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If there was another Brexit referendum would you vote the same way?

523 replies

marmeladerose · 14/01/2019 20:26

By the way I am not for another Brexit referendum but I am seeing a lot about it on the news/social media and it got be wondering what everyone would vote if it did happen and what did you vote before? I voted remain and would vote remain again.

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OxanaVorontsova · 16/01/2019 18:58

Yes, remain. Utterly dismayed by leaders on both sides in parliament though.

James O'Brien summed it up well on twitter yesterday:
'This is horrible. Everything is stymied by the inability of both leaders to admit that there is nothing objectively better for the UK than EU membership. We're arguing over silver & bronze medals while pretending that gold doesn't exist.

Bluntness100 · 16/01/2019 20:32

Even Corbyn, who I have no time for, is demanding may takes no deal off the table now, because of the catastrophic effect it would have. The problem is, it's her one bargaining chip with the eu and parliament, They don't want it either, so she's not wanting to say it.

I'm honestly concerned, I don't like the way she's saying we go on the 29 March, we can't. It's logistically impossible to negotiate and deal and pass it into legislation by then, and not just us, all countries have to do the same, but right now she's appearing stubborn, and it's making me uncomfortable, whatever happens, I think she needs to back down on some of her hard lines.

Parliament won't allow a no deal, of the two, I'd support may over Corbyn any day, but someone has to blink first. Either us or the eu. Either her or parliament, And the bottom line is, no matter how much the eu doesn't want no deal, it's going to hurt us much more than it's going to hurt any other country.

I'm hoping it's her way of trying to force a deal with parliament and the eu, but right now we are in a horrible place. She's always done what's best for us, in her view, but holy shit, maybe she's had enough and the stress of it has got to her and she's giving it the big fuck you. I'm not sure it can't be ruled out if I'm honest. At some point that woman has to crack.

SillySallySingsSongs · 16/01/2019 21:04

Even Corbyn, who I have no time for, is demanding may takes no deal off the table now, because of the catastrophic effect it would have

Problem is he is now making a long list of demands before he will even meet her as he said in his speech today. Even LibDems and SNP haven't done that and have welcomed her offer to meet.

Yet he still hasn't confirmed what Labour actually want.

SheWoreBlueVelvet · 16/01/2019 21:06

My understanding of the problem of NI and Ireland is that the EU don’t want goods in and out that don’t meet their criteria. It’s not the UK being difficult.
Having driven through Switzerland you pay the euros and get a car sticker that lasts a year. No idea how it works with refugees escaping over the mountains into Switzerland. I’m guessing they probably don’t bother as it would harder there, than than in EU community.

discusstin · 16/01/2019 21:09

Remain then, remain now. All of my friends and colleagues voted remain.

Worriedmummybekind · 16/01/2019 21:11

I voted remain and am if anything more fervently remain. The utter disaster so far has been worse than even I imagined.

Bluntness100 · 16/01/2019 21:17

Yet he still hasn't confirmed what Labour actually want

No, he's not, because it's so much easier to say what you don't want and attack than to say what you do want.

To be fair to him though, his party is as divided as the Tories, so it's nigh on impossible to say what labour want or for him to be honest about what he wants, without causing absolute chaos in his party, they hate him as it is.

ThorsMistress · 16/01/2019 21:46

Remain then, remain now

Glitterbug76 · 16/01/2019 21:55

Hilda
I voted leave
I'm not old , I have qualifications don't live in a deprived area. I have friends who are barristers , teachers , police , buisness oweners all voted to leave.

Edgeworth · 16/01/2019 22:07

@Glitterbug76

That may be true, but level of education and age were the two biggest divisions in the referendum results. Of course, that doesn't mean that every younger or educated voter voted Remain (far from it), but there were clear trends.

yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/articles-reports/2016/06/27/how-britain-voted

M3lon · 16/01/2019 22:20

glitterbug 'I have qualifications'

Clearly not in statistics though....

Raffleeight · 18/01/2019 22:01

Just for the attention of Bizzle123

Parky04 · 20/01/2019 20:34

Voted remain. I wouldn't vote again. Should never have let the people decide on such a big issue. Both of my DS are now eligible to vote. If there was another vote, one would vote remain and the other would vote leave! The whole issue is so divisive.

Educator66 · 08/03/2019 21:13

You would see a lot of propaganda in the media now. When you see a statement for which there is no opposing argument - you know it is propaganda. For instance, the media is claiming that there are now more people who want to remain in the EU than want to leave! In the EU's dreams!

Educator66 · 08/03/2019 21:20

"That may be true, but level of education and age were the two biggest divisions" is what you read in Newspaper reports. The truth of the matter is that most of the University students voted for Brexit. The newspapers claimed that the Universities were supporting Remain - that is not true. It was the Student Unions who supported remain because they are paid grants by the EU - but the students did not support that. Students are taught to research all arguments - that is what they did, and they voted accordingly.

Educator66 · 08/03/2019 21:27

Glitterbug76 - you are not in the minority! The majority of business professionals, University graduates etc., all voted to Leave. Such people do not take written media reports for granted - all those who supported Brexit carried out a lot of research into both Leave and Remain. Remember, leaving the EU was not just a spur of the moment issue as it was for remain. The realisation that the EU was not beneficial to the UK and that we needed out took place in 1998, after which people discussed and argued all the relevant points and came to their own individual decisions. That is why the Leave vote was so much stronger.

bellinisurge · 08/03/2019 21:29

... and none of them thought about GFA, they were so clever.

Educator66 · 08/03/2019 21:40

Worriedmummybekind - then you have not done your homework, if you believe that. The UK is attracting far more investment than previously because the UK will not be tied into costly agreements. More businesses are starting up because people now have far more confidence to do so. Previously the EU were not keen on new businesses as they would have reduced the profits of the huge conglomerates that the EU supported. Hopefully, our full fishing industry will return to the UK - an industry that our country relied on for our economy. There are a catalogue of reasons for leaving the EU - no-one was lied to, but a hell of a lot of people would not listen and did not pay attention to this very important issue, now they are blaming the leave supporters.

Mistigri · 08/03/2019 21:45

an industry that our country relied on for our economy.

Lol. You know it's a brexit thread when you can't tell whether people are being intentionally funny or not.

Someone commented on twitter today that remainers would have been more productively employed taking the piss out of brexiters rather than trying to argue with/educate them. Can't disagree with that.

Educator66 · 08/03/2019 21:48

One thing that almost all Brexit supporters realised after they studied all the reports for and against Brexit is - that you never trust newspaper/television reports ever! You have to know what the argument is, what the details consist of and make an educated decision. America does not want the UK to leave the EU - right? The newspaper/television reports mainly come from Reuter's news agency, right? Where is Reuter's news agency based? America. If you want to know the truth - do as we all did, study World reports not just from the West, do not study reports that have a vested interest in the EU - read independent reports. Double and triple check the facts - we all did and even then argued our findings. Believe you me - leaving is the ONLY real option.

bellinisurge · 08/03/2019 21:49

Take the piss and your a horrible meanie metropolitan elitist. Argue with them and .......eventually you are a horrible meanie metropolitan elitist.

bellinisurge · 08/03/2019 21:51

Obviously that should be "you're" because I'm a meanie etc etc

Frosties567 · 08/03/2019 22:49

I voted remain
Would vote leave now. For me respecting the democratic process is far more important than staying in the EU. We’ve already had the people’s vote no point in having another one if we like living in a democracy.

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