To think everyone saying Shamima Begum should rot in Syria have completely overlooked the fact that she is pregnant

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Just that really. She did a terrible thing going to Syria to marry an ISIS fighter. But she was only 15 and probably incredibly naive. She has already lost two children, one as a complication of malnutrition. And the child she is pregnant with has done nothing wrong. Surely we shouldn't leave him or her there to die too?

There are probably hundreds, or maybe thousands, of innocent pregnant civilians in Syria. I'd rather we used our money and military input to help them start a new life than waste a penny getting her back to safety.

She is a British citizen so she has to be allowed back, if she can make it. Though she doesn’t deserve to. I feel sorry for her child. If she does return, then she should face the consequences of what she has done.

Why should the NHS pay for healthcare for her. She wanted to go to Syria so let her rot there. If she's stupid enough to believe she would have a better life with ISIS, despite the atrocities being all over the news, then she deserves what she's got

She's messed up her life so badly. I'm not British, nor living in the UK, I agree with the comment that there are thousands of pregnant Syrians. It's a tragedy really. Radicalisation is awful and there should be some programme to radicalisation-proof youngsters.

If she's a UK citizen, I don't see how she can be stopped from entering. Maybe it's her young age but she seems infatuated still, definitely a danger to the public in terms of trying to recruit or assist terrorists. That would need to be considered.

I save my pity for the yazidi women who were bought and sold - pregnant by rape, no by choice to marry 1, 2 murderers.

She chose to go - and this didn’t happen on the spur of the moment. It was planned and it would have taken days to reach their destination. She had years to realise what they were like - she went either believing it was all lies in the news or she bought into to violence. She appears not to have had an epiphany and just wants to use the system for her own ends (puss on the enemy, eh?).

No remorse, unfazed? Inhuman. How much will this cost the taxpayer? She would need constant security - money that I’d rather went to protect women living in fear of domestic violence. As would I prefer the lawyers fees that will be spent trying to get her back. She will be a lightening rod of other wannabe jihadists - she has no regrets and isn’t warning others of the violence, lies and madness of the wonderful life in a theocracy.

‘Just a child? Well when I was a ‘just a child’ of that age the scariest thing I did was have my hair chemically straightened ‘on a whim’. She worries about losing her child - but it will be taken away surely? Poor kid, imagine learning who your parents are?

If she felt so badly the need to live in a theocracy then why not go to Saudi?

Hopefully SS would take the baby from her as soon as it's born.

Haven’t read the thread but no she shouldn’t be allowed back and I’m far from right wing.

Yes she was groomed as a child and if she’d have expressed regret and remorse I would say give her a second chance. However, she says she doesn’t regret it and that she’s desensitised to beheadings. This tells me she’s still a threat and will train her child to harm infidels also.

She’s of zero benefit to this country only negatives. Leave her there.

I can't get her comment that she was not fazed by seeing the heads of executed prisoners in a bucket!

I meant can't get it out of my head.

Other young people who commit crimes are held accountable for their actions aren't they? Why would she be different?

I agree with the MP who said that if she can get to an embassy she will be returned to Britain. Hopefully then due process will follow but why should anyone risk their life to extricate her from the situation that she chose to be in?

People seriously injured on holiday without insurance aren't helped to get home by our government so why on earth is she different?

Don't think she should come back. She is a traitor.

What about all the Syrian women in camps and their dc.

There is a good thread on twitter about this, here: mobile.twitter.com/ShirazMaher/status/1095985803866578946

As for her not showing remorse/ having no regrets, at least I suppose she is honest. (Although it could be a lie - teenage bravado or stubborn refusal to admit being wrong?). As the thread linked above says, many others are showing remorse but this should be taken with a large pinch of salt (and imo most likely just a self-preservation tactic).

It may be the reason that she got pregnant as she thought it would give her an easy in, back into the U.K. The baby should be bought back- she should stay there.

She's in a refugee camp so hopefully will have some type of maternity care. The baby couldn't be in the U.K. without its mother and to me she appears very dangerous still. Either way she will be in prison for some time so without her child then.

It's terribly sad, OP. I understand your point of view. BUT...
I don't think she should be welcome back into this country at all, given her total lack of remorse. It is tragic about her other two children. And here she is, pregnant again.

The thing is, she doesn't care about your babies or my babies or the babies who've died on account of her actions and the terrorists around her. She is a threat. She is a bad person with a capacity to teach her unborn child total hatred as soon as he/she can understand. This will happen on whatever soil that child is born upon.
I am sad that her unborn child will, if it lives, grow into a hate-filled jihadist with malevolent intentions, like mother, like father.
No country deserves that. No society needs her or her ilk. Not Syrians. Not us. Nobody.
I don't want her back here. I don't want her over there either.

This little ploy has been around for centuries. It used to be known as ‘pleading your belly’ and was used as a last-ditch way to avoid the gallows. The phrase may have changed, the punishment may have changed - the ploy hasn’t. Pregnancy is very convenient when you need to play the sympathy card . The OP’s post proves this.

Who cares? I’m sorry but the fact she was 15 means nothing. At 15 I wasn’t stupid enough to run off to a situation like that and so are many millions of others!

We need to start making a stand against allowing people into the country who mean us harm.

How many Syrian women and their infants were denied proper maternity and antenatal care because Shamima and her mates fancied playing at terrorists in their gap year? How many Syrian children have died, been displaced, tortured, orphaned, denied healthcare and lost out on education? How many girls have been raped and enslaved by her chums and seen their mothers and fathers and brothers and children slaughtered in front of them? How many women have been forced to bear their rapists babies?

Fuck her, fuck her kid. Even if she lost 10,000 infants she still wouldn’t have come anywhere close to the pain she’s inflicted on others.

No I have ‘t But she has said she has no regrets about what she has done and wants free healthcare etc just because of the baby. She chose to go, chose to stay, lost two other children, does not deserve to come here

She is unfazed at seeing heads in bins and I an unfazed about her plight. I will save my sympathy for someone who deserves it.

Someone upthread said 'oh but she was groomed' and compared her to the Rotherham and other victims. That is an insulting comparison. The victims of the sex trafficking gangs were victims. They were subject to repeated gang rape, sex trafficking and drug addictions. In what way are they comparable to someone who wilfully left the country and participated in the atrocities of ISIS?

If the baby has a legal claim on Britain, then I hope he/ she can be relocated here for fostering at the earliest, but the actual woman herself would need to be in life imprisonment, so what's the point.

How could anyone overlook the fact that she's pregnant? It's all that's being talked about and what she's trading on.

I would like to know how and why she would be "helped" back to Britain if she makes it to an Embassy in a neighbouring country though. a) Who pays for her flight. b) Why should anyone pay for her flight. c) Which airline will lift its strict regulations about transporting women in late pregnancy.

In fact, the more I read and see (on TV) about some people supporting her return, the angrier I feel about it.