AIBU to ask if you changed your opinion about Brexit

[Flyingfish2019]

We had a lot of Brexit threads but I think not about this topic. As somebody who does not live in Britain I wonder if you changed your opinion about Brexit now that you heard that a hard Brexit is most likely. Would you vote different if there was a second vote?

because it will change the lives of other people & future generations

You mean people who didn't vote for it, in a way they almost certainly don't want?

Why?!

because it will change the lives of other people & future generations.

The ones who didn't vote for it, will have to pay for it and live with the consequences of it? Why? What have they done to you Surfer?

But millions of people have to ‘live with the consequences’ of a vote that didn’t go their way. How many people suffered under the Thatcher government? people who didn’t vote for her & wouldn’t have in a million years. They had to live with it because that’s how our voting system works.
What system do you want?

A wrestling match in the town square?

Indeed, like my 19 year old DS who's a 2nd year science student. He wants to stay in the UK but brexit, especially no deal, will DEVASTATE universities and research in general.

Anyway, hiding this thread now, it’s just annoying me.

That was in response to dione

What system do you want?

The one we have, democracy, in which people are free to steer to course of their country and pull it away from destruction.

Consequences and responsibility are hard surfer, there's no hiding away from them.

Surfer thinks her life isn't going to change as a result of Brexit but I have to say I hope she suffers the consequences just like everybody else.

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-news-live-theresa-may-deal-vote-commons-eu-backstop-a8817091.html?amp

Voted remain would vote remain again.

No but I can't vote even if I wanted to

I don't know why those who voted to leave are being blamed.
The government didn't have to leave but they had debates and decided they would.
Mrs May held an election and even though not an outright majority people still voted for the Conservatives.
The Government has fucked this up since everyone is playing party politics instead of working together to find a solution.

The government didn't have to leave but they had debates and decided they would.

Which wouldn't have happened at all without people voting Leave.

Mrs May held an election and even though not an outright majority people still voted for the Conservatives

Because they believed the hype and propaganda about the SNP without realising they'd let the DUP in through the back door.

The Government has fucked this up since everyone is playing party politics instead of working together to find a solution

The government keeps talking about "the will of the people" (Leave voters)

That's why leave voters are being blamed. Because it's their bloody fault!

Talkingpeece I’d like to ask you an off topic question:

You’ve often asked how exactly Brexit will change the lives of leave voters in any way.
Surely there are lots of things people would like changed even though it won’t affect their day to day lives.
For example I don’t know what your views were on hereditary peers automatically having a seat in the House of Lords. I would guess you were opposed to it but I could be wrong.
Anyway, say you were opposed to it and so you were pleased when Tony Blair’s government abolished this right apart from for 90 hereditaries.
How did this change your day to day life?
I’m very opposed to salmon farming as I thinks it’s cruel and unnatural but if it were abolished it wouldn’t change my day to day life in any way.

I should say how did the abolition of hereditary peers’ right to seat change your life for the better?

@Parker231 - www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-news-live-theresa-may-deal-vote-commons-eu-backstop-a8817091.html?amp

I had a quick read. So basically, they are suggesting that the MPs vote for a mythical, non-existent agreement. Presumably,this would be similar to the previous vote where they agreed to a non-specified replacement to the backstop?

The level of incompetence and idiocy in Westminster is actually shocking. If they don't vote for something concrete soon, they will sleepwalk into no deal, which most claim not to want.

Dapplegrey
I'm not an MP, I did not get to vote on those issues directly.
Anything I do vote on I check out carefully first.

Hence why I voted to stay in the EU because I knew that the Brexiters did not have a coherent idea of what they envisaged.

Its funny isn't it, how brexit will massively affect the day to day life of scientists, car-workers, city workers, NHS workers, researchers, students, academics, the poor, EU citizens etc.

but hey, its ok, brexit probably won't affect the comfortably off leave voters at all. Sweet really. Thank you for the sacrifices you make for us.

TonightJosephine
Right, let's look at this logically.

The number of people who voted leave in the referendum amounts to about a quarter of the population.

good to see that leavers aren't the only ones that apparently like to fiddle the numbers

What's wrong with Josephine's numbers? 17.4/66.8 = 0.2604. Seems 'about a quarter' to me.

The fact Commonwealth citizens were allowed to vote but EU citizens, who would have been affected, weren’t doesn’t make sense to me

But then again, we can’t vote in general elections too so I wasn’t too surprised

Thanks Crime.

Some people can't understand the difference between "those who voted in the referendum", "the electorate" and "the population".

There is something deeply offensive about the complacency of someone who admits that their comfortable life will be unaffected but voted to leave the EU because of their generalised and evidence-free perception that this will somehow improve the lives of young people.