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To agree with Donald tusk there is a place in hell for brexiters

410 replies

Tooldemont · 06/02/2019 18:46

All the ones that aranged for brexit without any clear plan can go to hell as far as I'm concerned. That's why we are in such a mess now!

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QueenieInFrance · 08/02/2019 07:57

When children don't get their own way, they have a tantrum.

That's what adults who voted remain are doing.

Atm it’s Leavers that I see having a tantrum because someone dare saying something ‘not very nice’.
It’s like being back in the playground at primary school. ‘Miss, Miss, he said something mean’

Seriously, the country voted for Leave. What are the Leave plans for the country?
Are we aiming for No Deal, A Deal, a Norway style Deal? It seems LEAVERS haven’t managed to agree that between them yet.
So please don’t say it’s the Remainers fault when you can’t agree on the basics.

(Unless the issue is that Leavers actually have a small majority and each faction of the vote Leave has no majority at all. Which means they need the Remainers on board to support them.....)

Moussemoose · 08/02/2019 07:57

scaryteacher

The EU is a federalising project designed to get rid of the nation state and centralise power

Federalism is about decentralising power. One of they key EU beliefs is subsidiarity.

Federalism is the opposite of a unified central government.

Please use these terms correctly.

MissionItsPossible · 08/02/2019 07:59

But I sort of thought that "Mumsnet" was a bit more serious than that.

You don’t have to “quote” Mumsnet, it does exist, it’s not an opinion or something questionable Confused

trancepants · 08/02/2019 07:59

To everyone wishing to move to Ireland...Doctors appointment £55.00 (every time)....Antibiotics prescription £65.00 (every time)

Um, nope. For about half the population (under 6s, medical card and GP visit card holders) GP visits are free. Anyone with a medical card pays €2 per prescription item. For everyone else under the drug payment scheme, the maximum prescription amount a family will pay is €134pm (reduced to €124pm from April). Not as good as the NHS by any means. But consider that non means tested child benefit is €140pm each for the first two children, €167pm for a third, €177 for a fourth+ (and significantly more for twins and triplets). And it kind of evens out.

Then you consider that people from lower income families get completely free third level education plus a non-repayable grant, while everyone else is highly subsidised. The property tax is generally far lower than council tax, no water charges, extremely generous social welfare system, etc.

Ireland is no utopia by any means and the health service leaves a lot to be desired. But having lived in England, Wales and Ireland, Ireland is in many ways the country it's the easiest to be secure in because the social safety net is one of the best in the world. And it certainly has much, much greater social mobility and a far, far healthier democracy. Two things which are undoubtedly intertwined.

Rufusthebewilderedreindeer · 08/02/2019 08:03

That's what adults who voted remain are doing

Very silly comment

What was it 16+ million people voted remain

And they are all throwing a tantrum? Talk about exaggeration

Or is it just remainers who liked tusks comment?

Or remainers that are on brexit threads?

BiglyBadgers · 08/02/2019 08:07

Or is it just remainers who liked tusks comment?

Or remainers that are on brexit threads?

I think it's just those pesky remainers who would like to live in a functioning economy.

Motheroffourdragons · 08/02/2019 08:08

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frumpety · 08/02/2019 08:19

It doesn't make sense.

^ Brexit in a nutshell^ Grin

careerchange456 · 08/02/2019 08:35

Exactly my experience as well mother

Rufusthebewilderedreindeer · 08/02/2019 08:40

I think it's just those pesky remainers who would like to live in a functioning economy

Oooohhhhhh THOSE remainers!!

I getcha Wink

BorisBogtrotter · 08/02/2019 09:02

"we have been trying to refrom the EU for decades from the inside, and it has not made any discernable difference to theri direction of travel."

Anyone who believes this is an idiot.

The single market? British idea, shaped by British economists and Thatcher.

There are all sorts of other examples.

It makes any opinion held by this person easy to dismiss.

BorisBogtrotter · 08/02/2019 09:04

Also, people talking about remainers having a tantrum are utter hypocrites.

The leave side campaigned on their point for 41 years, they had political parties of their own with leaving as a single political goal and little or no other policies.

It also shows that they don't really believe in democracy, but are using the referendum like tyrants always do, to silence others.

rosie39forever · 08/02/2019 09:07

387 messages in and still not one positive thing that we should look forward to! Seriously brexiters is the penny not dropping yet (emits a rage and despIr filled sigh)

LadyKalila · 08/02/2019 09:16

Penny dropped when all the leavers carried on bleating.

Christ anyone would think the world was ending.

NonExistentFox · 08/02/2019 09:51

Has anyone said that they're a little bit in love with Donald Tusk yet? Because I am. If/when we actually leave he'll cry.

TheElementsSong · 08/02/2019 09:52

What, still no link to the 500-page Brexit White Paper that we so so triumphantly "reminded" about? Where has that poster gone? Grin

(Do people "like" my "quotation" "marks"?)

Rufusthebewilderedreindeer · 08/02/2019 10:09

"I" "love" "your" "quotation" "marks" the elements

prettybird · 08/02/2019 10:10

I did Elements Grin

Don't you realise that we are "hateful" in asking repeatedly for the "link" to that 500 page "White Paper", despite being very "helpful" and providing links to the "actual" White Papers? Wink

Rufusthebewilderedreindeer · 08/02/2019 10:14

Hateful for liking tusks comment Sad

Will it make it worse if i say that i thought the "lucifer" comment was really funny?

TheElementsSong · 08/02/2019 10:16

"You" all are "great" Grin but what a "shame" there's still no link to the 500-page Brexit White Paper from the poster who "reminded" us of this "trump card" Grin and has "disappeared".

borntobequiet · 08/02/2019 10:20

“Quotation” person should try a good “towel washing”/“shoes in house”/“horrible teacher” thread if he wants to see “genuine” unpleasantness. Or “most topics” in “AIBU”, really.
Dining loads of quotation marks is a “faff”, I’ve just realised.

Bubastes · 08/02/2019 10:29

That “person” was holding forth on the “matter of Brexit” on another “thread” and I did remind them that they’d “forgotten” to provide links to said “500 page Brexit White Paper”. But they “didn’t reply”.

I was “unsurprised”.

Rufusthebewilderedreindeer · 08/02/2019 10:30

born

It is isnt it

I only persevered because i love theelements

borntobequiet · 08/02/2019 10:32

Dining? “Doing”!

derxa · 08/02/2019 10:46

387 messages in and still not one positive thing that we should look forward to! Seriously brexiters is the penny not dropping yet (emits a rage and despIr filled sigh) I'm not a brexiteer but we'll be coming out of the CAP and large landowners will not be getting the large subsidies they got before.

blogs.lse.ac.uk/brexit/2017/05/26/britains-farmers-get-3bn-a-year-from-the-inefficient-cap-that-has-to-change/

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