Man sues clinic for performing abortion on his girlfriend without his consent

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metro.co.uk/2019/03/07/boy-19-sues-abortion-clinic-giving-ex-termination-wishes-8855393/

I don't even know what to say to this. I made the mistake of reading some of the comments about it on Facebook too.

Surely this can't stand up in court?

MeAgainAgain, you're not wrong. I would say though that this case has already meant she's faced 'a large amount of condemnation', so in a sense, in for a penny in for a pound. Or, to put it another way, a lot of people in Alabama may well have already decided she's the worst kind of woman, so she's got nothing to lose.

Wouldn't it be amazing if men could take over a pregnancy and carry it themselves, this certainly wouldn't be happening would it.

It’s his baby, too.

And it's her body. She gets to say what happens to it.

She cold hand it over to him like a (surrogate) and fight for the law to absolve her of all future responsibilities.

Only after having carried the baby for 9 months, put her health in danger, messed up her career prospects, and gone through childbirth. Why should she be forced into all of that?

She didn’t use contraception either. Equally to 'blame'.

We don't actually know that. But even if she did, she was 16, he was older, and it's irrelevant to the fact that he shouldn't be permitted to dictate what happens to her body.

It would have been his baby too when it could have survived outside the womb. Until then, when it required the mother to host it, with all the negative effects on her physical and emotional wellbeing, no. Not his choice or his place to force a woman to grow a baby for him.

If men don't want to be parents, they need to use precautions e.g. a condom.

If they do want to be a parent, then they need to agree this with their partner in advance. Not force a woman to carry a child.

Christ!

It was his at that point 6wk old foetus, yes.

If only she could have then handed it over to him to carry, give birth to & bring up!

What a shame she told the fuckwit anything about it.

So the thinking is that woen should be forced to have the baby because the "father" wants it???

FermatsTheorem

Men get one point at which to decide whether to risk getting someone pregnant. The condom/no condom moment

100% this.

@kaytee87.

1 no.

2 she should have used protection, then shouldn’t she?

It'll be slung out, and rightly so.

I wish I had your confidence, given the current political climate in Alabama and the composition of the Supreme Court.

So in your book. @ThunderStorms, a 16 year old should be forced to go through a pregnancy and give birth all for the "crime" of failing to use contraception? And, again, how do you know she didn't?

Whilst it may be his baby too and yes of course it is sad for him if he would like to have the baby, do you really think it is reasonable to FORCE (because that’s what it would be) a woman to carry a baby to term and go through labour when she does not want a baby?! So she should be FORCED to go through that and the permanent affect it has on her body plus the risks associated with childbirth, because ‘it’s his baby too’?

She didn’t use contraception either. Equally to 'blame'.

But she's still the one whose body would have spent 9 months going through pregnancy and then labour at only 16 years of age, so hardly equipped, able or ready for parenthood or giving a child up for adoption.

It's not about the 'blame' or fault. It's simply a 16 year old who believed she was making the right choice for herself and had every right to do so. I can't believe a court anywhere in the civilised world would even entertain taking a case like this forward.

2 she should have used protection, then shouldn’t she?
Protection can fail. And when it does, luckily, some of us have the option of an abortion: which should be free, safe, legal and on demand worldwide for anyone who wants or needs it, without question. (And without the UK's paternalistic bullshit of needing two doctors to sign off on it.)

Surrogacy is not the backup option for unwanted pregnancies, because women are not walking wombs. What is it about bodily autonomy that you don't understand?

If they’re not married then surely he hasn’t got a leg to stand on?? Not that being married would give him a whole leg either but...
Here in Ireland you if you are married and you want your tubes tied or husbands wants to have a vasectomy then both are viewpoints are taken into consideration at the pre-appointments. So when my DH looked to get a vasectomy I was asked to come to the appointment too!

He looks like a fine upstanding citizen capable of supporting his girlfriend and their baby too.

I'm struggling to understand Thunders comments tbh. Let's blame the woman for fixing the issue of not being pregnant and feel sorry for the man. Shouldn't be having sex with someone who isn't ready to be a parent then should he.

Maybe she had an abortion because her bf was an abusive arsehole? This seems like the kind of thing an abusive arsehole would do.

Personally I think it's very sensible to have an abortion if you get pregnant at 16.

It’s got nothing to do with him, he doesn’t stand a chance of getting anywhere with this.

It's 50% to do with him and going on about her body blah blah blah - what crap - well she should have thought about that before getting pregnant at 16 - she needs to realise that actions have consequences.

Ignoring how horrendous the whole situation is.
Surly he would have been to young to give his consent anyways.
The girl was a minor so- from what I believe in America- would have needed her parents permission.
But he would only have been 17 so also too young to give his consent.

How do you all know he didn’t use a condom. They are not 100%.

If she didn’t want to risk a pregnancy, she could have abstained.

Give him credit for wanting to stand by his mistake and look after the baby.

Were you there when conception took place, @ThunderStorms? No. Didn’t think so. So you can’t teally pass comment on whether contraception was used.

As for expecting a 16 year old to act as a “surrogate” for the man/boy... gross.

It's 50% to do with him and going on about her body blah blah blah - what crap - well she should have thought about that before getting pregnant at 16 - she needs to realise that actions have consequences.

Jesus fucking Christ. Yes, the actions had a consequence, and she dealt with that consequence.

How is this hard for you to realise?

I posted because it's a disgrace that anyone would even entertain this.

This man will be bankrolled by people who want to try and get this into American law.

Dear God. Women still die in childbirth. Those that survive face lifelong injuries in some cases, plummeting mental health in more cases than we know, and the phenomenal responsibility of another human being. Pregnancy is no walk in the park and neither is giving birth. Any women going through that, must do so by choice.

In addition to that, there is no other situation in law where a living person can be forced to share or give over part of their body to another. You may be the only person on the planet who's blood type can ensure another person's survival. But no court in the UK or the us could force you to give that blood.

Bluntly the guy is an idiot and an arsehole, as is whichever lawyer has chosen to support him in this bullshit.

*Really

Why didn’t HE abstain, @ThunderStorms.

He gets fuck all credit from me for trying to control someone else’s body.