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To have concerns about going back to work (long post)

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BackToWorkAgain · 19/01/2019 12:06

Warning extremely long post

I had a couple of career jobs in my 20's. Stayed at home in my 30's raising our family. Now in my 40's it is time to work again.

I have some concerns about returning to work and a couple of questions regarding child care.

Child care questions first.

My DH thinks it would be reasonable to leave a 10yo, 8yo and 6yo to lock up the house and walk 10 minutes to primary school together in the morning and return home together after school to wait home together but without adult supervision until a parent returns. They already do this walk with me daily. 8yo and 10yo sometimes walk back from school on their own.

I think we would have to pay for school wrap around care for all three children. As 6yo and 8yo are too young to be on their own and the 10yo is very anxious child and gets very frightened if they are ever left alone, even to sleep or visit the bathroom.

1. Do we need to pay for wrap around school care for the three younger children ?

My DH thinks it would be reasonable to get the 12yo to watch the 10yo, 8yo and 6yo all day in the school holidays whilst we both work. 12yo would also have to serve a simple cold lunch and get snacks and drinks out.

I think we would have to pay for holiday care for the youngest two at the very minimum. As 10yo would probably be OK with 12yo during the day.

2. Do we need to pay for holiday care for the youngest two/three ?

Now the work concerns

I have not formally worked for a decade, but have volunteered for a few things during this time. However I still have a working brain and I am more than capable of finding work and actually doing a job day to day.

In fact the thought of working with adults is appealing to me, to do work that matters rather than the endless grind of housework. All things being equal, I look forward to returning to work. However I was planning to wait until the youngest was in high school and my DH wants me to go back now...hence looking into practicalities now.

My main concern is that I won't be able to turn a profit. My last job was well paid, however as I need a local job and a short commute (because of health issues) there isn't much choice locally. I will likely end up in a minimum wage no promotion type job.

I need to balance this new income against one off costs (work clothes and a pair of shoes), work related costs (petrol/parking), child care costs AND taking into account the loss of child tax credits (removed at a sliding scale depending on my new income) and loss of PIP (which I suspect will be removed the moment I return to work, even though in theory PIP is not related to work, in reality it usually is)

I need this combination to come out with a positive number. Of course if I found a term time or school hours job that would be a lot easier to do, but nothing around here at the minute. So looking at full time hours jobs.

I know there will be comments about how childcare costs need to be taken out of DH's wage too. But in reality his wage already covers all monthly expenses with a tiny amount left over. Simply speaking, if my wage can't cover all my new costs plus turn a profit, it is not feasible.

My DH has ruled out evening or weekend work, as he doesn't want to be stuck in with the children whilst I work. Which is a shame, as this would be the easiest way to turn a profit. I will talk to him again, as I think this is the best solution.

Night work would be very hard for me, as I need to use my cpap machine a minimum of six hours a night in order to be compliant and keep my driving license.

So I am looking at week day work.

I am worried that my ill health will make holding a job down difficult.

My bowel disease means that I need access to a toilet at all times and that access has to be spontaneous, as I might only have a minute to get there. I can not finish a phone call or finish serving a customer, I need a job that I can excuse myself and visit the ladies as and when I need to.

It also means I have periods of a few days a month when I can't leave the bathroom in the morning and would near the flexibility to start work late on these days.

I also have a yearly review and every three years I have a colonoscopy. So would need time off for that stuff too.

I am on a medical diet to reduce IBS symptoms (in addition to my other bowel issue), which means I always have to eat my own food and need somewhere to store, reheat, eat food. This should be an easy one to sort out, as I carry my own food with me as standard.

My Under Active Thyroid requires regular blood tests and medicine updates to get my levels right. This is partially why I am so exhausted all the time. Probably only need two gp appointments every three months. One for bloods, one for results.

My hearing issues are mild, I wear aid in my hearing impaired ear but not in my deaf one, I can lipread. I find noisy environments very difficult to deal with and clearly struggle to hear at some times. But honestly this has never affected my work much.

Beyond people failing to get my attention sometimes and I prefer to confirm everything in a email to check I haven't misheard anything (which is sensible for everyone to do).

Sleep Apnoea adds to my tiredness and I use a cpap machine overnight in order to keep my driving license.

I am temporarily having balance issues, I am falling over more and dropping things a fair bit. But I am confident this will go away, maybe I need some exercises to do. I have a Neurology Appointment next month, hopefully it will rule out the nasties and I will get a sheet of exercises to strengthen my legs and grip.

My bowel disease and my hearing impairment are classed as disabilities but I don't consider myself to be disabled.

My DH thinks I am disabled and I should tell potential employers upfront and I am more likely to get a guarantee interview this way too. But I am concerned my issues would put them off employing me. However it would give me a chance to explain in person, how I am a good worker, despite a few health issues. So I am very undecided on this point.

I am unsure when/if I would tell an employee about my health issues. Before interview, after I start work, if it starts affecting my job ?

3. Do work need to know about my health issues ? If so when do you mention it ?

4. Will work allow me time off for regular medical appointments?

I am concerned that DH has made it clear that he can not help with the children's clubs, illness, homework. As he works long hours a good distance away.

In particularly I need to cover 12yo brace appointments every three months and 6yo speech therapy appointments one hour weekly.

5. Will work allow me time off for regular children medical appointments? Or how else do I get children to these appointments?

Currently there are also a beavers, cubs, dance, scouts and gymnastic evening clubs outside school. Plus a couple of after school clubs too.
I usually parent and ferry children around between 3.30pm and 8pm (latest one 9.30pm) every evening.

6. But if I work full time and need to fit homework, tea, bath in for the kids, I assume they will have to quit all these clubs. Or do I get a taxi to run them there, whilst I parent the other children ? How do other people do this ?

My DH has already said that he can not take time off to cover children illness, it is up to me to cover it all. Luckily only the 6yo is ill often and I am confident that this will improve in time. I am guessing I will need maximum 6 days a year to cover D&V bugs, hopefully a lot less.

7. Will work allow me time off when kids are ill ? What are the alternatives ?

I am concerned that I simply will not be able to cope doing everything that I do now and work 40 hours on top of it
However I know plenty of women do it and therefore there is no reason I shouldn't try.

But I am so exhausted already and I don't know how I am going find the extra energy I need. Already at home, I can not sit down from 3pm onwards as I will fall asleep, even if talking to someone or doing paperwork. The doctor said that is normal for parents, so I just have to KOKO.

Despite all these worries, if I can address all the above concerns and bring in some much needed money into the house, I would be delighted.

On the plus note, I want to earn my own money, help support our family, maybe save up for a family holiday. I want to stop living on such a tight budget, where so many things are simply beyond our means. It would be great to know that when something breaks we would have the money there to to fix it.

But what if I make everything so much worse for me and the kids. What if I work full time and bring in a small amount of money or nothing. I am worried that the kids will spend all their time alone or at school, have to cancel their clubs and not see their friends, so I can work for no profit.

I am definitely going back to work but I planned to get all the kids into high school first, to reduce child care costs. I just think with three in primary school this is going to be hard.

Any positive advice welcome.

I am feeling better now my concerns are written down. Hopefully I will get some good pointers from here and I can work down my list, eliminating my concerns.

Ps. Congratulations for reading this far !

OP posts:
Darnsquirrels · 28/01/2019 12:11

Do you know what a 'troll' is? I haven't suggested you are one. I'm saying I (and a few others) have seen through your passive aggressive posting.

Darnsquirrels · 28/01/2019 13:18

Although I should have said, if you have the health issues you do I don't blame you for NOT wanting to go back to work at all.

BackToWorkAgain · 28/01/2019 15:10

Of course I don't want to go back to work, but I promised I would, therefore I will.

I have concerns over my health, the money I can earn and my childcare issues.

But most people have posted positively and it doesn't seem as insurmountable as it did at the start of the thread. I warned DH that he will have to do loads more at home and he agrees he will.

This is the defination of being a grown up, not wanting to do something but doing it anyway...something DH and I are both learning.

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BackToWorkAgain · 28/01/2019 15:13

Yes, I do have several health issues..enough that PIP consider me disabled enough to be given PIP last year.

But that doesn't stop me being able to work, in theory. I have to try and see how it goes, in practice.

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Pickled0nion · 28/01/2019 16:50

but I promised I would, therefore I will. I have concerns over my health, the money I can earn and my childcare issues.

When you write like this? This is why some of us feel you are being disingenuous.

Pickled0nion · 28/01/2019 16:51

“I made a promise” is not a good enough reason to risk your health and well-being for so little benefit. And you never responded to the person who pointed out that your promise was on the basis of the promise your husband made and hasn’t kept.

workornot · 28/01/2019 17:16

Plus I am not reliable enough to do an outside job without access to a bathroom

how do you manage school runs etc?

InionEile · 28/01/2019 17:32

Sounds like your DH wants to have his cake and eat it, as I have noticed many men with SAHM wives do. They want to have someone at home taking care of the kids so they can focus 100% on work and not do any parenting but they also want to have someone else in the family bringing in a full time income equivalent to theirs.

Tell him it doesn’t work like that. If he wants to have zero childcare responsibilities and no stress other than bringing in what sounds like a modest income every month then that requires you to stay home or only work minimal hours with no significant income generation. If he wants you bringing in a significant income then he needs to step up and take on 50% of the parenting and household responsibilities. Now. Not ‘once you’re earning’ but now so you can adjust in advance.

To be honest, with a selfish DH like him, I’m not surprised you got ill over the past decade of raising 4 children single-handed with nothing from him other than a pay cheque every month.

BackToWorkAgain · 28/01/2019 18:31

how do you manage school runs etc?
Sometimes I go late after taking loads of extra meds and waiting for them to kick in.

Sometimes I ask a friend to pick up kids for me.

Sometimes I drive onto the school carpark and dash to office bathroom.

Sometimes I walk the 10 minutes to school and end up knocking on complete strangers doors and ask them to use their bathroom. Thank goodness this is a small village and most people are helpful.

I do what I have to do.

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BackToWorkAgain · 28/01/2019 18:36

Some days are better than others.

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BasinHaircut · 29/01/2019 07:56

OP your last post makes you sound practically housebound. How on earth are you supposed to work out of the home if it’s that bad?

I’m not questioning your illness BTW, I know what a bastard bowel conditions are.

ChariotsofFish · 29/01/2019 08:50

You live in a small village? How will you be getting to work to earn £100 a month?

BackToWorkAgain · 29/01/2019 09:30

BasinHaircut I have good days too. Plus morning are a lot worse, afternoons are better.
I can be house bound when it is a bad day(s).
I can tell after my first 40 minute session in the bathroom around 6.30am roughly how good a day it will be.

This is why I am concentrating on full time home based jobs and free lance work atm.

I have four days to write a covering letter to the fund raiser job I found.

DH is hoping to hear back from the telephone interview in the next couple of days. Fingers crossed.

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BackToWorkAgain · 29/01/2019 09:33

ChariotsofFish
I have a car. I can't use public transport, it is too stressful and I am likely to have accidents.

I am only looking for very local jobs in the surrounding villages, which have parking close to the job. I don't have a blue card, so just a normal car parking.

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Wallabyone · 29/01/2019 09:41

You can't leave the children alone, it's too much responsibility for the eldest to bear. When I became aware of a ten year old looking after his 8 year old sister after school, using the cooker etc, I called the (single) mum and offered a heavily discounted entry for both to after school club. If she hadn't been cooperative, I would have involved social care (I was an assistant head).

ChariotsofFish · 29/01/2019 09:43

Oh. Then get rid of your car and you’d probably save £100 a month?

BackToWorkAgain · 29/01/2019 10:12

ChariotsofFish That is an option but I wouldn't be able to take the kids to school on my my bad days or get food shopping in, or take them to clubs.

Then I truly would be house bound...it is better to find a job.

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BackToWorkAgain · 29/01/2019 10:13

Wallabyone
I was seeking back up, as I always felt it wouldn't work leaving kids home alone. DH has now agreed paid child care will be needed.

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ecuse · 13/02/2019 20:06

How's it going, OP, did you have any luck with job hunting?

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