To go back to this house?

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We're trying to move house.

I hate where I live.

We've sold ours and found somewhere that we thought was perfect.

Got survey done, arranged removals, almost got to exchange etc. Then we went back for another viewing to measure up.

The vendor was starting to remove fixtures and fittings, things were broken and dirty.

We pulled out.

Since then, we have found nothing else. Nothing.

The vendor of that house put it back on the market and sold it last week.

Would it be even worth our time going back to them?

We could complete in a week and I know the vendor has already bought his new place so is paying two mortgages. He could move much more quickly with us than with his new buyers. Would that count?

I can't sleep for worrying about this. I'm in tears at thought of being trapped in our current home.

Help!

It sounds as though you are a black and white thinker. All or nothing and impetuous. Renting will give you the time to find what you are actually looking for. You don’t get your money back no, but it’s not the end of the world. You can afford it.

By all means go back to the buyer. But most importantly learn from this to control and challenge your thinking.

I can't see any way out here.

Had he not filled in the fixtures and fittings form? Was the kitchen photographed or described in the property details??

Yes the kitchen was included and photographed.

He was still taking it out. I suspected that's how the floor got damaged. He denied it all when I queried via the estate later.

He wouldn’t have legally been able to
Knock out an entire kitchen and complete the sale in that state- did you enquire at the time about what his plans were for the room?

Sorry op but you really can’t try on this house again with existing buyers. There’s not only 1 house out there, you sound in a strong position get out there viewing

No wonder your husband is annoyed with you. You sound a tad hysterical.

Ignore the house you lost. Let it go.

And then get over yourself and find somewhere to rent.

There's nothing to view- not on that estate that I can afford.

Not renting. DH would never agree to it.

The floor collapsed??? Ofcourse you did the right thing pulling out? .you would of been mad to buy it like that ,kitchen ripped out??no you have done the right thing.deep breaths and keep looking x

You're going round in circles here OP, everyone has given you the most logical advice and you're ignoring it all.

Seriously...there are other properties out there...it's sheer ignorance if you think that estate you're referring to is the only nice area you will find out there! Stop being hysterical, shit happens, move on.

Renting really isn’t dead money.

We sold our house and rented to make sure that the area was right for us, and to get into the school we wanted.
Now we know the best and worst bits of the town, we are just waiting until somewhere we like in the road we love comes up. Don’t let your misguided views on renting get in the way of what is a very good way out of your current situation.

Blowing all our savings on rent and two lots of moving costs is not logical.

We're going to TTC anyway though. Sod it.

How is he selling the house to a new purchaser with no kitchen?? It's bizarre!

You did the right thing to pull out. It was being damaged. I'd expect a working kitchen in a reasonable condition. Keep looking give yourself a month to look. I dont think four weeks is long for your buyers to wait.

Very cheaply.

Is he now selling it cheaper than he did to you?

I have no idea what state it's in now. I don't care. I just want it back.
You don't sound rational OP. The dead money argument doesn't apply - you are on the property ladder and will be again. You have a good income and savings. Chill!
The housing market is likely to be more stagnant while we wait for Brexit. Give us your county and requirements if you want MNers to send links to suitable houses.

You don't sound in the right place emotionally to be making big life changes. TTC with a man who is barely speaking to you?

Seeing a man pull out your kitchen and not even ask him why. That would be everyone's first question.

Thinking of jumping back to the dumped house without an ounce of thought for the new buyers. Ok, people do that - it's business - but not to even notice you'll be massively impacting others?

I did ask and he denied it- technical term is gaslighting I think.

This all sounds a bit strange. If he was taking the kitchen out against the terms on which you had agreed to buy it, I get that you would want to pull out of the whole thing, so I don't blame you there. But dirt etc you can surely just remove by getting professional cleaners in.

I don't see how you can be that trapped if you have over 100k savings. Renting is no more dead money than the large amounts of interest you pay on your mortgage. Renting for a year or two really makes no odds over a lifetime. Also, it means that you can sell your place now and then be in a perfect position to buy quickly as you won't be in a chain and will be more attractive than someone who is.

Also, if he has exchanged on his house, he wouldn't be able to pull out without financial penalties anyway, so why would he want to do that, given that you pulled out pre-contract before?

Now just stop. You’re not being even close to logical.

You won’t be blowing all your savings. Not even close.

You will be paying rent but it will be in place of mortgage payments you would otherwise have been making. That should be roughly neutral.

You would have had the costs of moving out of your owned property anyway. So that’s no extra.

What is an additional cost is the cost of moving out of rental, but even the most expensive movers (with packing and unpacking) are around the £5k mark for a four bedroom property. And you could do it much cheaper than that.

Plus, you’ll defer spending the bulk of your costs on purchase (most notably stamp duty).

Unless you move into a rented mansion there’s simply no possible way that you’ll spend your six-figure savings.

If you’re acting like this with your DH then I’m not surprised that he’s barely talking to you.

If the kitchen was on the property details he was on thin ice. Did you not see if it was included in the legal pack?

I actually think by pulling out you have seriously weakened your position even if he agrees to sell to you now. As the kitchen was assumed included (although that would have to be confirmed on the fixtures and fittings form) you would have been within your rights to get the kitchen reinstated and floor repaired post sale. If it wasn’t included in the legal pack, you would have been within your rights to get a reduction in price as it was included in the property details.

Now, however, you know the deal. So going back and expecting a price reduction is going to be tricky. So you’d probably have to take it as is at the original price - you’d need to speak to your solicitor on this one. The vendor sounds like a fool and totally unaware of current legislation, you haven’t been able to pull this sort of a fast one for several years.

As we are all saying you would be better to spend the 10k you would have spent on the kitchen on rent. Just complete the sale. You hate your current house. As you have an income in your own right, you can just find a suitable property and get your dh living there as a permitted adult but not joint tenancy.

Ah, so you only want to live on one estate.
Have you put flyers through the doors?
Roughly how many houses are on this estate?

Gazumping is nasty and immoral - though not illegal.

Also, even if he did accept your offer, you'll end up paying much more for the house without the kitchen than when you first offered.

Weird, but you'll deserve it after the gazumping.

I agree with all my ham namesake said upthread - black and white catastrophising thinking.

You sound like the stress of moving got to you a long time ago.

Maybe take some time out, get your head straight.

Don't move to a house just because you want to get out of your current one. You will find another house. What makes you trapped? Also I wouldn't trust you so I'm not sure how far you would get with the vendor.

Then we went back for another viewing to measure up.

You were physically there. How can he deny if you had photos of the kitchen ripped out and a collapsed floor?