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AIBU?

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AIBU to expect DH to shoulder some childcare responsibilities?

243 replies

Aeonium · 06/02/2019 23:29

DH is quite senior in his industry. I worked in the public sector before DC so while I worked equally long hours I only earned a third of his salary. I want to return to work but it’s impossible for both of us to work those hours. Someone has to take DC to preschool and hospital appts and be home to cook tea ect.

The suggestion of equal parenting went down like a lead balloon. He leaves too early and gets back too late to do school runs. There’s no way he can take time off if DC has the voms or whatever. His regular overnight stays at the London office are non negotiable. There’s no way he’ll consider a less senior position that gives him more family time because he’s worked hard to get where he is and he won’t throw it away. He expects me to do everything and if that means I can’t get a job it’s tough. He suggested I should start “a little business” during school hours so I can work flexibly and fit around DC.

I can’t see a business thriving if I can’t dedicate long hours. The business might not turn a profit for a long time so wouldn’t cover the cost of wraparound care. I can’t go back to my previous job because the workload is too heavy to be compatible with sole childcare, I’d need support from DH that isn’t forthcoming. Plus I don’t want to be a mum with a hobby business for pocket money! I’m painfully aware that not returning to work makes me vulnerable in the long term if our marriage ends. I can see the logic of the higher earner being dedicated to his job but it leaves me in the shit.

AIBU to think it’s unacceptable for him to just say nope I’m not available for any childcare and leave me to pick up the slack? I don’t know what the solution is here. If he won’t do the necessary for DC that leaves me on the hook whether I want to be or not.

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Coyoacan · 07/02/2019 17:02

Sorry op but you are pretty much stuck with this unless you leave him and find somebody else!

Why does OP need to find someone else?

InionEile · 07/02/2019 17:26

It's great you are getting so much support on here, Aeonium. I'm in a similar situation and have considered writing AIBUs a million times to figure out what I'm going to do but was worried I'd get flamed for being a selfish cow who isn't happy to give up her career to support her family for years.

It's the guilt that gets to me. DH earns great money and it has afforded us a good lifestyle but that has very much come at my expense as I have to be the default parent 24-7. He travels a lot, works 7-7 as does your DH and I have to pick up all of the parenting slack. Most of my friends who work either PT or FT have supportive DHs who do their fair share with the DC or they have other family around who help with school pick ups and sick days and that's the only way they can manage.

It's a depressing state of affairs. I have tried to keep my brain alive since the DC (now 4 and 7) were born with online courses, volunteer work and freelance work here and there but it has really worn away at my self-esteem to be a SAHM when it's not what I wanted out of life. Worse, is that almost everyone assumes that this is what I want. A colleague of DH's even said, 'it's great your DW stays home, most women want to be home with their kids really, don' they?' Angry

There is an assumption out there that the SAHM life of a high earner is what most women want and it infuriates me. I didn't want this life at all and would much rather be working in my own right with a successful career but DH's career took over and without wraparound childcare where my DC never see us Mon-Fri, dual careers are impossible.

Luckily my DH sees how frustrated I am after we had some very frank discussions last year. I confronted him with how frustrated I felt at how little parenting he does and I told him, frankly, that if we divorced I'd be better off because I would get enough child support to cover childcare costs so I can work and at least 2 weekends a month child-free whereas in our situation at the time I never got any time away from DC. This shook him up and he agreed to pay for more childcare for DC and I went away for a couple of long weekends leaving him to parent solo. That straightened out his attitude and he began to step up more and I can honestly say it saved our marriage.

Nothing's perfect but right now I'm applying to postgraduate programmes to retrain into a new career and hopefully will be back working full-time in the next 12-18 months.

It's hard to be forced to give up on your own ambitions for a selfish DH who doesn't appreciate what you do. One thing I would say is that you need to have a frank conversation with him and tell him that you are frustrated - be upfront and don't shy away from threatening divorce if things don't change. He needs you as much as you need him even though he can't see that.

BoomBoomsCousin · 07/02/2019 18:01

He said why would I give up a well paid job that supports DC, you’re just annoyed because I won’t pay you for looking after your own child. You’re his mother, you don’t get paid for looking after him, just like I don’t get paid when I take him to soft play at the weekend.

This isn't what you're annoyed at though is it. You're annoyed that you don't have the opportunity to pursue a fulfilling career and improve your and your family's financial resilience because he is pushing off most of his responsibilities onto you. From what you are saying, if you could get paid for being a SAHM it's still not what you would choose to do for yourself.

I think you need to argue with him more, at least for now, because the other options are brinkmanship. And brinkmanship often involves losing more than you want to. In the end, though I agree with those that say this is worth breaking up over.

On the brinkmanship front, if you really want to "win" on the power stakes, you have to be prepared to leave him with the kids and be the every-other-weekend-one-night-a-week parent. Then you'd have plenty of time to pursue a career and he would have deal with the day-to-day. Most mothers won't contemplate that (one of the reasons we, as a class, end up worse off overall is because we absorb so much male indifference towards children).

Stompythedinosaur · 07/02/2019 18:42

I'd rather cope on my own than put up with his dickhead attitude.

What a knob.

By the time he realises that he has sacrificed his relationship with his dc it will be too late.

Really angry for you.

cheminotte · 07/02/2019 19:22

So if he can’t possibly get up in the night due to his motorway drive in the morning, I assume he does all the wakings in Friday and Saturday?

umberellaonesie · 07/02/2019 19:41

You both need to think of it as family income (all the money coming into the household)
You both working generates a family income which a proportion of pays for mortgage, heat food and childcare.
If the proportion of family income which goes to the mortgage is too much you would downsize, if the proportion of family income which goes to heating is too much you would change supplier and turn the heating down, etc etc. If the proportion of family income needed for childcare is to big you rethink if it would better for some one to stay home.
Your salary would be a contribution which made the whole lot bigger so it is always worth it.

umberellaonesie · 07/02/2019 19:52

I see it is more his attitude that is the issue.
I actually have no advice. I couldn't be in a partnership with someone who had so little respect for me. He doesn't realise that he is in a partnership.

birdsdestiny · 07/02/2019 19:52

What type of work is he in? Dh. is in a senior position, earns a billion times more than me. He does half of school runs, and has great flexibility. In his job not physicallyGrin. I have shared offices with men who had absolutely no need to do the hours they did in the office, they were hiding and some were honest enough to admit it. I would be very careful op Flowers

Jux · 07/02/2019 21:32

Well, if he insists on treating you like a Kept Wife the BE a Kept Wife. Buy yourself whatever you would like on that card, spend heaps on lunches and gym membership and Bridge Club and Adult Ed at your local college, etc. Stop accommodating his unreasonableness, use it instead.

Get a char, find a pt childminder who'll look after ds when you have lunches or club meetings or classes.

Put it all on the card.

When he starts asking about it, tell him that you'd much rather work but you're not allowed to so you're keeping yourself sane another way.

Floralhousecoat · 07/02/2019 22:01

Agree fully with jux. You're being far far too accommodating and nice and reasonable frugal.

Why spend your birthday money on clothes? Use the card. Clothes. Hair appointments. Spa days. I bet when he sees the bills mounting up with your mindless shopping he begs you to go back to work.

MsTSwift · 08/02/2019 08:52

Dh got quite upset when I had issues spending money on myself when I was sahm. His view was we are a team he could only earn as I was doing the kids / house the money he earnt was our money.

lovefriday · 08/02/2019 09:08

I get it. A situation only works whilst everyone is happy to carry on doing it...

Can you get some career counselling and figure out your next move? DH will have to step up, or you leave him.

A small step such as this could leave you feeling empowered and open to new possibilities.

Obviously - you should sharing night waking at weekends and money equally. Agree that you need some time away from the DC at a weekend to recharge. You sound exhausted.

Did I miss the children's ages??!

reallybadidea · 08/02/2019 09:13

Your marriage sounds awful. I'm sorry, it does. I couldn't live like that. I wonder whether it might be worth making an appointment with a solicitor to see what you'd be entitled to if when you split up. Pay cash so that he doesn't know. Perhaps that might focus his mind a bit? Maybe couple's therapy to see whether you can work through this?

Otherwise I think your only other options are:

  1. Put up with it
  2. Bide your time until the children are older and you have the energy to go back to work.

Your mum might be right that he'd be difficult over contact, but that might still be the better option than living with someone who has so little respect for you. He doesn't cherish you, does he? He's the most important person in this relationship - in the whole family actually. I've noticed that this often happens to men when they get promoted. Ugh.

Belenus · 08/02/2019 10:05

If you're having problems getting hold of cash OP you can probably take it out on the credit card. Generally they sting you for a high interest rate on cash withdrawals, but that's his problem, not yours.

MsTSwift · 08/02/2019 12:45

Being prevented from working then not given ready access to money is pretty fucking outrageous

Loopytiles · 08/02/2019 13:38

Financial abuse.

Aridane · 08/02/2019 14:17

*You need to consider your next move from the options available which seem to be -

  1. continue to be a SAHP, with all the financial risks and sacrifices that entails
  2. Find some flexible work and juggle all childcare/domestic responsibilities yourself plus lots of resentment
  3. Leave him*

Option 4. Buy in childcare

SunnyCoco · 09/02/2019 19:43

It sounds like you only have one child am I right? You are avoiding all the questions about how old.he is and what the sleep issue is, perhaps we can help if you can share some more about this? When you have better sleep you will feel more able to take this on

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