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MIL ridiculous to be upset about this??

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newnamepetal · 13/03/2019 18:23

I've posted about my MIL before under an old name, and this is a bit of a WWYD / AIBU.

For context, DH is 29 and has lived independently since the age of 18 (university) after which he never went home (to a small quiet town) and instead moved to a big city with his job, which is about 2.5 hours away from mil and where we both live. We / he visits mil every few weeks and she comes to us every few months.

Mil has 7 children (!) of which DH is the eldest. The others (nearly all adults, some teens) all live with her (no fil in the picture). She has always had trouble dealing with DH being independent and not being her baby anymore. It's obvious that her identity is all about motherhood and unfortunately she doesn't do anything for herself, have any hobbies, or socialising at all, apart from look after them, cook, clean etc and seems to live through their lives. I think this is really sad but I am looking in from the sidelines and there's not much I can say. DH thinks the same about the situation and does try to encourage her to do other things but nothing changes.

Recently DH was sorting through some life admin and looking at a subscription / membership for a magazine which he first set up years ago when he was about 17 (geeky hobby related). He decided he was no longer interested in it and wanted to cancel the quarterly subscription but when he phoned up it turned out the subscription was in his Mum's name (mil). She must have set it up for him when he was younger because he was under 18. The magazine company refused to speak to him as he was not the named account holder, and so later that day I rang up and pretended to be his Mum to cancel the subscription. All they asked was if I would 'authorise' them to speak to DH, and then DH took the phone and took about 2 minutes to cancel it, no big deal.

DH spoke to mil on the phone last night, to catch up and arrange details for a forthcoming family wedding. He mentioned in passing he had cancelled the subscription, and mil was really sad and upset about it! First of all she said 'why on earth didn't you ask me to phone and cancel instead of petal', the answer to which was that I live in the same house as DH and it made sense! (I don't think mil was worried about the legality of it or anything as it was only a trivial matter and wasn't like we were on the phone to HMRC posing as her or something. It was more about the fact that he didn't come to her for help.) She then went on to say "it's so sad, I've been looking after that subscription for you for over ten years," and he said she was on the verge of tears! AIBU to think WTF?!!?

Next she asked if she could add him on Facebook and Instagram. DH said he doesn't really use them much (which is true). She also asked if she could see his LinkedIn - FFS! - and DH said he would rather not add his Mum as a contact as it's for his work and his his acquaintances are all professional! Anyway, after the phone call she still sent friendship / add requests! DH's sibling tells him mil set up brand new accounts especially to add DH and said she wanted to see his photos.

DH started a new job in January and mil began asking him about his salary. He said something vague like 'it's a nice step up' and she asked for the figure. This is an interesting one as I don't know how people feel about sharing salary details with their parents (?), and I'm sure it depends on how close you are, but in the context of her behaviour it just got my goat a bit and I thought she was out of order to ask for full details!

Finally DH's brother (27) is hoping to move out and has been looking at flats in a town near mil. Mil was upset about this and saying it was 'ridiculous' as how would sibling manage all his laundry and cooking...!

This is in the context of a history of this type of stuff. As you can tell I am ranting and letting off steam!

OP posts:
Sparkletastic · 13/03/2019 19:32

God I'm so with you OP she sounds suffocating. She needs to develop interests outside of her children.

newnamepetal · 13/03/2019 19:33

PlainSpeakingStraightTalking Yes, it was taken out of his bank account every year. I think the first time she set it up at the start, but thereafter a S/O came out of his account so he never needed to check the name on the account and didn't realise it was in her name.

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C8H10N4O2 · 13/03/2019 19:33

LinkedIn is definitely not the place for friends and family, it's a business networking site

Adding your Mum to LinkedIn?

LinkedIn though.... that's weird

Right and obviously parents, especially mothers, are not going to be in any kind of business role or useful to have in a business network. Hmm

Tinkerbell456 · 13/03/2019 19:34

I have to say, I feel a bit sorry for the mil here. Yes, she sounds a tad needy. Obviously, her life has completely revolved around her kids and it must be hard when they start to fly the nest. I would also be a bit annoyed if someone else claimed to be me on the phone. I understand it seemed, and was, the easy answer, but still a bit cheeky. Adding your Mum on linked in ( assuming of course that you don’t have work related dealings) would be a bit odd. I just think this lady just needs a little kindness, and to,know that despite being all grown and partnered up, she is still important to him.

Eslteacher06 · 13/03/2019 19:35

I don't agree with impersonating someone on the phone, but have this type of MIL. Wait til you have kids.... it's all shits and giggles then! She gives me 40 year old advice and then gets offended when I say I won't do it. Or she will completely ignore things I tell her when looking after my DD (e.g. Please don't give DD a bottle of juice to bring to bed).

Be glad she lives 2.5 hours away and your husband sees what you see.

Chocolate1984 · 13/03/2019 19:36

You’re annoyed she asked to be her sons Facebook friend? Annoyed she asked to follow his Instagram account so she could see his pictures? I think that’s normal.

newnamepetal · 13/03/2019 19:36

Right and obviously parents, especially mothers, are not going to be in any kind of business role or useful to have in a business network. hmm

That's right CH - she has been a sahm for the last 30 years. Nothing wrong with that whatsoever, completely valid choice. But it doesn't really tally with her joining LinkedIn.

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FudgeBrownie2019 · 13/03/2019 19:39

In the whole of my 21 years in employment I've never discussed my salary with either of my parents. I love them, am close to them and wouldn't ever hide it if they asked, but it's an odd thing to want to know what your adult child earns, and when you ask and are given a "it's a nice figure" type of response to push further for an exact sum is downright weird, Mother or not.

OP you sound pretty level-headed from here. Your MIL is over-invested in her DC's lives and as a result now is probably finding it hard to let go. That's her problem; try to be understanding and ignore it and reassure your DP that he doesn't owe her answers to things he doesn't want to share. Some things are suitable for MIL, some things are not. If you're building your life together you get to determine the rules about what you're comfortable sharing, she's no longer the one in charge.

newnamepetal · 13/03/2019 19:41

I have to say, I feel a bit sorry for the mil here.

Me too. I feel said. But it also gets frustrating at times, because I'm human. Compounded by years of stuff thats happened before.

I don't think I'm creating a wedge. DH came and told me about this conversation as he was feeling stressed by it. I have encouraged him to ask her about her own life and support her to develop hobbies etc, as far as I can without sticking my nose in.

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thebeesknees123 · 13/03/2019 19:41

I think she feels threatened by you and perhaps she is picking up on your irritation and seeing it that way. I think you need to disarm her , open up a bit in order to show that's not the case. Why not invite her out for a meal or something so you can get to know one another better.

I would imagine, with 6 others still at home, she's busy enough and still feels she hasn't got time to work. So I doubt she's twiddling her thumbs with your dh not there

FudgeBrownie2019 · 13/03/2019 19:42

Right and obviously parents, especially mothers, are not going to be in any kind of business role or useful to have in a business network.

OP didn't (that I can spot) mention all Mothers serving no purpose on LinkedIn. She simply pointed out that this specific MIL serves no purpose on LinkedIn as someone who has spent the better part of 30 years being a SAHM.

Isth · 13/03/2019 19:44

You come across as very sneery about your MIL. Yea, she might be a bit clingy (altho id argue that being linked on social media, albeit not linked in, is very normal) but she’s your husbands mother, and she loves him. Just let it go, none of this stuff really matters.

GabsAlot · 13/03/2019 19:44

a 12 year old subscription shes upset about? i think thats her controlling him making him feel guilt

ballsdeep · 13/03/2019 19:44

You just don't like your mil. You don't sound very nice

C8H10N4O2 · 13/03/2019 19:44

That's right CH - she has been a sahm for the last 30 years.

None of the comments, including yours, talk about it in individual terms though - the comments are all generic and negative about adding your mum/parents on Linkedin.

That makes it ageist rubbish rather than a considered individual decision.

I also don't see why DH couldn't simply ask her to cancel the subscription rather than you lying and pretending to be her - I agree with pp that was rude.

FB has filters - you don't have to show her or see anything you don't want to.

She may be struggling a bit coming to terms with effectively retiring after a life in her job but she sounds a damned sight more thoughtful than you do.

Frenchmontana · 13/03/2019 19:45

I think you may have hit the nail on the head!

Oh look sherry again. Anyone who disagrees with me must be like mil.

Or maybe they just disagree with you.

Isth · 13/03/2019 19:45

I am coming at it from an understanding angle, mind you. My own mother is a clingy nightmare who, given her way, would keep us all (5 of us, you can add your own slightly snarky ‘(!)’ ) on the home farm forever more.

pictish · 13/03/2019 19:45

You want to keep your mil at arm’s length while she wants to be included in her son’s life.

My first thought is that she feels nostalgic about the subscription and she attaches some sentimentality to it. You would be amazed at the funny things that make you feel sentimental and yes, sometimes a bit bereft over your kids that you poured your heart and soul into raising. Wait till your kids are grown up and tell me you have never encountered something similar. You will have, I guarantee it.

I think it’s fine to ask to be added to your grown up child’s Facebook or Instagram. What’s weird is that you think it’s weird.
As for the LinkedIn profile, she probably just wanted to see him appearing all professional and successful so she could feel proud of him. She’s interested in her son’s life. That is normal.

I’m not going to tell you that you’re in the wrong because I don’t know your mil. Perhaps she is an overbearing nightmare...but honestly, in this post your gripes are petty and all seem to centre around you thinking your mil has no right to be sentimental about or interested in her son.
While I appreciate that there is a backstory that has led to this point and so much more to it than you have described here, I do think you are coming across as rather haughty and callous.
As I have said on here before, sometimes it is the dil who is the problem. Going solely on what you have written here, it sounds like that’s you.
Sorry. Honest opinion.

BlackPrism · 13/03/2019 19:46

She certainly sounds overly-invested! Let's hope one of them wants to stay at home forever!

Although it's not strange to have your parents on SM, I would say quite rude and strange not to tbh (unless obviously you aren't on good terms). And it's fairly normal to know your kids salary too. You mention he only found out he way paying for his subscription now, how on earth didn't he notice in what, 12 years?

AhNowTed · 13/03/2019 19:46

"I think she feels threatened by you"

Oh I think it's clearly the other way round.

onthenaughtystepagain · 13/03/2019 19:47

"the next time..." This is clearly ridiculous! I am not a professional imposter!

No? Nothing clear about it, you've shown yourself to be capable of deceitful behaviour. Had your MIL made a phone call and pretended to be you for some reason I'm sure she would be interred in the MN version of hell for MILs!

SheSaidNoFuckThat · 13/03/2019 19:47

@C8H10N4O2 it was clear it was being talked about in a family not business sense. Stop choosing to be offended

C8H10N4O2 · 13/03/2019 19:48

OP didn't (that I can spot) mention all Mothers serving no purpose on LinkedIn

Well even if you ignore the initial sneery comment the OP followed up with this one disaparaging the idea of adding a mother in general:

Right. Adding your Mum to LinkedIn?

pictish · 13/03/2019 19:48

I don’t think asking his salary is any great shakes either. It’s only money. My mum would have asked me and she was a peach.

dustarr73 · 13/03/2019 19:48

The bit i dont get is,you know what she is like.And you told her when you didnt have to.I think you like the drama