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MIL ridiculous to be upset about this??

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newnamepetal · 13/03/2019 18:23

I've posted about my MIL before under an old name, and this is a bit of a WWYD / AIBU.

For context, DH is 29 and has lived independently since the age of 18 (university) after which he never went home (to a small quiet town) and instead moved to a big city with his job, which is about 2.5 hours away from mil and where we both live. We / he visits mil every few weeks and she comes to us every few months.

Mil has 7 children (!) of which DH is the eldest. The others (nearly all adults, some teens) all live with her (no fil in the picture). She has always had trouble dealing with DH being independent and not being her baby anymore. It's obvious that her identity is all about motherhood and unfortunately she doesn't do anything for herself, have any hobbies, or socialising at all, apart from look after them, cook, clean etc and seems to live through their lives. I think this is really sad but I am looking in from the sidelines and there's not much I can say. DH thinks the same about the situation and does try to encourage her to do other things but nothing changes.

Recently DH was sorting through some life admin and looking at a subscription / membership for a magazine which he first set up years ago when he was about 17 (geeky hobby related). He decided he was no longer interested in it and wanted to cancel the quarterly subscription but when he phoned up it turned out the subscription was in his Mum's name (mil). She must have set it up for him when he was younger because he was under 18. The magazine company refused to speak to him as he was not the named account holder, and so later that day I rang up and pretended to be his Mum to cancel the subscription. All they asked was if I would 'authorise' them to speak to DH, and then DH took the phone and took about 2 minutes to cancel it, no big deal.

DH spoke to mil on the phone last night, to catch up and arrange details for a forthcoming family wedding. He mentioned in passing he had cancelled the subscription, and mil was really sad and upset about it! First of all she said 'why on earth didn't you ask me to phone and cancel instead of petal', the answer to which was that I live in the same house as DH and it made sense! (I don't think mil was worried about the legality of it or anything as it was only a trivial matter and wasn't like we were on the phone to HMRC posing as her or something. It was more about the fact that he didn't come to her for help.) She then went on to say "it's so sad, I've been looking after that subscription for you for over ten years," and he said she was on the verge of tears! AIBU to think WTF?!!?

Next she asked if she could add him on Facebook and Instagram. DH said he doesn't really use them much (which is true). She also asked if she could see his LinkedIn - FFS! - and DH said he would rather not add his Mum as a contact as it's for his work and his his acquaintances are all professional! Anyway, after the phone call she still sent friendship / add requests! DH's sibling tells him mil set up brand new accounts especially to add DH and said she wanted to see his photos.

DH started a new job in January and mil began asking him about his salary. He said something vague like 'it's a nice step up' and she asked for the figure. This is an interesting one as I don't know how people feel about sharing salary details with their parents (?), and I'm sure it depends on how close you are, but in the context of her behaviour it just got my goat a bit and I thought she was out of order to ask for full details!

Finally DH's brother (27) is hoping to move out and has been looking at flats in a town near mil. Mil was upset about this and saying it was 'ridiculous' as how would sibling manage all his laundry and cooking...!

This is in the context of a history of this type of stuff. As you can tell I am ranting and letting off steam!

OP posts:
ravenmum · 13/03/2019 20:29

My parents and step-parents all basically waited until the house was empty before they really got into new hobbies. My stepmother really suffered from her son flying the nest; she loved being a mum, and I think it took her the longest to really settle in with new activities.

This woman still has 6 teenagers and young adults at home with her, so is unlikely to be twiddling her thumbs just yet. I bet that in a few years' time, though, she'll find some new thing to do. You just have to eventually.

DelilahfromDenmark · 13/03/2019 20:30

My MIL is a bit like this. Nothing else going on in her life apart from her two sons who are busy with their own lives. She is always trying to butt in and give her opinion on things that don’t concern her. Drives me insane.
Anyway OP, I think you’ve gotten a bit of a hard time on here today, somewhat unfairly imo. She needs to get on with her own life and stop interfering in her children’s.

newnamepetal · 13/03/2019 20:32

@pictish You sound like a great mum. As is my MIL by the way. As I've said I like her very much. Of course you would feel emotional under those circumstances and that is completely natural.

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clairemcnam · 13/03/2019 20:33

Nobody is denying they will always be MIL's children. But her kids are teenagers and adults. Basing your whole like around your kids when they are this age, is setting yourself up for heartache.

newnamepetal · 13/03/2019 20:35

Thanks Delilah I appreciate your post. I agree and think my post may have inadvertently touched a nerve with many. I did read MN HQ this week saying AIBU is a brutal place sometimes so perhaps I ought to have posted elsewhere - lesson for next time. However I have read some thoughtful and understanding posts too, so its not all bad!

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newnamepetal · 13/03/2019 20:36

Thanks all, signing off now. Goodnight

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Lollypop701 · 13/03/2019 20:39

Possibly the problem starts with having 7 kids, mil would have no time for a life outside her kids. That becomes self fulfilling , no time except for anything other than kid stuff so kids become her life. Tbh, the eldest is going to have the worst experience of this, as he’s her first love, and he’s leaving her. She isn’t horrible to you, so it’s just nostalgia. He sounds like he’s a good man, so mil has done a good job. Cut her some slack, She’s learning to let her adult kids fly the nest and the pangs of not being needed are hard! Boundaries will be ok as you are both on Same page. Be kind!

Alsohuman · 13/03/2019 20:39

With six of them still living at home it would be miraculous if they weren't her whole life. I really hope when the last one leaves home she takes up burlesque dancing and buys a Harley and leathers and is never, ever available for baby sitting.

HollowTalk · 13/03/2019 20:47

I think that if you like her, then it would be kind to help her to get herself another life as an adult rather than a parent. Does she have any friends? What sort of hobbies does she have? Who does she confide in - a sister or a friend, or just her children?

It can be really difficult to let go of children. She's had to be all-absorbed in family life and it's quite understandable that she'll struggle to let go.

Frenchmontana · 13/03/2019 20:50

OP, if you come back tomorrow.....do you think your mils behaviour bothers you because your dh does the same thing?

crikeycrumbsblimey · 13/03/2019 21:01

Poor woman probably doesn’t understand what linked in is - give her a break!

I think it is really mean not to have your mum on social media without good reason.

& don’t go down the route of everyone who disagrees with me is like her. Two kids, great career and I think you sound mean as well.

Windowsareforcheaters · 13/03/2019 21:03

It is really difficult to let go of children. I know I'm in the middle of it.

But you do it because it's the right thing to do. If you allow them freedom they will fly back, but if you try to hold on to them it's suffocating.

When my mum dropped me at university she cried and sobbed. I've never really forgiven her for making a difficult time for me all about her. When I dropped my son off I told him I loved him, we were always there for him and he should enjoy himself and make the most of his time at university.

Being needy is only going to cause problems.

Tinkobell · 13/03/2019 21:05

When I read your thread it is the MIL I find myself feeling sorryer for than either you OP or your DH. I wouldn't have even told her about the subscription....what's to gain from that. It's like you say no to most things and yes to very few things.

SheSaidNoFuckThat · 13/03/2019 21:09

@C8H10N4O2 I would say a large % of LinkedIn members are parents, most people are just saying they don't want their own on it as it's for business - if you and your parents are in the same business that would be different. I certainly wouldn't have my parents on mine.

UnspiritualHome · 13/03/2019 21:41

You (the pair of you) should have asked her to cancel the subscription

What if she refused to do it, which looks likely? Is her son supposed to spend the rest of his life disposing of this useless mag as it descends through the letterbox?

My kids won't let me access their FB pages, mainly in case I should either see or say something embarrassing, it doesn't bother me. I must admit to sobbing uncontrollably when I dropped DD off at university, though I just about managed to hold it together till she'd gone off.

BertrandRussell · 13/03/2019 21:44

It’s all about being kind, really, isn’t it?

Ticketybootoo · 14/03/2019 17:38

I think she needs to let go for the simple reason she really needs to let her son have a relationship with you without interfering in any way , Apologies if this sounds judged but I have been there and actually know a married 55 year old man well who’s Mother still makes his packed lunches daily for him and he’s married !!

Pumpkintopf · 14/03/2019 18:02

Absolutely Bertrand Russell it is all about being kind.

Op if you're still reading please try to have some empathy towards your MIL and treat her kindly. It upsets me to think I might have a DIL like you one day who would treat me with such contempt for putting my children first.

rainingonmyfireworks · 14/03/2019 18:02

i understand entirely op, my dm is like your mil and was exactly the same with me, controlling and living her life through me. even when i announced i was getting married she cried and said to stepfather ' x is taking rain away from me' i was, wait for it ...27.

Sb74 · 14/03/2019 18:04

Im thinking as a mum rather than partner, of which I am both. Having my own kids has made me more sympathetic to the batty ways of Mil My son is 10 and daughter 12 and they will always be my babies. I don’t think anyone should stop the relationship between a mum and her kids. My mil has acted bonkers at times but as a mum I get it now and I just let it go over my head. I encourage my hubby to ring his mum and see them etc as he doesn’t bother much but I know it must upset her not hearing from him much. I would ask my kids what they earn when they’re older. Yes I’ll be dead nosy. I’m their mum. So get lost op!!!

Catsinthecupboard · 14/03/2019 18:32

My mil died in October. She was terribly cruel and petty towards me. Actually did things like throwing out something i inherited from my mother who inherited it from her mother. On purpose. She was mental.

She told me that I ruined her life. I stuck it out. Tried to be less petty and I tried to be kind/polite as possible under the circumstances.

It was the right thing to do for my dh and dc but also for me bc I don't have regrets.

I think it's common for parents to have fb and ig accounts to keep up with family. Especially if she feels like she misses her ds. LinkedIn is off bounds.

You'll be a mil someday. You seem to have as many issues as she does.

MachineBee · 14/03/2019 18:34

The simplest solution would have been to cancel the DD/SO at your bank. You wouldn’t need to have been involved.

They’d [subscription service] have written to her to ask why it was cancelled and then your DH could have simply said to her that he didn’t didn’t need it any more. It would have pointed out very clearly to her that he’d been ‘managing’ the subscription by actually paying for it. With his own money not hers.

I wonder if she’s made a leap from his cancelling the subscription to him being in financial difficulties-hence the clumsy question about his salary.

bmbonanza · 14/03/2019 18:46

DH needs to tell MIL to back off!

BertrandRussell · 14/03/2019 18:55

“DH needs to tell MIL to back off!“

Well, if he wants her to, then yes. It’s not up to the OP, though.

Purplegecko · 14/03/2019 19:01

Perhaps it's because I have such a great and healthy relationship with my parents but.. YANBU. I wouldn't bat an eyelid at cancelling the subscription, and I think it's weird that at almost 30 she still wants to be this involved in every detail of his life. Harmless, really, but I don't think it was unreasonable to just cancel the subscription especially when DH was OK with it, it is his mother after all

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