, partly because I felt indebted to them because of their (unwarrented) generosity. I have always received this money back fwiw.

I'm now beginning to think the whole charade and plying with gifts has been to exert control and manipulation over me, is that paranoid?

Today a gift arrived (some wax melts for my burner) all very thoughtful and kind, but again unnecessary. I had to wait in all day for them to arrive because if I miss a delivery they drone on and on moaning and go in a huff.

I thanked them for the wax melts and continued cooking for me and the DC. They responded to my thank you message asking me to send them a photo of them. I didn't see the message immediately as I was cooking. They then sent a further message, arsy in tone telling me "Don't bother then"

When i did see the message I lost my temper and told them I only had one pair of hands and I'm trying to feed my child. This isnt the first time I've received the short shrift for not being available to respond immediately, so it has worn thin and I finally bit. They then replied with "ok sorry I'll leave you alone"

Completely blown out of proportion and unnecessary and I'm now sat thinking to myself what a chore they have become.

I don't need presents, intrusion, daily messages, my parenting ridiculed. I would rather be left in peace.

I'm sick of being expected to be at their beck and call because they live vicariously through me and the DC. They are so full on they make me anxious. They don't have a big social life or get out much so I'm a big focal point of theirs for social interaction and it's draining me, it almost feels like I'm being bloody groomed.

This isn't a normal dynamic is it?

AIBU and ungrateful?

Are they BU to expect so much from me in terms of my undivided attention.

Whatever this is I've had enough of it but will feel extremely guilty if I suddenly cut them off because of all the gifts they've bought, but that was their aim wasn't it it?

What is all of this about.

Is this personality disorder material?

They're driving me mad.

To reiterate they've never made any romantic passes at me or said anything innapropriate so if this is a "love obsession" they're masquerading it well under the guise of being a friend "who's like family"

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NoooorthonerMum · 17/03/2019 23:09

This isn't normal and you're not being ungrateful. The bleeding in heart in me worries they're lonely and insecure and feel they have to give gifts to keep your attention. Even in that case obviously you shouldn't have to be available to respond 24-7. I do think whatever the cause of their behaviour it's over the limit and you should set boundaries.

Itwouldtakemuchmorethanthis · 17/03/2019 23:11

Just become less available and it will settle into something more normal or go away.

icouldwriteabook · 17/03/2019 23:13

Tell them to piss off and block their number. Stop overthinking that you’re being harsh, they’re literally hounding you

Palace13 · 17/03/2019 23:15

I would stop contact. Trust your instincts. This is weird and making you unhappy so pull the pin

RedHatsDoNotSuitMe · 17/03/2019 23:15

From what you describe, you seem to have all the power in this dynamic, because they seem to need/want you a hell of a lot more than you need/want them.

If this is indeed so, then you're able to define the terms.

It does sound a bit 'groomy' though.

So if it isn't romance or sex, what is it they want from you?

Tempnamech4nge · 17/03/2019 23:16

I too think loneliness plays a big part in this, so I do feel for them. I don't want them to feel obliged to buy us things and have told them this many times. They continue to do so regardless and then I feel further indebted because of the fact they are nice gestures.

As kind as they are, there is another side to their personality that is domineering and manipulative and it's that which doesn't bode well with me.

I'm heavily pregnant and feel quite uneasy about the situation now.

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Vehivle · 17/03/2019 23:17

I'm sure other more capable posters will give better responses. But I didn't want to read and run. Just wanted to say - I think you've answered your own question. You know they are being unreasonable and you are not. If I were you, I'd do a fade. I'd tell them not to buy gifts for the kids or for me anymore because the kids have too many toys as it is - and the gifts they send for you, whilst amazing, are causing you to feel bad because money issues at the moment mean you can't give back and that doesn't feel right to you. When they message asking for pictures, just say that due to money issues you're working lots more and don't always have the time to respond because you're out late or like occupied with the kids.

Or even just say you have a boyfriend now and he gets upset with all the gifts and messaging and so out of respect for him - you have to stop.

Sorry it's crap advice and I know how hard it is to ease someone off when they are behaving as he is. Hopefully someone will give better advice!

SparklySneakers · 17/03/2019 23:17

Creepy. Distance yourself as much as possible.

AtrociousCircumstance · 17/03/2019 23:19

You know this is unhealthy and you’re being manipulated. How long you want to suffer that is up to you.

Tempnamech4nge · 17/03/2019 23:21

They refer to me as a sister and my DC their neice and nephew. I'm %99.9 sure they are not romantically interested in me in an innapropriate way, because if they were then the way they've gone about it doesn't fit the narrative.

I'm not worried about my DC's safety as they've never met and i don't believe this is about gaining access to the DC because they've been this way since before I had my first.

The opinion I've formed is that they are lovely, but controlling and manipulative in general and are using me to fill a void.

I've seen them fall out with people in the past and turn spiteful so I am slightly worried about potential repercussions should I tell them to piss off or call them out on anything.

They don't like to be disagreed with.

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Tempnamech4nge · 17/03/2019 23:22

Lonely* not lovely

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KimchiLaLa · 17/03/2019 23:24

I wouldn't accept any more gifts

HollowTalk · 17/03/2019 23:27

You certainly shouldn't have stayed in for that delivery. It's ridiculous that you lost a day out because of waiting in for wax burners.

I would just tell him that you already have whatever it is he wants to send. It's not a present if you don't want it. It's bullying in a way.

CurlyhairedAssassin · 17/03/2019 23:28

What kind of repercussions are you worried about?

Floralhousecoat · 17/03/2019 23:30

Why do you refer to this friend as they and not as he?
Tell them you're moving then don't forward your 'new' address and block them.

Itwouldtakemuchmorethanthis · 17/03/2019 23:31

I’d just take longer and longer to respond.

Coronapop · 17/03/2019 23:31

You just have to stop:
stop replying to messages
stop thanking for gifts
stop sending photos/videos etc etc
Just because someone asks doesn't mean you have to act. You have reinforced their behaviour by constantly responding.

WatcherintheRye · 17/03/2019 23:32

You can sow the seed of fading the friendship by letting him know now that, with a newborn as well as your older dc, you fear you will soon have little free time for contacting friends on such a regular basis. Suggest that a weekly update will have to suffice. And stop sending the photos of gifts being used on demand - that is weird!

Tempnamech4nge · 17/03/2019 23:34

I'm not %100 sure what potential repercussions I'm worried about, malicious calls to SS perhaps or spreading rumours / badmouthing me to others. Demanding back the cost of everything they've spent on me and the DC. Making a nuisance of themselves.

I have fluctuating MH (diagnosed GAD and I'm just coming out the other side of PND - finally) and they know about all of that including my vulnerabilies. I've seen them behave like a perpetulant child when they've fallen out with somebody previous and don't fancy being on the receiving end of their vitrol.

Perhaps it's my anxiety causing me to catastrophize I just don't feel comfortable with the dynamic any longer but am very aware that they're not the most level headed of individuals.

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wafflyversatile · 17/03/2019 23:35

I'd* reply good or thank fuck.

*I probably wouldn't

You do need to stop complying. Borrowing is probably as much about control as the gifts. It keeps up Contact.

Tempnamech4nge · 17/03/2019 23:37

No particular reason for referring to him as they as opposed to he.

He is male yes.

I think subconsciously I was worried people may assume I've been leading him on in a romantic sense which I absolutely haven't.

Reading this back it reads as so bizarre and not within the remit of a typical platonic friendship between a male and female.

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Maisymoo22 · 17/03/2019 23:38

Do you think he/she would come looking for you if you stopped responding?

GiveMeAllTheGin8 · 17/03/2019 23:40

How long have you known this person ? Is there a reason why they haven’t met your dc?

Itwouldtakemuchmorethanthis · 17/03/2019 23:40

What have you got to lose? It can only get better.

HollowTalk · 17/03/2019 23:40

I think you really need to slow down your replies. You should have days between replies and when he says something (which he will), say that you were busy with DC and your partner. Bring your partner into everything. The fact is this guy isn't geographically close; you could tell him anything.

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