To think everyone saying Shamima Begum should rot in Syria have completely overlooked the fact that she is pregnant

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Just that really. She did a terrible thing going to Syria to marry an ISIS fighter. But she was only 15 and probably incredibly naive. She has already lost two children, one as a complication of malnutrition. And the child she is pregnant with has done nothing wrong. Surely we shouldn't leave him or her there to die too?

SDTG My thoughts exactly.

What about every other pregnant woman in Syria? Or in the world? Who are trapped in war-torn countries with no escape, but haven't helped contribute to that destruction?

She'd be pretty far down my list of people to help.

Her baby is her responsibility.

OP, wouldn't your response then be to allow all pregnant women in self created dire situations into the country by virtue of the fact that their baby is not at fault of anything? She is no more British now than any other pregnant woman is. She is a threat to the country and she has chosen to have children. Unless you are suggesting that we remove her baby from her then I'm not sure what you want? To welcome home a terrorist who openly supports IS just because she is carrying an innocent child? The poor child's future is doomed simply by being the child of terrorists.

I’ve not overlooked it neither and I still want her to rot there

not really she made her bed-not our problem

I have little sympathy for her situation I'm afraid, she has expressed no regrets, and has said that she has only really become disillusioned because ISIS were killing and torturing muslims too, she didn't give a shit about anyone else, but now expects the UK to give a shit about her.

I am sorry for her child and those she lost but I am more sorry for the children and adults at the Ariana Grande concert who were murdered by a supporter of ISIS. A group this woman has deliberately chosen to support and she has no remorse for her actions. She just wants it all her own way.

I think they should bring her back and throw her in prison for life. Her baby should be removed and be put up for adoption upon birth. I don’t think the family should be allowed contact either as they allowed a 15 year old in their care to become radicalised and travel to Syria.

If she is not remorseful, she should be prosecuted in the UK and then deported to Syria. The fact she will have a child in the UK makes her more dangerous to British interests than if she came back alone.

She is back only because life is too harsh in Syria. Boo hoo.

The results of a TV poll earlier, showed 93% of people asked saying that no, she shouldn't be allowed back.

No one is saying she’s not allowed back. She’s a British citizen & can return whenever she likes.

The issue is whether lives should be risked going in and extracting her from Syria. The prevailing thought is “no”. And I agree.

She needs to get herself out, probably via Turkey. As a minister said, “Actions have consequences” and she’s going to have to face that.

Who cares if she’s pregnant? Her problem, nobody else’s.

The child isn’t automatically a British citizen AFAIK so no more entitled to be here than any other baby born in Syria, regardless of circumstances.

If she comes back to the uk she will undoubtedly be placed in jail and the child removed.

She is a British citizen, she is entitled to return. It doesn’t bother me and her baby has the right to be born safely on the NHS too.

She should stay where she is. Imo people that go out there like she did should lose any right to britsh citizenship. If it’s so fucking fantastic out there with them scum bags why does she want to come back anyway?

Ok so she’s pregnant, well she was stupid enough to get pregnant. Let’s face it she hasn’t given a fuck about the life that child would have, she doesn’t care so why would I?

Make your bed, well now she could be made to lie in it

I gathered from what I read that the reason she wanted to return to the UK was because her two previous children died and she wants better medical care for this next one You'd think that she'd accept it as Allah's will

Fuck her

A few months ago she was walking round raqqa with fucking heads of unbelievers on poles and that wasn't a good enough reason to leave?

I don’t think there should be any military effort to return her. If she gets here by her own steam then fine but she should be arrested and should not be allowed to bring up the baby. She is a danger but she would also be a danger for radicalising the child.

So if your concern is for the child OP, perhaps she should give birth in a British military hospital, the child be taken into care, and she be returned to the camp.

And who says she hasn't fallen pregnant to dampen any suspicions about her returning? She could be trying to come back to radicalise hundreds.

Fuck that for a game of soldiers. She made her bed. I feel sorry for her baby but not her.

The thing that puzzles me is that now she is asking for help, she appears with her face uncovered and all glossy for the TV cameras, yet she’s been supporting a regime that forces women to cover up, on pain of flogging or worse.
Does she really think people are so daft as to fall for it?

Mumsnet makes me laugh sometimes. On a weekly basis there is a benefit bashing thread, where people say that they shouldn’t have children, it’s ‘us’ that’s paying for them and so on.

Now a terrorist wants to come back to the U.K. and people are saying ahh bless her she’s pregnant even though she still supports IS! If she comes back how much money from our underfunded resources will it cost to monitor her? How much for her protection? Someone is bound to attack her! How much in benefits is she going to cost because she’s never going to get a job.

She knew what she was going out to. Isis was all over the news at the time. There was now way anyone could cover it up and make it look like it was all going to be unicorns and roses.

My sympathy lies with the other pregnant women who are currently in refugee camps across the world through no fault of there own. Think of that little boy who was found washed up on the shore of Kos. As far as I’m concerned she can rot.

"I am sorry for her child and those she lost but I am more sorry for the children and adults at the Ariana Grande concert who were murdered by a supporter of ISIS."

Really? Her dead children are just as much victims of IS.

Personally, I think she should be allowed back in to the UK. That doesn't mean she should be allowed to carry on as if nothing had happened though arrest, investigation, possibility of imprisonment, alongside psychological support as her seeming lack of remorse may be due to mental illness given the things that have happened to her. I also wonder if she doesnt feel safe to speak out against IS and her choices. Whatever the truth about her situation the baby deserves a chance and should, probably, be adopted.