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Wtf is wrong with this person. Driving me mad!

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Tempnamech4nge · 17/03/2019 23:05

A (totally platonic) male friend of mine is extremely intense and I'm now realising, controlling. They want to be in touch all of the time, get moody when i dont respond in a timely manner and are always buying gifts for me and my DC. I thank them of course but reiterate that it's not necessary, i have never asked them for a single thing but they insist and buy things anyway. They like to treat us. They are very overly invested in mine and the DCs lives despite us having not seen one another in person in a few years due to a big move and they've never even met my young DC. I feel smothered, it feels like a controlling partner when they are in fact just a friend.

They like to make a big deal of buying things and ask for photos of whatever it is, for instance If it's a toy for the DC they want a big hooray picture and a video of the DC looking thrilled. I oblige and always make a point of thanking them sincerely, even though I don't have the space for more toys (which I have said so on numerous occasions)

Its not all one sided with the generosity. I've leant them money on more occasions than I care to remember over the past few years, partly because I felt indebted to them because of their (unwarrented) generosity. I have always received this money back fwiw.

I'm now beginning to think the whole charade and plying with gifts has been to exert control and manipulation over me, is that paranoid?

Today a gift arrived (some wax melts for my burner) all very thoughtful and kind, but again unnecessary. I had to wait in all day for them to arrive because if I miss a delivery they drone on and on moaning and go in a huff.

I thanked them for the wax melts and continued cooking for me and the DC. They responded to my thank you message asking me to send them a photo of them. I didn't see the message immediately as I was cooking. They then sent a further message, arsy in tone telling me "Don't bother then"

When i did see the message I lost my temper and told them I only had one pair of hands and I'm trying to feed my child. This isnt the first time I've received the short shrift for not being available to respond immediately, so it has worn thin and I finally bit. They then replied with "ok sorry I'll leave you alone"

Completely blown out of proportion and unnecessary and I'm now sat thinking to myself what a chore they have become.

I don't need presents, intrusion, daily messages, my parenting ridiculed. I would rather be left in peace.

I'm sick of being expected to be at their beck and call because they live vicariously through me and the DC. They are so full on they make me anxious. They don't have a big social life or get out much so I'm a big focal point of theirs for social interaction and it's draining me, it almost feels like I'm being bloody groomed.

This isn't a normal dynamic is it?

AIBU and ungrateful?

Are they BU to expect so much from me in terms of my undivided attention.

Whatever this is I've had enough of it but will feel extremely guilty if I suddenly cut them off because of all the gifts they've bought, but that was their aim wasn't it it?

What is all of this about.

Is this personality disorder material?

They're driving me mad.

To reiterate they've never made any romantic passes at me or said anything innapropriate so if this is a "love obsession" they're masquerading it well under the guise of being a friend "who's like family"

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Tempnamech4nge · 17/03/2019 23:41

I've no concerns about them coming to where I live to find me in person as they're a considerable distance away, but I can definitely foresee them contacting my friends and family if i blocked them which would be a nuisance.

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Ilovemypantry · 17/03/2019 23:41

Is this person male or female? Why do you only refer to him/ her as “they”?

mathanxiety · 17/03/2019 23:42

Send this in a text:

I'm now sat thinking to myself what a chore you have become.

I don't need presents, intrusion, daily messages, my parenting ridiculed. I would rather be left in peace.

I'm sick of being expected to be at your beck and call because you live vicariously through me and the DC. You are so full on you make me anxious. You don't have a big social life or get out much so I'm a big focal point of yours for social interaction and it's draining me, it almost feels like I'm being bloody groomed.

These are your own words with 'you' substituted for 'them'. This is how you feel and it looks to me as if you would lose nothing and gain a lot by ending this friendship.

Tell him the friendship is now officially over and that he is not to contact you again.

Itwouldtakemuchmorethanthis · 17/03/2019 23:42

You don’t have to block them. Just respond slower and don’t send photos etc.

cheesemongery · 17/03/2019 23:42

I've seen them fall out with people in the past and turn spiteful so I am slightly worried about potential repercussions should I tell them to piss off or call them out on anything.

Been there. I just had to ignore/ghost/remove from life and take the consequences. This guy that I had known for 20 years spouted a load of crap about me on facebook. Of course it was hurtful and of course I wanted to retaliate, but I didnt - and I suspect 99% of his 'friends' knew he was spouting bullshit anyway, whilst 1% were oh, wow, she really IS crazy....

Whatever. He is out of my life and I don't give one shit about what anybody thinks - he was verging on psycho!

Get rid. Just block him on all social media, block his calls and messages and return parcels as no longer at this address. He'll get the message.

As for sending pics of your kids to a man who has sent them toys, kids he has never even met... please don't.

Coronapop · 17/03/2019 23:42

If you totally ignore and stop responding any vitriol will probably be short lived. You can't change their behaviour, only the way you react to it. Personally I wouldn't bother with a softly softly approach because this type of individual will soon draw you back into their 'game'. Ceasing all contact is the way to go.

Tempnamech4nge · 17/03/2019 23:44

Ive known them 6 years, I have a toddler and am pregnant. They haven't met the DC because I haven't invited them to visit and have turned down their offers for me to go and visit them.

They've been hankering for an invitation to come and visit but I haven't extended one and don't intend to.

As of tomorrow I'm going to massively reduce the amount I respond.

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cheesemongery · 17/03/2019 23:45

I don't agree with the not blocking. If you don't block you are leaving yourself the anxiety of whatever message may appear next.

Ghost. Do one.

Good luck!

Tempnamech4nge · 17/03/2019 23:46

@Ilovemypantry He is male, sorry.

I explained my reasoning to referring to him as he on the last page. I'm aware people may assume I have been leading him on in a romantic sense as that's what I'd be inclined to think myself if I were somebody else reading this, but I haven't.

I wanted to keep it neutral

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CurlyhairedAssassin · 17/03/2019 23:47

Is the kids’ dad around?

wafflyversatile · 17/03/2019 23:47

Other people probably know what he's like.

You can either tell him upfront, cold turkey, and send a cease and desist if he bothers you or others. Or you can withdraw slowly. Become very dull. Slow replies. don't stay in for deliveries. Short replies. I'm ok. Been busy. Don't ask how he is.

mathanxiety · 17/03/2019 23:49

Any contact after you have stipulated no contact can be met with a non molestation order. Or you can change your number or block him.

But you need to be direct.

This man clearly won't take no for an answer and everything you have said about him marks him out as 'No Way Could Friendship Work' material.

Nervous as you are, it is time to take a firm stand.

If you have a counsellor at the moment, please talk to him or her about establishing boundaries, learning not to share information about yourself, and feeling obliged to be nice/kind/empathetic.

Look up FOG - the fear, obligation and guilt trap that keeps nice people like you bound to narcissists like your friend.

LovingLola · 17/03/2019 23:49

What does your Dp (or dh) think about this ?

Excited101 · 17/03/2019 23:49

Phase them out... nice but vague is how I would play it.

Mombie · 17/03/2019 23:49

This sounds really unhealthy and controlling. I hate this sort of manipulative behaviour especially when it is targeted at somebody who struggles to say no. I would cease contact and stop accepting gifts, just say it is your new ‘policy’, that way you won’t get drawn into anything emotional.

Honeyroar · 17/03/2019 23:51

Could you just massively tone down the replies? Say s quick thanks, if asked for videos or photos say you’re busy or haven’t got time. Leave ages between replies.. Make it boring for him. Kind of phase him out.

I personally wouldn’t block, I’d want to see what he was doing. I’d mention him and how he’s a bit of a weirdo to friends and family now, so they’re forewarned if he tries anything.

bumpertobumper · 17/03/2019 23:52

Frim the way you seem so obligated to maintain the 'friendship ' I thought he must be a long term family friend type.
You have only known him for six years, that isnt long and sounds like it has always been intense.
He is being controlling.

What do you get put of the friendship? He knows a lot about you and your MH - is he a supportive kind friend at times? Or is is a situation where you find yourself opening up about personal stuff more than you are totally comfortable with?

What does your partner think about him? Presuming you have one as pregnant with small child...?

Definitely ease back in contact. If he gets cross that could be good, give you a clean break.
He cant hurt you, except if you carry in as you are as this situation is exacerbating your anxiety.

Tempnamech4nge · 17/03/2019 23:54

My DCs father is around in terms of co-parenting yes, but we aren't together. I haven't spoken to him about how I feel about this person now as it's not really his problem anymore. When we were together he was aware of him as one of my friends and wasn't concerned. He wasn't sending as much stuff at that point.

I fully believe he'd have a word if asked to, but that's likely to provoke a negative response so would be more hassle than it's worth.

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tolerable · 17/03/2019 23:58

hmmm..whats in it for you? do you like this person?do you consider them brotherlysisterly level..or introosif stalkeresk. i have two sisters,see each other anually.most yrs.text alot...id still say...whats with the stroppyness,fkuc off if youre no happy..NOBODY iterrupts dinner.

NameChange992 · 18/03/2019 00:01

You need to stop thanking them for and accepting gifts at the very least. I understand why you do, I was brought up to accept a gift politely but you’re giving them mixed messages and he may think you only say it’s not necessary to be polite but really like receiving the gifts and may be completely oblivious to your true feelings.

The demanding immediate responses is less defensible and more problematic. Though again if this is only the first time you’ve ever stood up for yourself, in general i’d say you should now give him an opportunity to change his behaviour.

However, The fact that you’re worried about the fallout, makes me think you should end contact, that is not a healthy friendship.

Tempnamech4nge · 18/03/2019 00:02

He's been a good friend in terms of providing advice, being there for me after a bereavement and vice versa as I have him. We appeared to have a fair bit in common and shared interests. He has always been 'brotherly' in his demeanour and so I didn't mind him referring to me as "like family" and thought he was fab for the first few years.

I'm going to read up about FOG. It sounds very fitting.

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Tempnamech4nge · 18/03/2019 00:04

I definitely agree I need to distance myself and intend to. Your replies have cemented my suspicions that this isn't a healthy dynamic.

I can't post anything on SM without him 'liking' or commenting it and am sat here wondering whether he'll somehow find and see this post. Not healthy at all.

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AwakeNow · 18/03/2019 00:09

This candle melt thing is the perfect opportunity to say, they are you do not want them sending gifts, and please respect your wishes.
Then do not acept anything else they send.

Don't worry if they kick off over that. They will get over it, or not, their choice.

gilchrist168 · 18/03/2019 00:13

Trust your feelings.
You have been a good friend to this man, you have not led him on, don't even think that.
This is all about him, ease him out. Look after yourself, he is not bringing any joy to your life.Flowers

MIA12 · 18/03/2019 00:21

Don’t doubt your gut instinct or judgement. I had a similar situation with a neighbour giving unwanted attention and gifts and the only thing that worked in the end was being blunt and asking him to leave me alone. The hints and avoiding texts/ calls didn’t make any difference.