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MIL ridiculous to be upset about this??

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newnamepetal · 13/03/2019 18:23

I've posted about my MIL before under an old name, and this is a bit of a WWYD / AIBU.

For context, DH is 29 and has lived independently since the age of 18 (university) after which he never went home (to a small quiet town) and instead moved to a big city with his job, which is about 2.5 hours away from mil and where we both live. We / he visits mil every few weeks and she comes to us every few months.

Mil has 7 children (!) of which DH is the eldest. The others (nearly all adults, some teens) all live with her (no fil in the picture). She has always had trouble dealing with DH being independent and not being her baby anymore. It's obvious that her identity is all about motherhood and unfortunately she doesn't do anything for herself, have any hobbies, or socialising at all, apart from look after them, cook, clean etc and seems to live through their lives. I think this is really sad but I am looking in from the sidelines and there's not much I can say. DH thinks the same about the situation and does try to encourage her to do other things but nothing changes.

Recently DH was sorting through some life admin and looking at a subscription / membership for a magazine which he first set up years ago when he was about 17 (geeky hobby related). He decided he was no longer interested in it and wanted to cancel the quarterly subscription but when he phoned up it turned out the subscription was in his Mum's name (mil). She must have set it up for him when he was younger because he was under 18. The magazine company refused to speak to him as he was not the named account holder, and so later that day I rang up and pretended to be his Mum to cancel the subscription. All they asked was if I would 'authorise' them to speak to DH, and then DH took the phone and took about 2 minutes to cancel it, no big deal.

DH spoke to mil on the phone last night, to catch up and arrange details for a forthcoming family wedding. He mentioned in passing he had cancelled the subscription, and mil was really sad and upset about it! First of all she said 'why on earth didn't you ask me to phone and cancel instead of petal', the answer to which was that I live in the same house as DH and it made sense! (I don't think mil was worried about the legality of it or anything as it was only a trivial matter and wasn't like we were on the phone to HMRC posing as her or something. It was more about the fact that he didn't come to her for help.) She then went on to say "it's so sad, I've been looking after that subscription for you for over ten years," and he said she was on the verge of tears! AIBU to think WTF?!!?

Next she asked if she could add him on Facebook and Instagram. DH said he doesn't really use them much (which is true). She also asked if she could see his LinkedIn - FFS! - and DH said he would rather not add his Mum as a contact as it's for his work and his his acquaintances are all professional! Anyway, after the phone call she still sent friendship / add requests! DH's sibling tells him mil set up brand new accounts especially to add DH and said she wanted to see his photos.

DH started a new job in January and mil began asking him about his salary. He said something vague like 'it's a nice step up' and she asked for the figure. This is an interesting one as I don't know how people feel about sharing salary details with their parents (?), and I'm sure it depends on how close you are, but in the context of her behaviour it just got my goat a bit and I thought she was out of order to ask for full details!

Finally DH's brother (27) is hoping to move out and has been looking at flats in a town near mil. Mil was upset about this and saying it was 'ridiculous' as how would sibling manage all his laundry and cooking...!

This is in the context of a history of this type of stuff. As you can tell I am ranting and letting off steam!

OP posts:
BrinkPink · 13/03/2019 19:12

I can understand you impersonating her just avoid having to ask her as she’d make a fuss about it. But then yes don’t tell her! IME she wanted him to ask her so she could make a fuss and be over-involved. Because he hadn’t asked her, she then looked for other ways to get more involved i.e. Facebook etc. as a reaction.

She probably doesn’t mean to be overbearing but values her kids for the “mum” role they give her. She doesn’t like it being taken away, or anyone doing ‘her” jobs, whether that’s her own dc or their partners. So you impersonating her will have felt threatening.

I would certainly find it stressful if I were you op, or your dh. But you can’t change her - just work on ways to be polite and kind but not let her overstep boundaries too much. Especially so if you have dc.

She’ll have to learn eventually that her dc can move out and run their own lives. But leave that to them to deal with.

Birdsgottafly · 13/03/2019 19:13

How old is she?

Making friends isn't easy, as you age.

It would be nice if you have something like Homestart, for her to volunteer at.

7 children is the equivalent of a full on Career. Many people do not have hobbies.

It would be helpful if your DH didn't discuss her with you, seeing as you aren't understanding about it.

Frenchmontana · 13/03/2019 19:15

newnamepetal you feel sad for her? Why? That is sneery.

Why does she need hobbies? Because you think she should?

How is it a lot of pressure for you? You dint live near her? She isnt your mum?

You cant say anything because its non of your business.

ladyratterley · 13/03/2019 19:15

I would struggle with her too OP.
It sounds like you & MIL are very different. I would find her inability to cut the apron strings a bit ridiculous too. That doesn’t make me (or you!) a horrible person, I just have a different relationship with my parents so I’d find it hard to relate to.
I baulked at the “we visit her every few weeks & she visits us every couple of months” bit!
Why?!

FFSFFSFFS · 13/03/2019 19:15

The people on here having a go at you OP are I suspect prone to behaviour like your MIL.

I freak out about almost anytime of law breaking but even I think that saying you authorise them to speak to your DP is totally fine.

She is an insane controlling MIL. Make sure to live very very far away if/when you have bambinos.

puppy23 · 13/03/2019 19:16

Being really close with my parent, this wouldn't bother me, but not everybody is, and thats ok too

ideasofmarch · 13/03/2019 19:17

When the OP says 'sad' she means just that. As in sadness, that the MIL has no life other than living it through her dc's and that will be coming to an end as her dc's all leave home.

Not 'sad' as in pathetic or her MIL is a saddo.

FFS

I get you, OP.

SnuggyBuggy · 13/03/2019 19:17

People with no hobbies or life outside their kids can become right miserable fuckers once they retire or the kids move out. I've seen it with family members and it's not healthy. Nothing sneery about it.

Frenchmontana · 13/03/2019 19:18

And OP you will get mothers who have done the same as your MIL - make being a mother their whole identity - having a go at you. They will feel personally attacked by your post. But you are still right.

Except.......I have a career, always have and was the main breadwinner until my divorce. My 15 year old does her own washing and 8 year old DS does housework too.

I have no intention being over in Estes in their lives or doing their washing until they are in their 20s.

But that's my choice. Doesnt make it right for everyone.

33goingon64 · 13/03/2019 19:19

Gosh I don't understand people being so sharp with you OP. She sounds massively overinvested and I think that would annoy me too. However you don't suggest that you don't like her and if anything you're thinking of ways she could have more of a life for herself.

BrinkPink · 13/03/2019 19:19

To be fair I think clinging onto your role of doing housework and cooking for adult children for validation is a bit sad and it’s fine to take a dim view of it. It’s not great parenting after all, it’s needy and doesn’t help her kids to grow up.

So I can sympathise with you being a bit Hmm about it but the point is she’s not your mum and it’s not your place to complain, iyswim. Just support dh, try to be kind but don’t let her do it to you. You could apologise for the impersonating but explain you were just being practical and didn’t mean to upset her.

ssd · 13/03/2019 19:21

As a mum of boys mn has been invaluable to me as I know even though I'm a bit of a softy and do too much I'll never slide into looney territory like your MIL op

newnamepetal · 13/03/2019 19:21

The people on here having a go at you OP are I suspect prone to behaviour like your MIL.

I think you may have hit the nail on the head!

And no, I don't think it's "sneery" to feel sad that she has little identity, and no hobbies / life of her own outside of motherhood when her children are nearly all adults. I am sad because I can see where it is going and once they do all eventually leave she will struggle even more than she does now. That is sad imo.

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SheSaidNoFuckThat · 13/03/2019 19:22

@newnamepetal I agree with you, it's bizarre. At some point she WILL have an empty nest and will have to deal with this, although she's probably hoping she will have grandkids by then.

As for fb and insta, if he barely uses it then there's no point. LinkedIn is definitely not the place for friends and family, it's a business networking site

onthenaughtystepagain · 13/03/2019 19:23

nice workaround you calling back and saying you were his mum.

Is it? Maybe next time she impersonates another person it will be for something far more serious, not a 'nice work around' at all. The DIL has shown that she is capable of dishonesty.

Bomato · 13/03/2019 19:24

Sorry but I think YABU. She hasn't done anything wrong. She loves her son and a lot of parents feel sad/nostalgic like this sometimes. I think you're a bit judgmental about her life and the number of kids she has. I think it's sweet she wants to see your dh's photos and also it's sad she has to resort to social media to feel connected to him. I don't know why he won't just add her?

Alsohuman · 13/03/2019 19:24

I thought this was going to be the usual trampling all over boundaries complaint. No idea what your problem is, OP. I can’t see how it impacts on you at all.

Overtheborder · 13/03/2019 19:24

How much "looking after" is needed with a magazine subscription? Hmm

If your dh doesn't use social media much then what harm can it to adding her? Obviously not to linkedin if he would rather not.

We don't discuss salaries with parents here at all, it's none of their business.

However, my mil recently told us her nephew (dhs cousin) had been offered a new job and what his oay would be - she had it out before I realised wages were being discussed and I told her it wasn't any if our business what he was being paid and that if cousin knew he'd be mortified.
She didn't see the harm (cousin had obv told his mum, mil's sister)

Mummyoflittledragon · 13/03/2019 19:25

It may be breaking the data protection act. But this should never have been an issue in the first place. Ops mil should have handed the subscription over to her ds some time in the last decade seeing as he’s been an adult at least that long. The fact that she didn’t do this says more about her than it does about op. Op pretending to be her mil was a harmless act and put no one at risk. It isn’t in the same league as divulging the whereabouts of an abused child to their abusive parent for example.

Kolo · 13/03/2019 19:25

Kolo no she never paid for the subscription. She just out it in her name because he was 17.

Then no, I can’t see why she would be upset about something she signed 10 years ago. I guess, like you say, she’s more sad about her kids flying the nest.

newnamepetal · 13/03/2019 19:26

Maybe next time she impersonates another person it will be for something far more serious, not a 'nice work around' at all. The DIL has shown that she is capable of dishonesty.

"the next time..." This is clearly ridiculous! I am not a professional imposter!

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BrinkPink · 13/03/2019 19:28

Or maybe op can tell the difference between a harmless quick fix and dangerous lawbreaking?

PlainSpeakingStraightTalking · 13/03/2019 19:30

OP - the bit I don't get , sorting out admin, cancelling magazine subscription - exactly WHO did DH think was paying for it for the past 12 years if it wasn't coming out of his bank account ? Hmm

Nancydrawn · 13/03/2019 19:31

It sounds as if she's clinging to whatever she can, which is driving him (and you) further away, which is making her cling harder, which is driving him even further, etc.

I suggest that a useful way to manage this, rather than simply be annoyed by it, is to compromise on things that aren't important. So, he should add her to Facebook but not to LinkedIn ("Mum, I do want to keep my LinkedIn just for work, so I'm going to add you to Facebook.") He can block her from viewing whatever he wants, and if he doesn't use it much, it's no skin.

When she starts going on about her second son moving out, say cheerily, "That transition can be so hard! But you must be so proud of him for his career successes/branching out/whatever."

As for salary, you can draw whatever line you want. My parents know pretty specifically (not down to the last dollar, but certainly down to the grand), but a) we're close and b) they were helping with mortgage logistics (not funding, but paperwork) while I was abroad.

If you give her an inch and she takes a mile, then you can walk it back. But I suspect she's lonely and left out, and giving her a little bit will make her more secure and less annoying.

AhNowTed · 13/03/2019 19:32

Why are you poking your nose into a mother and sons relationship and making a big deal about absolutely nothing?

I have a 24 year old working son. Quite natural to discuss his salary. Just because he now has a partner doesn't mean he's no longer my son. We're also on LinkedIn and Facebook. We talk, share ideas, have similar tastes and political views.

Honestly it sounds like you're trying to create some kind of wedge between him and his mother. Why would that be?

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