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MIL ridiculous to be upset about this??

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newnamepetal · 13/03/2019 18:23

I've posted about my MIL before under an old name, and this is a bit of a WWYD / AIBU.

For context, DH is 29 and has lived independently since the age of 18 (university) after which he never went home (to a small quiet town) and instead moved to a big city with his job, which is about 2.5 hours away from mil and where we both live. We / he visits mil every few weeks and she comes to us every few months.

Mil has 7 children (!) of which DH is the eldest. The others (nearly all adults, some teens) all live with her (no fil in the picture). She has always had trouble dealing with DH being independent and not being her baby anymore. It's obvious that her identity is all about motherhood and unfortunately she doesn't do anything for herself, have any hobbies, or socialising at all, apart from look after them, cook, clean etc and seems to live through their lives. I think this is really sad but I am looking in from the sidelines and there's not much I can say. DH thinks the same about the situation and does try to encourage her to do other things but nothing changes.

Recently DH was sorting through some life admin and looking at a subscription / membership for a magazine which he first set up years ago when he was about 17 (geeky hobby related). He decided he was no longer interested in it and wanted to cancel the quarterly subscription but when he phoned up it turned out the subscription was in his Mum's name (mil). She must have set it up for him when he was younger because he was under 18. The magazine company refused to speak to him as he was not the named account holder, and so later that day I rang up and pretended to be his Mum to cancel the subscription. All they asked was if I would 'authorise' them to speak to DH, and then DH took the phone and took about 2 minutes to cancel it, no big deal.

DH spoke to mil on the phone last night, to catch up and arrange details for a forthcoming family wedding. He mentioned in passing he had cancelled the subscription, and mil was really sad and upset about it! First of all she said 'why on earth didn't you ask me to phone and cancel instead of petal', the answer to which was that I live in the same house as DH and it made sense! (I don't think mil was worried about the legality of it or anything as it was only a trivial matter and wasn't like we were on the phone to HMRC posing as her or something. It was more about the fact that he didn't come to her for help.) She then went on to say "it's so sad, I've been looking after that subscription for you for over ten years," and he said she was on the verge of tears! AIBU to think WTF?!!?

Next she asked if she could add him on Facebook and Instagram. DH said he doesn't really use them much (which is true). She also asked if she could see his LinkedIn - FFS! - and DH said he would rather not add his Mum as a contact as it's for his work and his his acquaintances are all professional! Anyway, after the phone call she still sent friendship / add requests! DH's sibling tells him mil set up brand new accounts especially to add DH and said she wanted to see his photos.

DH started a new job in January and mil began asking him about his salary. He said something vague like 'it's a nice step up' and she asked for the figure. This is an interesting one as I don't know how people feel about sharing salary details with their parents (?), and I'm sure it depends on how close you are, but in the context of her behaviour it just got my goat a bit and I thought she was out of order to ask for full details!

Finally DH's brother (27) is hoping to move out and has been looking at flats in a town near mil. Mil was upset about this and saying it was 'ridiculous' as how would sibling manage all his laundry and cooking...!

This is in the context of a history of this type of stuff. As you can tell I am ranting and letting off steam!

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RLABC · 13/03/2019 20:07

Oh and by the way, I've never asked my son how much he earns. The only time I've mentioned it was when he was applying for a mortgage, I just wanted to make sure he wasn't overstretching himself. He didn't tell me a figure, only that he'd be ok. I never knew my parent's salaries, neither did they know mine. We just wouldn't have asked.

newnamepetal · 13/03/2019 20:09

Okay BertrandRussell, your post sounded like you were saying the DIL (i.e. me) was toxic, which i thought was unfair and unkind. If that's not what you intended then fair enough.

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Alsohuman · 13/03/2019 20:09

What MiL does when “all her chicks leave the nest” is MiL’s business.

AliceLiddel · 13/03/2019 20:11

i would think adding him on facebook and instagram was normal (i have DM and MIL on mine, no problem). Linkedin is different. The salary thing is up to DH and his relationship with her. My DM would never ask me my salary but MIL would (and I dont mind). I sort out her tax returns and know what she earns.

However I would encourage you to be kind and just let it all go as, when you're a parent (assuming you aren't already) you may end up with a DIL with different priorities and views one day Flowers

Frenchmontana · 13/03/2019 20:11

You dont have to manage him.

Trust me on this. I had to go NC with my parents because my mum is a nasty piece of work.

But they act how they act. It's up to your dh to manage his own behaviour. She doesnt push his buttons. These are his reactions and he can change that. He cant force her to change.

Your issue is with your DHS reaction. Not with mil

ravenmum · 13/03/2019 20:12

She then went on to say "it's so sad, I've been looking after that subscription for you for over ten years," and he said she was on the verge of tears! AIBU to think WTF?!!?
When I had to cancel my daughter's subscription to her teenage magazine I also felt a bit sad. I'd set it up for her and she used to love it - and now she was no longer interested. It really rubbed it in that she was no longer my little girl. I'd probably have been more upset if I'd been getting it for years, as the one little thing I could do from a distance, a last link to my child and their youth - and then some newcomer on the scene just helped them cancel it without my knowing, as if it was nothing important.

Personally I'd try to hide any emotion and keep it breezy, as I wouldn't want my children to be upset, but your MIL is evidently not as tough-skinned.

The woman has 7 children. She hasn't had time for any hobbies!

Tunnockswafer · 13/03/2019 20:12

Yeah with 6 young men currently at home I’m guessing she doesn’t feel her footloose and fancy free years have come just yet. She might surprise you.

Frenchmontana · 13/03/2019 20:13

It maywork.bothways but it's probably not helpful to assign blame. There is a bit about suffocating inlaws in the book, too. It is v useful onhow.toset boundaries and use non defensive language

But you are assigning blame. You are saying the mil is toxic....so read this book

newnamepetal · 13/03/2019 20:13

But they act how they act. It's up to your dh to manage his own behaviour. She doesnt push his buttons. These are his reactions and he can change that. He cant force her to change.

Yes you are right. This is good advice, thank you.

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cstaff · 13/03/2019 20:15

Your mil needs to get a life of her own. In a few years all her kids will be gone and she will be very lonely having revolved her life around them. Also if she remains this clingy she will drive them away and they won't even come back to visit.

The whole fb and linkdin thing is weird. If she wants to join go for it but add your own friends and colleagues.

Oly4 · 13/03/2019 20:17

In the context of rubbish mother in laws, yours is not one of them. Why do you care if she’s a bit sad about it? She’s hardly done anything wrong. And yes, I’d find it weird you pretending to be me. To be honest, I think you’re coming down really hard on her. You’re the one that sounds possessive of your DH tbh

thebeesknees123 · 13/03/2019 20:17

Mil isn't posting. When the author uses the word, toxic, she tends to use it when the dynamic isn't healthy and gives advice on what to do about it -while still maintaning a relationship. You would have to read it to see what I mean.
There is actually a description of a similar type in the book with basically nice inlaws who are just too overbearing and guilt trippy

newnamepetal · 13/03/2019 20:18

as the one little thing I could do from a distance, a last link to my child and their youth - and then some newcomer on the scene just helped them cancel it without my knowing, as if it was nothing important.

To be clear again, DH was paying for it all along, not mil. Mil has never paid for it. DH cancelled it. He asked me to speak on the phone briefly.

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ravenmum · 13/03/2019 20:20

As she said, " I've been looking after that subscription for you for over ten years" - so evidently she did feel as if she had something to do with his subscription.

ravenmum · 13/03/2019 20:21

And you helped him cancel it. Just to be clear again.

newnamepetal · 13/03/2019 20:21

As she said, " I've been looking after that subscription for you for over ten years" - so evidently she did feel as if she had something to do with his subscription.

Exactly my point. She didn't have anything to do with it, but she felt like she did. Therefore it's irrational.

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newnamepetal · 13/03/2019 20:21

As she said, " I've been looking after that subscription for you for over ten years" - so evidently she did feel as if she had something to do with his subscription.

Exactly my point. She didn't have anything to do with it, but she felt like she did. Therefore it's irrational.

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ravenmum · 13/03/2019 20:22

But I'll also just agree that she's really being unreasonable, if that's your preference Grin

newnamepetal · 13/03/2019 20:22

Sorry for double post Raven

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ravenmum · 13/03/2019 20:23

Of course it's irrational. Love is irrational. Feelings are irrational.

Alsohuman · 13/03/2019 20:23

We all do and think things that are irrational.

AcrossthePond55 · 13/03/2019 20:25

I have two grown sons. I'm not on FB or IG, but if I were I wouldn't ask to be 'friends' with my sons, I'd wait until they asked me. We do follow each other on Twitter, but that's mostly due to our favourite baseball team & the current political situation here.

I'd never ask my sons what they earn! Their finances are none of my business unless they're asking me for money (which they don't). I know they're doing fine by the lives they lead. That's all I need to know.

As far as pretending to be me for a mag subscription, I can't see myself getting upset about it. It's pretty minor and I'd figure they were just wanting to save me the hassle of making the call to cancel myself.

Honestly, though, I feel sorry for MiL. I do know what it's like when your little chick fly the nest, even when you have a spouse to share things with. She is going to end up with no life and possibly not much contact with her adult children if she gets too over-involved. Has anyone thought of sitting her down and having a gentle talk about getting a life going for herself? It doesn't have to be nasty, just saying that now that the children are on their own this is 'her time' to expand her horizons and see 'what's out there'.

Although my mum & dad had a wonderfully full life, most of what they did was together. So after my dad died and Mum was a bit at loose ends, she started volunteering at a soup kitchen and getting active with her church. She ended up forming new friendships and new interests. She traveled, learned new things, and just enjoyed life.

crimsonlake · 13/03/2019 20:26

Maybe you will reflect on this particular post you have written in many years to come and identify with the life your mil has chosen to lead. If you are ever lucky enough to have children perhaps you will then understand that when they have grown up in your mind they will always be your children deep down. Have some empathy.

pictish · 13/03/2019 20:28

My eldest is 17 and growing up so fast! He has been a bit of a horror recently, being a selfish, reckless sort of teen, as so many are.
Last weekend I was bussing it home from a boozy afternoon lunch out and it happened to pause by a noodle bar. There was a mother and son sitting in the window having dinner. He was about 3 or 4 and gazing out of the window all big round eyes, while his mum chatted to him about what he was looking at. Though they didn’t look a single bit like me or my ds1 I was still struck by their countenance as it was so very reminiscent of us at the same stage of our lives. I hadn’t yet had our younger two children and at that age it was very much me and him checking out the world together.
I was surprised to find myself hiding my tears after that. I remembered what a pleasure he had been as a little one and how that contrasted with the arguments we have been having now. I’m still proud of my son, he’s a good soul and will pan out well in the end...but yeah, it was a silly thing that made me feel mournful and sentimental about my child growing up.
I have a job, friends, interests and keep well and active. At times I would even confess to being selfish. I love my kids like nothing else on earth though and can’t imagine a time where I wouldn’t be fascinated by how they’re getting on. That’s the mum that I am. I don’t think that’s weird at all.

BertrandRussell · 13/03/2019 20:29

Look. I cried when my dd moved from her baby car seat to a toddler one. She’s 23 now and was back for the weekend and when I dropped her off at the station to go bck home I asked her if she had her ticket safe and gave her a tenner “spending money”. She rolled her eyes-but took it! Grin

Cut her some slack, OP. It makes no difference to you and makes her happy.

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