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AIBU to request a positive thread on Brexit?

703 replies

mobyduck · 28/01/2019 11:38

Everyone here (nearly) says it will be bad.
Let's hear some positives about our coming freedom from the EU!

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Stinkytoe · 28/01/2019 12:47

I can’t get my head around the people hoping for a property price crash. Can you not see that for that to happen our economy will also have to crash?

It’s also really unpleasant to hope for millions of hard working families to find themselves in negative equity and possibly homeless.

Hoppinggreen · 28/01/2019 12:48

We can keep our 3 pin plugs
( really wish I had made this up and it wasn’t something a Brexiteer actually said)

PortiaCastis · 28/01/2019 12:48

.......and as a type 1 diabetic no I don't see any positives in leaving the EU

findingmyfeet12 · 28/01/2019 12:49

Those were absolutely the reasons Thanos

It just goes to show that it was mainly the imbeciles who voted.

As a pp has stated, why do people think that their children will still have jobs and be able to buy themselves a cheap house?

noodlenosefraggle · 28/01/2019 12:49

The only good thing I can think of is that our politicians will now have to take responsibility for their own decisions, rather than blame decisions they made on the EU.
Another point I hadn't seen before is that the stalemate in politics at the moment has demonstrated the need for us to have a proper Head of State. A third party who can bang peoples heads together and make them compromise, rather than one who has no power or responsibility and doesn't really do anything apart from rubber stamp legislation. If we had a non political Head of State like the Irish President, maybe we wouldn't be in this mess. I'm not really a Republican. I like the Royals, but having a monarch in what should be an incredibly important political role has really not been much use to us at all.

Springmachine · 28/01/2019 12:50

Lots of businesses who deal with European countries are already seeing benefits happening on a small scale.

Uk manufacturing companies will find that their products increase in demand throughout Europe as it becomes more affordable to buy from England as it was pre-brexit.

JamPasty · 28/01/2019 12:51

Sarcasm alert:

I hate life-saving medicines. They will be harder to access come Brexit. This is a good thing.

user1471432735 · 28/01/2019 12:52

I lived in the USA in the late 2000’s when the housing market crashed... sure prices dropped but NOBODY could satisfy the banks criteria to get a mortgage because there was so much uncertainty.... except for the billionaires, who made a tidy profit buying cheap properties, renting them out then selling them when the market bounced back.

I hope the positive posters aren’t getting their hopes up the nice 3 bed detached semi around the corner will magically be for sale for $5000 with no other corresponding consequences

BorisBogtrotter · 28/01/2019 12:52

Leavers don't do themselves any favours.

Not knowing that the ECHR isn't part of the EU.

Praying for a house price crash not realizing that it benefits no one and hurts those at the bottom and lower middle worst.

BorisBogtrotter · 28/01/2019 12:55

"The only good thing I can think of is that our politicians will now have to take responsibility for their own decisions, rather than blame decisions they made on the EU. "

Nope all things will be blamed on the EU punishing us and the terrible deal that we got. The economic crash that comes because of it will be used for a decade or more to justify the most neo liberal policies of them all, a low regulation low tax economy, with low levels of state services.

HirplesWithHaggis · 28/01/2019 12:55

OK. Rationing may improve the health of the nation - if government nutritionists can get it right. The obesity crisis will be pretty much over. We won't be able to afford foreign holidays, so there will be far fewer air-polluting flights and no need for Terminal whateverthefuckitis. Seaside towns, currently often sadly neglected, will once more prosper, and if global warming gives us a few more hot summers we're all laughing. Traditional skills such as gardening for food, knitting, sewing, meal planning and cooking will be part of the school curriculum, so dc will learn where their food comes from - perhaps every school could keep a pig or two to be shared at slaughter time. Making do and mending will become popular again, reducing waste and landfill. Some members of our communities will shine as stars helping the less fortunate and supporting their neighbours. Plenty of opportunity for charitable works...

Is that positive enough?

Bluelady · 28/01/2019 12:56

Actually I personally have one: if there are food shortages I'll lose the extra couple of stone I'm carrying about. Seems a bit of a high price for the rest of the population to pay for my vanity, though.

Calvinsmam · 28/01/2019 12:56

People talking about house prices dropping, I’m going to say what I always say in these threads.

We don’t all live in the South East.

There are vast swathes of the UK who’s housing market haven’t recovered from the 2008 crash.
There are many many people living in poor areas who are STILL in negative equity after 10 years.
Another housing crash would be such a blow to these places.

TheyBuiltThePyramids · 28/01/2019 12:57

"And EU membership also hasn't helped tenants either. They still don't have security of tenure, still can be kicked out on a whim with 2 months notice, still have short tenancies, still can't decorate, still have to pay high rents for crap quality housing. How has being a member of the EU protected tenants rights or workers rights for that matter (EU hasn't stopped the Tories bringing in zero hours contracts)."

You know because of Sovereignty right? The EU doesn't control everything. We need to leave because they are bossing us around, and we need to leave because they aren't bossing us around enough?

CatnissEverdene · 28/01/2019 12:58

You won't get a positive answer on MN. They're all too busy emptying their cupboards and garages to fill with flour, tinned soup and baked beans, dried pasta and organic chocolate as we are all going to starve and die within the next 6 months. Oh and zombies will be walking the streets so best grab a few handy weapons too.

I'd try elsewhere, to be honest Hmm

joystir59 · 28/01/2019 12:59

Opportunities for people to write books like 'back garden vegetable growing' 'A hundred ways with swede' and such

LadyGAgain · 28/01/2019 12:59

Not voting = as equal shared responsibility for this fucking disaster as those who voted to leave.

Ihatemyseleffordoingthis · 28/01/2019 12:59

We'll have Taken Back Control though, won't that feel nice?

LadyGAgain · 28/01/2019 12:59

(Sorry positive spin. You contributed to the leavers winning)

Scandaloso · 28/01/2019 13:00

I can’t get my head around the people hoping for a property price crash. Can you not see that for that to happen our economy will also have to crash?

some people seem to think property crashes happen in a vacum rather than being something that goes hand in hand with a general recession and all the fallout that brings such as increased job losses.

Ihaventgottimeforthis · 28/01/2019 13:01

I have one, albeit one that comes with a LOT of provisos.

Our departure from the Common Agricultural Policy has prompted the development of a British Agriculture Bill which has a lot of potential for improving the sustainability, resilience and environmental impact of the farming sector.

The provisos are of course that we get a Deal, that the Bill is realised, that the framework & systems required to deliver the agri-environment schemes are effective, that we don't increase imports of low quality agricultural products, that domestic consumers increase their purchase of domestic produce etc etc.

userschmoozer · 28/01/2019 13:02

CatnissEverdene you don't have anything positive to contribute?

HirplesWithHaggis · 28/01/2019 13:02

And yes, Scottish independence. We can stop being a terrible drain on the rUK. Marvellous.

opiniongathering · 28/01/2019 13:02

So many statements lacking any kind of fact or statistical evidence.

I work in economics, we overall think Brexit is hugely positive to our economy. The housing market is not crashing in the slightest.
Prices are continuing to increase. The only slight decline seen in London which was over inflated anyway.

UK will now be able to use the money it contributed to the EU for its own benefit. It can now no longer need to enforce the Human Rights Act (this can be a hugely positive thing you just need to read into it and the negative effects we've suffered due to it).

We will no longer need to bail other countries out as they begin to fail. The euro will fail.
The pound will eventually strengthen
Tourism will continue to be high, we are already one of the best in the world.
We will have more say over how trading relationships are agreed, 50% of Britain's exports are to the EU.
We could reinvent our economy and it would be more Singapore-style

This all depends on the type of deal negotiated to leave, however.

LittleSpace · 28/01/2019 13:03

I might see a unicorn.