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MIL ridiculous to be upset about this??

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newnamepetal · 13/03/2019 18:23

I've posted about my MIL before under an old name, and this is a bit of a WWYD / AIBU.

For context, DH is 29 and has lived independently since the age of 18 (university) after which he never went home (to a small quiet town) and instead moved to a big city with his job, which is about 2.5 hours away from mil and where we both live. We / he visits mil every few weeks and she comes to us every few months.

Mil has 7 children (!) of which DH is the eldest. The others (nearly all adults, some teens) all live with her (no fil in the picture). She has always had trouble dealing with DH being independent and not being her baby anymore. It's obvious that her identity is all about motherhood and unfortunately she doesn't do anything for herself, have any hobbies, or socialising at all, apart from look after them, cook, clean etc and seems to live through their lives. I think this is really sad but I am looking in from the sidelines and there's not much I can say. DH thinks the same about the situation and does try to encourage her to do other things but nothing changes.

Recently DH was sorting through some life admin and looking at a subscription / membership for a magazine which he first set up years ago when he was about 17 (geeky hobby related). He decided he was no longer interested in it and wanted to cancel the quarterly subscription but when he phoned up it turned out the subscription was in his Mum's name (mil). She must have set it up for him when he was younger because he was under 18. The magazine company refused to speak to him as he was not the named account holder, and so later that day I rang up and pretended to be his Mum to cancel the subscription. All they asked was if I would 'authorise' them to speak to DH, and then DH took the phone and took about 2 minutes to cancel it, no big deal.

DH spoke to mil on the phone last night, to catch up and arrange details for a forthcoming family wedding. He mentioned in passing he had cancelled the subscription, and mil was really sad and upset about it! First of all she said 'why on earth didn't you ask me to phone and cancel instead of petal', the answer to which was that I live in the same house as DH and it made sense! (I don't think mil was worried about the legality of it or anything as it was only a trivial matter and wasn't like we were on the phone to HMRC posing as her or something. It was more about the fact that he didn't come to her for help.) She then went on to say "it's so sad, I've been looking after that subscription for you for over ten years," and he said she was on the verge of tears! AIBU to think WTF?!!?

Next she asked if she could add him on Facebook and Instagram. DH said he doesn't really use them much (which is true). She also asked if she could see his LinkedIn - FFS! - and DH said he would rather not add his Mum as a contact as it's for his work and his his acquaintances are all professional! Anyway, after the phone call she still sent friendship / add requests! DH's sibling tells him mil set up brand new accounts especially to add DH and said she wanted to see his photos.

DH started a new job in January and mil began asking him about his salary. He said something vague like 'it's a nice step up' and she asked for the figure. This is an interesting one as I don't know how people feel about sharing salary details with their parents (?), and I'm sure it depends on how close you are, but in the context of her behaviour it just got my goat a bit and I thought she was out of order to ask for full details!

Finally DH's brother (27) is hoping to move out and has been looking at flats in a town near mil. Mil was upset about this and saying it was 'ridiculous' as how would sibling manage all his laundry and cooking...!

This is in the context of a history of this type of stuff. As you can tell I am ranting and letting off steam!

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LaBelleSauvage · 13/03/2019 18:49

Fudge I agree with you. It's not good parenting to do everything for your children. They need to learn to care for themselves.

You are training them to be functional adults

bananasandwicheseveryday · 13/03/2019 18:50

Rude to pretend to be MIL.
She is not rude to send friend requests, equally, your Dh is at liberty to deny or ignore them.
I would not ask my own dcs specific questions about their salary, although I might ask something general such as 'is the money OK? '
You do seem quite dismissive and judgemental of your MIL in terms of the number of children she has and her choices around her life. Some people look on being a mum as their primary role and consider that completely fulfilling - they don't all have to participate in other activities to be a worthwhile human being.
Personally, if I could have afforded not to work, I would have rather stayed at home. I was fortunate though, that I could switch to a job that gave me maximum time with my DCs when they were at home. Just because your MIL made different choices to you, is no reason to be so dismissive of them.

Mosaic123 · 13/03/2019 18:50

I do think it's rather nice to know your adult kids' salaries if they are willing to share them, as long as you keep it to yourself.

MatildaTheCat · 13/03/2019 18:52

None of your examples is very indicative of an over invested mother who has boundary issues. Some families are very open/ nosy about finance. My in-laws were forever trying to find out what we earned, I’d just laugh it off. On the other hand my own DC tell me what they earn without me asking, they just share like that.

The magazine one is a bit different. She will have been receiving letters and communications about this geeky magazine for the past ten years- I know I set up a one year subscription for nephews and several years later they keep writing. Perhaps that’s a really fond memory she has. It’s not like she started screaming and crying?

So from what you’ve said I think YABU. When your Dc are grown up you can’t get it right whatever you do. These pages are full of posters sad their parents aren’t interested in them. Or too interested. Live too close, too far. Be careful, you’ll be in their place soon enough. Smile

Birdsgottafly · 13/03/2019 18:52

You'd have to give more examples.

It's not wrong of her to struggle with the end of her lifestyle (the family) coming to an end.

It's no different than someone being forced to retire.

Does she have Grandchildren?

lostfrequencies · 13/03/2019 18:53

I just couldn't get worked up about this stuff like you are. It seems like you are looking for problems.

category12 · 13/03/2019 18:53

I think it's a bit crap not to add her on FB etc. LinkedIn no, but the other social media, it's a bit of a dick move. All he needs to do is set up her permissions on his page so that she only sees what he wants her to see. She gets what she wants as far as she knows, and he can share only what he wants with her still.

bridgetreilly · 13/03/2019 18:54

If he hardly uses FB/IG, what's the big deal in adding her as a friend? If there's stuff he really doesn't want her to see, he can set it to be visible only to a custom list on FB, and he can even unfollow her so he doesn't see anything she posts. IG is public anyway - she can follow him if she wants.

Drum2018 · 13/03/2019 18:54

You'd think she'd have enough on with the other 6 still living at home. I understand your rant. She is overly involved in her adult children's lives. You should look at setting some firm boundaries and don't give her any information if you don't feel comfortable with it - financial information especially. I don't see the issue with contacting the magazine. Your Dh didn't want it, you managed to cancel it, end of. Her reaction was ott. She needs to realise that she's not in control of Dh's life anymore. It's a shame she has no hobbies of her own to keep her occupied.

LL83 · 13/03/2019 18:54

Your dh was rude not to agree to friend her on social media. Even if he is rarely on it is hurtful to block anyone.

If someone has 7 children they dont have time to have hobbies so that will be why she is struggling to fill her time now they are grown.

All parents worry and many joke how will child cope with chores.

Impersonating her would be ok to me in that situation, but why tell her?

myhouseistoocold · 13/03/2019 18:57

She's overly invested, it sounds difficult for DH and for you (and for DHs siblings).

I'm not sure why people are getting so rulesy about the phone thing - it was DHs subscription and it needed cancelling and the company were being jobsworthy about it - nice workaround you calling back and saying you were his mum.

Like you said it wasn't HMRC or anything that had any impact or implications on his mum.

Kolo · 13/03/2019 18:57

Did she pay the subscription? If she did, I can sort of imagine how it might be a bit upsetting - she thought all these years that she was giving this gift to her son, who was enjoying it. I can imagine it would sting a bit to discover they weren’t really bothered about it all along. Probably wouldn’t cry over it, mind.

If she didn’t pay, only out her name to it because her son wasn’t old enough to sign, and he’s been paying the subscription for 10 years, then I can’t fathom why she’d be upset about it.

Mummyoflittledragon · 13/03/2019 19:01

I really couldn’t get het up about the impersonation. It was only necessary due to a technicality. Your mil doesn’t want to let go. I can understand why that would annoy you as it means she is trying to control your dh. In turn this impacts your relationship. It will be interesting imposing boundaries if you have gcs. Are the grandparents controlling?

I don’t think what you are saying is disrespectful or take anything away from what she represents as a mother. It also sounds as though you’d rather she gave more to herself.

newnamepetal · 13/03/2019 19:02

Kolo no she never paid for the subscription. She just out it in her name because he was 17.

myhouseistoocold I agree. I think some people have latched onto the "rulebreaking" as though it's far worse than it is. Also mil wasn't even concerned about that. Her tears were because she would no longer be looking after the subscription.

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LaBelleSauvage · 13/03/2019 19:03

Agree why doesnt he just add her on FB? LinkedIn though.... that's weird

GreenEggsHamandChips · 13/03/2019 19:04

Yeah its breaking the data protection act. Its pretty bad. I might not have told ypu what i thought but i would have been totally horrified

Windowsareforcheaters · 13/03/2019 19:05

What's the big deal bout adding her to social media?

She will stalk him. Obviously.

Tunnockswafer · 13/03/2019 19:05

I’d be very cautious around anyone who lied on the phone like that. Why wasn’t your first thought “better ask dmil to call them then” rather than to impersonate them?! Of course you should have your dm on Facebook, unless you are estranged.

clairemcnam · 13/03/2019 19:06

Some parents, but mostly mothers, make being a mother their whole identity. So yes they do struggle when their kids become adults. You see it on here not infrequently.

Tunnockswafer · 13/03/2019 19:06

How did the subscription get paid for? The mum’s name but the son’s bank account?

newnamepetal · 13/03/2019 19:07

Yes, when people said I was sneery I respectfully do not agree. I said I felt sad that she doesn't have hobbies and is so invested. As all her children are now able to basically look after themselves around the house, it would be lovely see her taking on some hobbies and getting some friends of her own. But there is not much I feel I can say in my position that would be appropriate or helpful. And the impact of her not doing those things is indeed a lot of pressure and feels suffocating (and infuriating at times).

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clairemcnam · 13/03/2019 19:08

And OP you will get mothers who have done the same as your MIL - make being a mother their whole identity - having a go at you. They will feel personally attacked by your post. But you are still right.

Tunnockswafer · 13/03/2019 19:09

Well that’s us told then hmm]

Frenchmontana · 13/03/2019 19:10

Honestly I think examples set you in a bad light.

The subscription, whatever you think, meant she was saving something that she thought her son would like. You pretended to be her. How she feels about it, is nothing to do with you.

Asking to add him to social media, how has it got to a place where she needs to ask? Have either of you thought that if he added her to Facebook she wouldn't be that bothered about LinkedIn? If he doesnt use Facebook or Instagram, what's the problem with adding her? She obviously wants to know more about whats happening in his life. Mum would like to know at least a bit that's happening in their sons life so not a shocker

Wage- meh it's a touchy subject for some and not for others. It is for you but not for her.

The other son moving out......that's nothing to do with you. He is ketyong her do his washing and ironing. He could be a grown up and do it himself. I hate when people say 'why is the mother enabling him'. He is an adult and could do it if he wanted. He doesnt

As for the condescending all she has is being a mother talk.....so what. I have a career. I always have. Why would it bother you that someone has dedicated their life to being a mother.

I get it. You dont like her. But I suspect if your dh was a bit more open with her and involved her a bit more, she wouldn't be as bad. Both you and your husband need to stop looking down on her as though she has wasted her life and is a bit of saddo. Because that's how it comes across. She probably knows that deep down.

SnuggyBuggy · 13/03/2019 19:12

Id pick my battles and try to accept what can't be changed. I do agree it's a shame she has no life of her own bit all you can do is offer gentle encouragement.