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AIBU to expect DH to shoulder some childcare responsibilities?

243 replies

Aeonium · 06/02/2019 23:29

DH is quite senior in his industry. I worked in the public sector before DC so while I worked equally long hours I only earned a third of his salary. I want to return to work but it’s impossible for both of us to work those hours. Someone has to take DC to preschool and hospital appts and be home to cook tea ect.

The suggestion of equal parenting went down like a lead balloon. He leaves too early and gets back too late to do school runs. There’s no way he can take time off if DC has the voms or whatever. His regular overnight stays at the London office are non negotiable. There’s no way he’ll consider a less senior position that gives him more family time because he’s worked hard to get where he is and he won’t throw it away. He expects me to do everything and if that means I can’t get a job it’s tough. He suggested I should start “a little business” during school hours so I can work flexibly and fit around DC.

I can’t see a business thriving if I can’t dedicate long hours. The business might not turn a profit for a long time so wouldn’t cover the cost of wraparound care. I can’t go back to my previous job because the workload is too heavy to be compatible with sole childcare, I’d need support from DH that isn’t forthcoming. Plus I don’t want to be a mum with a hobby business for pocket money! I’m painfully aware that not returning to work makes me vulnerable in the long term if our marriage ends. I can see the logic of the higher earner being dedicated to his job but it leaves me in the shit.

AIBU to think it’s unacceptable for him to just say nope I’m not available for any childcare and leave me to pick up the slack? I don’t know what the solution is here. If he won’t do the necessary for DC that leaves me on the hook whether I want to be or not.

OP posts:
Aeonium · 07/02/2019 09:25

InfiniteCurve I’d like us both to work at hours that allow us both to do childcare. DH says no. It isn’t overwhelmingly important to the family that his career isn’t interrupted. It’s just important to him and nobody else matters.

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AlexaShutUp · 07/02/2019 09:26

What do you do when your faced with that sort of point blank refusal!

Honestly speaking, I don't think I could stay in a relationship with someone who showed me so little respect, and who considered his own wants to be so much more important than mine.

DropOffArtiste · 07/02/2019 09:27

How did you get to the situation where he feels he can call the shots? Is he like this in other areas of your relationship?

The DC/work situation can be managed but it needs you to be a partnership and it sounds like he is refusing to consider you an equal partner in your relationship.

CountessVonBoobs · 07/02/2019 09:27

many if not most women would be over the moon to 'only' have to look for pt work or being able to sah thanks to a hard working husband who can support the whole family.

The OP is not over the moon. She wants to work. What relevance does it have to her if some women would be "over the moon" about it? Should she happily eat peas even though she hates them and be very grateful for them just because they're some women's favourite food?

And I really doubt that many bright, driven, career-oriented women would be "over the moon" about having a husband who is so dismissive and patronising about their wants, their work, and the need to participate in their family.

I also don't really buy that he "can't" help with childcare. He just doesn't want to. If he is senior enough to be very highly paid and important, he has tremendous value to his company, and potential value to other companies. He could leverage that by a) finding a job somewhere else, b) negotiating some flexibility. This I Am So Important I Must Work All Hours thing is self-importance (and being crap at delegating).

Aeonium · 07/02/2019 09:28

AlexaShutUp he sees it as me being selfish because I’d make him step down from his career and reduce our total income just so I can feel “fulfilled” and go to work.

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CostanzaG · 07/02/2019 09:29

He sounds vile. Why does he get to decide what time you should up by?
I'm off work today and DH spent ages this morning trying to convince out 4 year old to let me have a lie in....... he would never tell me I should be up at a certain time!

DropOffArtiste · 07/02/2019 09:30

He's told you that he is prioritising his career over your marriage and your children. That's the clear message.

You need to consider your next move from the options available which seem to be -

  1. continue to be a SAHP, with all the financial risks and sacrifices that entails
  2. Find some flexible work and juggle all childcare/domestic responsibilities yourself plus lots of resentment
  3. Leave him
Quartz2208 · 07/02/2019 09:31

so you completely sacrifice your career- does he get that at all

CountessVonBoobs · 07/02/2019 09:31

Why doesn't he look for another job with less punishing hours and travel, where he'd have room as part of negotiations to establish more flexible expectations? Is his company the only company that does what he does? (I'm doubting it.)

YANBU to be massively pissed off OP.

Aeonium · 07/02/2019 09:31

DropOffArtiste he’s always earned more than me and I’ve picked up the slack in terms of chores ect. But now there’s too much slack for me to pick up without essentially giving up working in any serious sense.

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swingofthings · 07/02/2019 09:31

I want to go back to work but I don’t feel I can do it on a single parent basis where I’m still responsible for all nights and sickness and organising childcare
Of course you can. Sickness is not an expert common occurrence, nor night's and he can help with this.

Are you sure you are not more bothered about his success and lack of yours at the moment? You can go for it and see it goes. He might be in a better position to be involved in a year's time and support you.

Just go for it.

BarbarianMum · 07/02/2019 09:32

Only read the OP

Our situation was very similar a few years ago. I'd been a SAHM (by choice) when dc were little but then wanted to go back to work part time.Dh was initially v resistant to the idea of picking up some parenting duties to facilitate this. After a few quite heated discussions it boiled down to the fact that he had 3 choices:
-step up within his current job
-change jobs to allow him to step up

  • get divorced

He chose the first option and surprise, surprise his work was fine about him occasionally flexing his hours, working from home on a Thurs (this is the day I do a long day at work), taking the occasional day off if a child is sick (we share this). Previously he was adament that this was impossible for someone in such a senior role but of course the mothers in similar roles had been doing this all along! He also gets up early every morning to do packed lunches and does tjjngs like cooks the next day's meal in the evenings.

He still does nights away etc and I still do the bulk of the parenting but I can and do work and, importantly, it feels like we are a team and I don't resent him.

swingofthings · 07/02/2019 09:33

I've had a career, including promotions being a single mum to two children and no help at all. It's tough and stressful but it is certainly possible.

CountessVonBoobs · 07/02/2019 09:35

Aeonium, it seems to me like he's using the word "selfish" to shut you up. What if you owned it? "Yes, that's right. I'm selfish. I want to go back to work. I want to be fulfilled. My fulfilment is important. I AM IMPORTANT."

He's using bullshit sexist narratives to keep you in your place under the figleaf of it being "terrible" for a woman to be selfish and of course his work is All For You and a Noble Manly Responsibility. Why shouldn't you be selfish? Why shouldn't you want fulfilment? You matter. He's sure as hell selfish. He's putting his own fulfilment very high on the list. If he wants a compliant little SAH wifey, he's going to have to look elsewhere for one.

Aeonium · 07/02/2019 09:36

swingofthings I’m woken up like 5 times a night every night. I don’t want to be solely responsible for this any more, it’s crap.

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DropOffArtiste · 07/02/2019 09:37

How old are your children?

Quartz2208 · 07/02/2019 09:38

Agree with Countess that is what you need to say

You need to say yes I am being selfish but so are you - career fulfillment is important to both of us so we need to figure out how to make it work together - otherwise there is no together in this. We are either a team or we are not.

Aeonium · 07/02/2019 09:38

Yes it is possible to have a career as a single mum but I’m not a single mum? So why should I have the hardship of coping like one?

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Quartz2208 · 07/02/2019 09:39

and he can start doing some night feeds and look after his child on his own. Say your bit and then arrange for him to do more. Then go away with your son for a few days to get him to truly think about what is important to him his career or his family career balance

combatbarbie · 07/02/2019 09:40

He can shoulder the responsibility.... financially. ... if he's so important. Get a nanny or au pair OP

CountessVonBoobs · 07/02/2019 09:47

To be clear, if OP has kids young enough to be preschool, she needs a nanny and not an au pair, unless the au pair is literally just doing nursery wraparound. All day care of under-4s is the territory of a nanny, and if there are 2 or more preschool children a nanny might well work out equivalent or slightly cheaper than 2 x full time nursery plus au pair.

DropOffArtiste · 07/02/2019 09:49

It is easier to be a single parent than married to someone with so little respect for you.

Windgate · 07/02/2019 09:53

He won't 'step up', he has no respect for you and no wish to parent.

Stompythedinosaur · 07/02/2019 10:09

You are 100% not being unreasonable. He does not sound like a loving partner or father. You have as much right to work, to be valued, and to be fulfilled as he does.

He is at home at night, so he needs to take a share of the night waking.

He can take time off for childcare. It might impact his career, but he can. It is fair the share the impact of parenthood rather than you havi g to bear all the impact.

I think you might need to try some relationship counselling. He sounds like he wants to opt out of the family, with no appreciation for how you have allowed him to gain his current position by looking after his children. He sounds like a dick tbh.

SequinsDress · 07/02/2019 10:30

Crazy generalisation about part time work and lack of promotion/career progression!

I'm part time and have been promoted since returning on reduced hours (I was also pregnant again at the time), and been head hunted by another department too. Actually I have been promoted twice since I got pregnant with DC1 (2.5). I work in a technical, challenging role. The idea that part time work cannot be a career is quite short-sighted.

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