"Why do people assume fag ends would be dropped." Because most smokers do this. Great that you don't, but most do. I've been in jobs where cleaning up fag butts, ash even phlegm etc was unfortunately part of the role (wouldn't be now due to smoking ban), it's a horrible disgusting thing to have to deal with and most smokers are ime completely thoughtless about their detritus. Even when there's bins provided they don't bloody use them! They burn/damage plants, furniture, wooden flooring with their thoughtless behaviour and are quite often completely unapologetic.
I married before the smoking ban, I'm a lifelong non smoker with 2 heavy smoker parents and I'm sure my asthma if not caused is certainly worse than it needed to be because of their smoking. At my wedding smokers didn't smoke near me because of the dress and lots of them knew about my asthma - my dress STILL ended up stinking and even after being cleaned twice still smelt. I had hoped to donate it but it really wasn't fit for it. I had to throw it out.
I was SO pleased when the smoking ban came in, made my life and I'm sure many other non smokers especially those with asthma etc much easier. I heard from friends of mine who are commercial cleaners it made their lives a touch more pleasant too!
The sooner this disgusting habit becomes completely socially unacceptable the better. Banning is tempting but would likely cause riots and increase smuggling etc. But govts around the world even ours are continually taking steps to discourage the habit.
Well done to your cousin, hope she has a great day.
"Thinking back to our wedding, of the 70 or so guests, none of them smoke now" that prompted me to think. Only 4 of those that were smokers at my wedding are still smokers. The rest have chosen or been forced to quit (that includes my parents, dad is now on oxygen it would be a major fire hazard for them to still be smoking. Both parents hugely regretful they ever started)
I do find it hard to understand anyone under say 50 being a smoker since by the time they were old enough to smoke the harm was well known. I DEFINITELY don't understand anyone under 30 doing so. The cost alone!!
"I think the no smoking at all on the grounds of a venue thing will become more common as smokers reduce in number and companies don't feel the need to provide facilities to keep the same income" yes now the economics are such that it costs them more to provide facilities, to accommodate smokers, than any reduction in revenue by offending them they'll become less and less accepting of it.
"Bold is expecting other people to pick up your skanky fag ends tbh" yep! Lazy and entitled too.
"As most people now hate smoking how do they feel about second hand e-cig and vape "smoke"."
Personally I think it's FAR too soon to declare these "safe" it took decades for the scientific community to prove and accept that not only was smoking directly responsible for certain ailments in smokers but also in passive smokers (I get why, scientists are reluctant to stare certainties without a lot of evidence) and we're only very recently starting to understand tertiary smoking and the effects/harm. Much of the harmful effects of smoking aren't immediately occurring/observable and I suspect it'll only be in the next 20/30/40 years that we'll really know if vaping is really "safe" particularly for passive exposure.
Certainly I've noticed certain "mixtures" set my asthma off.
"I vape & I've found that most places treat vaping just like smoking" I think that's as it should be.
"Obviously the anti-social culprits are not going to actually admit it in either case." So true! Nobody ever admits but SOMEBODY must be responsible. I've had smokers outright lie to my face that they were the ones that dropped that fag butt/stubbed it out on my employers furniture etc even when I've just bloody seen them do it!
"vaping is nothing but a dummy tit to suck on."
Yep! It's also very telling that many vaping products are made by...tobacco companies!
Also much of the research so far claiming vaping is safer is (and sometimes it's not immediately obvious you have to dig into the funding info) funded/carried out by the manufacturers.
"Oh for God's sake, people whinging about vaping are just being Puritans.
Its not harmful. It might not be what you'd choose , but it's momentary.
It's like a stream of someone else's music. Irritating but generally harmless, and unless you live a hermits life you have to let them get on with it." Yea, us asthmatics are just being whinging wimps right? Never mind that asthma kills and that LIVING really IS a human right!
"Don’t worry, Bluelady-we’ll save that money on council cleaning bills and NHS usage!" And not just the smokers needing Nhs treatment as a result of smoking either, but all those who would have been affected by secondary & tertiary smoke, plus all the working days lost to illness caused by smoking...