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Misogynistic Teen Boys

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livinginaweirdworld · 06/02/2019 10:59

I have name changed for this due to some outing details.

I work in an all boys school, these are very bright boys in a selective school. But the sexist and misogynistic words I hear coming from them even in year 7 and 8 absolutely astounds me.

I have spoken to them when I hear them speaking like this, but they literally dont give any fucks whatsoever.

I have done tutorials on these subjects, I have asked how they would feel if there mum or sister were spoken about like this and they still do not care.

I am talking about rape being banter (akin to the Warwick Uni students), calling a girl frigid as she wouldn't send nudes or give them a blow job. Saying they were going to dump a girl as she wouldn't take it up the arse. They also seem to think women in the workplace will always be inferior as they have to go off and make babies and leave the bosses and the men with the proper work.

The treat female members of staff with disdain and contempt. Admittedly some of them treat male members just as badly but nowhere near as many as the female staff.

Where is this attitude coming from? I would say a good 75% of the students here have this attitude. Not all of them can get that from poor parenting surely?

AIBU as a woman to want to take my 2 daughters and move to Mars to get away from this kind of society?

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Smotheroffive · 07/02/2019 19:23

Shizzle that's awful to have to face and deal with, so sorry its driven you out of a good job. Have you reported the school, and out of interest was it a private school or state? Did SLT listen to you or has it been ignored

Its time that a key measure of emotional intellect is registered at schools and headlined as essential criteria for assessment

zippey · 07/02/2019 19:30

@Wasp - Just seen a short thread on it. The university areninimising the punishment to the detriment of thier female students. The obviously don’t care about thier female students, saying recently that “gender is not up for debate”

MiniMum97 · 07/02/2019 19:30

God that is depressing. If the generation coming up is like that it feels like there is no hope attaining true equality at any time in the hear future!

Having said that my son (21) is not like that and him and all his friends are not like that either so maybe there is some hope!

Also children of that age are highly influenced by their parents views as they grow up and get more educated they do tend to change and firm their own opinions.

You may feel like you are pissing in the wind with the work you are doing to change hearts and minds but I find that the messages do seep in and consolidate the more they hear the message. If they weren't hearing it from anyone at all there would be no hope!

UpAndDown89 · 07/02/2019 19:34

It has little to do with social media, I had to put up with plenty of such “banter” growing up (in a middle class mixed school - continental Europe, not the UK, this shit is universal). Boys grabbing you, making jokes about rape, gangbangs etc. And they never got punished. But the teachers would never fail to pull the girls up if their skirts were too short. One girl was told her breasts were too big and they we’re distracting (note she was wearing a black jumper with no cleavage). Oh, and all these boys were very good in school and turned out with great careers etc. I honestly still get chills when I remember the stuff they used to say to us and how scared and confused it made us girls. And I sometimes think I hope I don’t have daughters because life just seems do much harder for them and it is getting worse, not better.

And no, girls didn’t make fun of boys who didn’t give them oral or make extreme jokes about raping them. Quite the contrary, most of us have had some experience doing things for boys we didn’t want to. Not the other way around.

To the poster who keeps denying this happens so often - please fuck off to your
mysoginistic la la land.

Smotheroffive · 07/02/2019 19:44

Disagree - it now in our society has a lot to do with SM. I've seen the hideous hideouts where this gross behaviour goes on unabated. In the current climate, in most environments publicly there is greater awareness bringing societal pressure to bear, but on SM in vast swathes of the internet and across platforms it grows . DC couldn't access porn readily, and now something like 40% of DC have seen online porn by the age of something like 11 yo! You can't tell me it has nothing to do with it, that and the fact that anal intercourse is now seemingly the norm, and if you're dry you simply get lube instead of not DTD or being with a partner that gives a shit how turned on and wanting of sex you are. There is no way that the porn industry does not have a huge impact on this because its so readily available now.

Girls should never ever have to contemplate or be exposed to this, nor growing boys either. Its so vile and toxic and needs to be stamped on exactly the same as racism, etc

madeyemoodysmum · 07/02/2019 20:31

Definitely Smotheriffive !!!

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