Man sues clinic for performing abortion on his girlfriend without his consent

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metro.co.uk/2019/03/07/boy-19-sues-abortion-clinic-giving-ex-termination-wishes-8855393/

I don't even know what to say to this. I made the mistake of reading some of the comments about it on Facebook too.

Surely this can't stand up in court?

she needs to realise that actions have consequences.
The action of having sex had the consequence of having an abortion. I imagine she's well aware of what happened, how and why. Unless you're suggesting that society should enforce unwanted pregnancies as punishment to teach sexually active women a lesson...?

well she should have thought about that before getting pregnant at 16 - she needs to realise that actions have consequences

“Getting pregnant”?

She does realise there’s consequences, she had an abortion.

Nothing to do with the guy. Not his body, not his business.

Were you there when conception took place, ThunderStorms? No. Didn’t think so. So you can’t teally pass comment on whether contraception was used.

Neither can you say he didn’t use a condom.

No, boot biologically possible, men can’t have babies. She cold hand it over to him like a (surrogate) and fight for the law to absolve her of all future responsibilities.

Why the fuck should a 16 year old child be forced into pregnancy and childbirth by a pathetic, bullying little dickhead who believes he should have power over her body?!

I can’t even believe this is a conversation on International Women’s Day in 2019. Fucking disgusting.

He may not have abstained, but he understands that sex can lead to pregnancy and wants to be ale to look after the baby.

Sounds like he understands what he did and is prepared to accept the consequences.

So babies are a punishment for having sex? You should probably avoid parenthood with that kind of attitude.

Give him credit for wanting to stand by his mistake and look after the baby

I don't see it like that at all. Someone who thought like that wouldn't be trying to sue a clinic.

Sounds like he understands what he did and is prepared to accept the consequences

Then he accepts the abortion.

The only alternative is forcing a 16 year old to become nothing more than an incubator.

@thunderstorms Gilead called, they want you back.

@ThunderStorms he should have abstained as well then shouldn't he?

There's one thing you're right about, a man carrying a child is a biological impossibility.

He cannot take the child and gestate it himself.

He cannot take the morning sickness, he cannot take the pain, the stretch marks, the swollen feet, the restricted diet, the cravings, the horrible hormonal mood swings. He will not have to buy maternity clothes. He will not have to pay for check ups and scans. He won't have to disrupt his education to attend appointments and have the child. He cannot take her exams for her. He cannot attend classes for her and take notes. He cannot apply to college for her, or attend her interviews in her place.

He will not have to take the pain and trauma of childbirth. He cannot take the risk of injury, disability, or even death that comes with childbirth. He will not have to take the risk of having to have an episiotomy, or the risk of a prolapse, or incontinence, or the myriad other ways childbirth can adversely affect a woman's body. He cannot take away the post natal depression, or the stigma of being a single mother at 16. He cannot give her back her pre-baby body and the 9 months she will have lost of being a normal teenager.

But sure, she could be a surrogate and just hand the baby over. Because as far as you're concerned, only the man and the baby matter, right?

pathetic, bullying little dickhead who believes he should have power over her body?!

And you know this is true of him, do you?

You are blinkered.

@passpawpatrol who?

And you know this is true of him, do you?

The very nature of his lawsuit suggests he believes he should have power over her body.

Until men can give birth - biological men that is - they don't have a leg to stand on as he doesn't carry the child for 9 months etc.

Because as far as you're concerned, only the man and the baby matter, right?

Nah. That poster clearly doesn't give a toss about the 'baby'.

Thunder have you ever almost died giving birth? I have, I haemorrhaged so badly I wasn't expected to survive. I wouldn't wish that on any woman but that's a risk you take when you WANT a child. If you don't want to take the risk and you find yourself pregnant, you have an abortion.

Someone who thought like that wouldn't be trying to sue a clinic

Anybody who’s lost a baby, whatever the means, wold be able to understand his desperation

He may not have abstained, but he understands that sex can lead to pregnancy and wants to be ale to look after the baby.

And I want a god damn unicorn. Unfortunately this is reality and we don’t always get what we want.

Especially teenage boys trying to force teenage girls to undergo pregnancy against their will.

If he wants to look after a baby that much then he can find someone who’s on the same page as him.

@thunderstorms the fact that you have no idea about The Handmaid's Tale only further magnifies your ignorance about bodily autonomy for women.

it's his baby too

At 6 weeks gestation it's not a baby at all. It's an embryo. It has no legal status as a person until it is born which is fundamental to safeguard a woman's right to bodily autonomy.

My pregnancies were hard on me and my baby, but I’m am not going to discuss that here.

6 weeks pregnant. "A baby" 😂.

It's just an embryo at this point, the size of a bloody grain of rice.

Entitled males like this just makes me want to set the world on fire. Can they just die.

I don’t base my feminism on a made up TV program, thank you.

*And you know this is true of him, do you?

You are blinkered.*

I’d hazard a guess, considering he’s suing a medical practice over a legal procedure carried out years ago on somebody he had no biological relationship with - yes. Perfect way to exert your male privilege whilst punishing your ex and making her relive what was likely a painful time for her.

If it makes me blinkered, bring it on.

Anybody who’s lost a baby, whatever the means, wold be able to understand his desperation

No. Please don’t use the loss of a baby (and use the correct terminology, it’s a foetus) to suit your twisted MRA narrative.

A man does not get to dictate what a woman does with her body. Ever.