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MIL ridiculous to be upset about this??

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newnamepetal · 13/03/2019 18:23

I've posted about my MIL before under an old name, and this is a bit of a WWYD / AIBU.

For context, DH is 29 and has lived independently since the age of 18 (university) after which he never went home (to a small quiet town) and instead moved to a big city with his job, which is about 2.5 hours away from mil and where we both live. We / he visits mil every few weeks and she comes to us every few months.

Mil has 7 children (!) of which DH is the eldest. The others (nearly all adults, some teens) all live with her (no fil in the picture). She has always had trouble dealing with DH being independent and not being her baby anymore. It's obvious that her identity is all about motherhood and unfortunately she doesn't do anything for herself, have any hobbies, or socialising at all, apart from look after them, cook, clean etc and seems to live through their lives. I think this is really sad but I am looking in from the sidelines and there's not much I can say. DH thinks the same about the situation and does try to encourage her to do other things but nothing changes.

Recently DH was sorting through some life admin and looking at a subscription / membership for a magazine which he first set up years ago when he was about 17 (geeky hobby related). He decided he was no longer interested in it and wanted to cancel the quarterly subscription but when he phoned up it turned out the subscription was in his Mum's name (mil). She must have set it up for him when he was younger because he was under 18. The magazine company refused to speak to him as he was not the named account holder, and so later that day I rang up and pretended to be his Mum to cancel the subscription. All they asked was if I would 'authorise' them to speak to DH, and then DH took the phone and took about 2 minutes to cancel it, no big deal.

DH spoke to mil on the phone last night, to catch up and arrange details for a forthcoming family wedding. He mentioned in passing he had cancelled the subscription, and mil was really sad and upset about it! First of all she said 'why on earth didn't you ask me to phone and cancel instead of petal', the answer to which was that I live in the same house as DH and it made sense! (I don't think mil was worried about the legality of it or anything as it was only a trivial matter and wasn't like we were on the phone to HMRC posing as her or something. It was more about the fact that he didn't come to her for help.) She then went on to say "it's so sad, I've been looking after that subscription for you for over ten years," and he said she was on the verge of tears! AIBU to think WTF?!!?

Next she asked if she could add him on Facebook and Instagram. DH said he doesn't really use them much (which is true). She also asked if she could see his LinkedIn - FFS! - and DH said he would rather not add his Mum as a contact as it's for his work and his his acquaintances are all professional! Anyway, after the phone call she still sent friendship / add requests! DH's sibling tells him mil set up brand new accounts especially to add DH and said she wanted to see his photos.

DH started a new job in January and mil began asking him about his salary. He said something vague like 'it's a nice step up' and she asked for the figure. This is an interesting one as I don't know how people feel about sharing salary details with their parents (?), and I'm sure it depends on how close you are, but in the context of her behaviour it just got my goat a bit and I thought she was out of order to ask for full details!

Finally DH's brother (27) is hoping to move out and has been looking at flats in a town near mil. Mil was upset about this and saying it was 'ridiculous' as how would sibling manage all his laundry and cooking...!

This is in the context of a history of this type of stuff. As you can tell I am ranting and letting off steam!

OP posts:
manicmij · 14/03/2019 19:47

If MIL still has six of her children living with her and given how she seems to have made a martyr of herself no doubt she serves them hand and foot. No wonder she doesn't have any interests, there will be little time available for her. Some people can't wait to see children move out for some peace and quiet, others feel worthless, feeling a great loss. You undermined her, with what you did with the phone call. Don't you think she may wonder when else you could be impersonating her?

winniestone37 · 14/03/2019 20:00

It's not really sad that ypu MIL has made her kids her life, that's her choice, the fact you look down on her is yours. We all have to manage our relatives, so what that she asks nosy questions - don't answer. You both sound pretty horrible tbh, all you've described is normal life with any extended family. There's nothing wrong with her. Have a chat with yourselves and cultivate some compassion and patience you pair of eejits.

Awalkinthepark1 · 14/03/2019 20:34

Poor MiL, what a nasty person you are. You’re looking down your nose at this woman who,has brought up 7 children and with no support from a DH. Have you any idea how difficult that must have been for her. You’re jealous of your MiL and you’re interfering with the relationship your DH has with her, shame on you.

newnamepetal · 14/03/2019 21:20

Get lost op!!!
It upsets me to think I might have a DIL like you one day
You seem to have as many issues as she does
You both sound pretty horrible
You pair of eejits.
what a nasty person you are
shame on you.


I think she needs to let go
i understand entirely op
DH needs to tell MIL to back off!
I don't think it was unreasonable to just cancel the subscription especially when DH was OK with it
OP, I think you’ve gotten a bit of a hard time on here today, somewhat unfairly imo

So it's a 50/50 split opinion. I wonder how many of the unkind comments came from women who saw themselves in my description of mil. In any case it wasn't meant as a criticism of all mother in laws, and the comments that have been made are unkind at best and super spiteful, and trolling at worst. To do nastily accuse me of being unkind when I have expressed empathy for my mil throughout this thread is ironic to say the least, or they just didn't read the thread. I may have criticised mil but I certainly didn't use the type of language some posters have chosen to use. It's really sad and an unnecessarily nasty way to use MN. I guess some people just get a kick out of this kind of personal attack of others from their keyboards. I doubt their family lives are a constant bed of roses and that they've never felt frustration at individuals in their family, and 'heaven forbid' a mother.

Thanks to the 50% who were supportive, and the other 25% who were able to respectfully disagree without resorting to personal unkind insults. Thanks

I'm deleting this thread now so any further vitriol won't be seen by me. The trolls can chat amongst themselves.

OP posts:
ChicCroissant · 14/03/2019 22:35

You can't delete threads yourself OP.

missyfafa · 14/03/2019 22:39

I don’t use Mumsnet much and have only just started re:posting after a few years but really some of the comments in here have been so vitriolic and unkind. Unnecessarily so. It’s very sad to see how unsupportive some women can be. 😔

Eslteacher06 · 14/03/2019 22:40

@missyfafa absolutely agree!

missyfafa · 14/03/2019 22:45

I’m quite shocked. Hope you are okay OP and Jesus, those folk who have blown the whole ‘cancelling a subscription’ into a ‘stealing someone’s identity crime’ need to take an enormous chill pill!

ZippyBungleandGeorge · 14/03/2019 22:52

I don't actually think there's an issue with you pretending to be her, I've done it with my DM before, she's incredibly disorganised but is often the named account holder so they won't speak to DF without her consent, eg they were massively over paying sky for months they wouldn't speak to DF , DM kept saying she'd call but didn't, in the end I called and gave permission to add DF as a secondary account holder. DM was pleased so I didn't over step. I do think your DH IBU to not add her on FB though, that sounds like teen (Kevin and Perry) type behaviour. I'm sure she'd let go of linked in of he added her on fb. Clearly she's a bit of a smother, but your stance is the other end of the scale

StoppinBy · 14/03/2019 23:11

It's not always rational behaviour that parents display when it comes to our children growing up. Every new stage they reach is a new sign that we need to let go a little more and for some of us it is really really hard. My DD is only 6 and I am sad that she is 1/3 of the way to being 18.... like I don't want to even think about her being an adult lol.

Cut her some slack, you may have to eat your words if you have children of your own and are one of 'those' Mum's lol.

fatimashortbread · 14/03/2019 23:19

Nor way would I let my parents or in-laws be friends on Facebook; same as I am not friends with my kids. We are children/parents not friends it’s a completely different relationship. I find it sad when young adults don’t want to leave home - it’s the natural way to make your own life if you are able

whywhywhy6 · 14/03/2019 23:26

Jesus - the MIL is batshit and so are half these posters (who are probably also overbearing MILs). She needs to back off and if I was you I’d just stop sharing info with her. I couldn’t handle the drama and tears over a 10 year old magazine subscription that she effectively had nothing to do with! Your other examples would have me thinking I’d need to keep my distance. Imagine asking for anyone’s salary details? Confused

scubadive · 14/03/2019 23:50

I think you’re being quite mean. If she has 6 children living with her as a single parent (some teens) she wouldn’t have time for hobbies!!! To say she is living her life through them is not understanding the role of a parent and some parents are more selfless than others. I’m a true believer that children only live with you for a part of your life and there is plenty time for hobbies Before and after. It’s hard for any parent when children leave home and move on, it doesn’t mean you don’t want your children to move on. I think you should start appreciating what a great mother she must be to bring up all those children b herself and she clearly has done a good job as you have chosen one for your husband.if and when you have children yourself you might appreciate the love and bond parents have for their children and that it’s not an easy job and you can’t be perfect all of the time. If it wasn’t for your MIL your DH wouldn’t be who he is now.

scubadive · 14/03/2019 23:51

Ps. I am not a MIL.

clairemcnam · 15/03/2019 00:07

No one is expecting her to be perfect. But she is being way over the top.

snitzelvoncrumb · 15/03/2019 00:20

Mil is just struggling to let go of being mummy, he just shouldn't have mentioned it. I would add on on FB, but not LinkedIn. Maybe he should ask her advice on something random occasionally, so she still feels needed.

Birdie6 · 15/03/2019 00:44

I've got adult children older than your DH - I'm on their Facebooks and Instagrams . I don't see anything wrong with that - it's a good way to keep in contact, see pictures etc.

Other than that - hey we're all different. If MIL likes her living arrangements and wants to devote herself to her kids, what' s the harm ? She doesn't sound horrible or intrusive into your lives at all. Considering that you only see her every few months, I wouldn't worry about her actions since she isn't affecting your lives.

WyfOfBathe · 15/03/2019 01:05

I wouldn't say DH or I are especially close to our parents. We live in a different country to them.

I still have them (parents and PIL) as friends on Facebook. If any of them used Instagram, I wouldn't have a problem having them there. Linkedin is a bit different as I only have professional contacts.

My parents also know roughly what I earn (to the nearest 5/10k) and that DH earns approximately the same. I also know roughly what my DP earn. I don't see this as intrusive.

The magazine subscription is unusual and maybe irrational, but lots of things about relationships are always irrational and it obviously meant something to her. I wouldn't be that pleased about being impersonated on the phone either!

Jasmineallenestate · 15/03/2019 01:21

I hope this ends up in the daily mail. The bullying is disgusting. Sorry op you were abused by these nutters.

ValeurNutritive · 15/03/2019 01:28

I don't think AIBU is the right place to vent. You're not really seeking advice and are simply being critical of your MIL.

That said, her reaction to the magazine cancellation is crazy (if she was upset about the impersonation I'd understand that to a point, but that doesn't seem to be it).

It does also sound like she is clinging on to her kids too hard if she is so upset about a 27 year old moving out.

I can see that she might be smothering, particularly for your DH.

That said, most of the other examples in your OP get a big shrug from me and idk any issue with friend requests over Facebook or LinkedIn at all (would be a bit mean to not accept them).

I also feel like a lot of the comments aimed at you in this thread are quite unwarranted.

Decormad38 · 15/03/2019 01:29

Another over invested mil. The threads are full of them tonight. I think she’s over reacting. Its a magazine subscription not life insurance! It’s also one more way these mums hang on to their sons. She would do my head in. My mil is fab by the way.

Nairobe · 15/03/2019 08:40

Not sure why some are saying the OP is toxic when this is led by her dh and she's just supporting him.

He doesn't want to add his mum to s/m, not op...i wonder why? Maybe he feels she's overbearing and too intense and it will make her worse? Maybe he needs to give a little to keep her appeased and off his back?

Not share his salary...is there a backstory or is he very private anyway? Has his dm asked for money? That's why i won't disclose mine with some family.

The BIL...its ludicrious she hasn't taught them to be self sufficient but that isn't either of your problems. Just a breezy 'I'm sure he will be fine but talk to him if you are worried' should cover it.

Adding his dm to fb may get her off his back a bit if she is too intense and if it works the other way he can restrict her without her knowing.

It sounds like she's terrified of the 'feeder effect'. Your dh leaving prompting the others too, which BIL moving does add weight to.

thaegumathteth · 15/03/2019 08:58

The magazine thing is slightly odd on her side BUT not a big deal.

Refusing to friend her on FB sis downright mean imo and I’d be so upset if my son did this. If he hardly ever uses it then what does it matter?

OMGafourth · 15/03/2019 16:58

1st point, I agree with. I wouldn't be too bothered if I were her.
2nd point, I don't see the harm in adding her to Facebook, but would refuse LinkedIn as it doesn't look too professional.
3rd point, I couldn't care less who knows what I earn, so that question wouldn't bother me at all!
In regards to the 27yo... If they've never acquired life skills maybe she's right to worry Grin but seriously, if she's on her own and always lived for her children, she may be finding it hard to cut the apron strings.

Awalkinthepark1 · 15/03/2019 20:04

I’m not surprised MiL only comes to visit once or twice a year as you sound horrible. MiL sounds like a nice warm caring person to me.