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Chipbutty67 · 26/12/2018 22:14

I feel so petty even typing this out but I also feel so sad. Talk some sense into me, please.

My DH and I have been married for 10 years. When we met, he was unemployed and I was a high earner. We bought a flat, using mainly my savings for a deposit. However, after I had DC1 complications for both my son and I meant I had to take a career break. We are both recovered but I have difficulty with a very bad back still. I now have 2 DC and am a SAHM. DH works full time. We pool all finances and have joint accounts.

We have now sold the flat, releasing a bit of extra equity, and bought a house. We are using the extra money to re-do the kitchen, which is from the 1960s and very worn.

As a SAHM I do 100% of all childcare (1 child in school) and all the kitchen related tasks. I’m obviously not happy with this but any discussion leads to arguments. I think this is relevant.

When choosing the kitchen, obviously my DH has had an absolutely equal say on everything, however as only I use the kitchen, I feel like there are some purely functional elements that I am honestly better placed to choose (tiny details like type of tap, type of bins)

However, the whole process has made me feel really sad about the way my DH sees my role in the family. I’ve spent countless hours researching every last detail and showing them to him, and he then chooses what he wants.

Small things like taps etc which I ask for are usually dismissed as he can’t see the value in them, but he’s adding quite ridiculous and unnecessary extras which he wants.

Today, we were finalising the design and I asked if we could incorporate a pan drawer. I was trying to explain the functionality of not having to get down on your knees and move all the heavy pans to get to the back. In front of the salespeople he said ‘you don’t do much else, how hard is it for you to use a cupboard’. This was followed with a huff about knowing the value of money if you’ve earned it. Ultimately, I didn’t want to argue in the showroom and we went with his decision.

I didn’t say anything at the time, but at home I brought up the fact that I use the kitchen and it was unnecessary to speak to me like that. I also mentioned that the additional cost of the drawer was far less than he had spent that morning on treating himself to new games and tech in the Boxing Day sales.

Again, I was told I was ungrateful as he was buying the kitchen ‘for me’, that plenty of people make do without the bits I want, and that I shouldn’t expect any more ‘presents’ as he’s already spent enough on this kitchen.

I’m so sad but I just can’t articulate to my DH why and he’s convinced I’m being ungrateful, and I do feel a bit ungrateful as well but I also feel sad I became a SAHM I never begrudged him a single penny of our joint funds yet I find myself in a position of being unable to make simple choices.

OP posts:
nostaples · 26/12/2018 22:38

I think it's very difficult when a relationship is so unequal financially. There's obviously resentment on his side and total dependence on yours. I'm not sure how that works. Would it help if you got a better balance with him contributing to looking after the home and children more and you contributing to finances?

BettyBooJustDoinTheDoo · 26/12/2018 22:38

And when I say get back into the workplace I mean this so you can leave the twat not so that he can “respect” you, he should respect you now for setting you both up financially in the first place and for bringing up your children and running your home.

delboysskinandblister · 26/12/2018 22:38

Get the pan drawer first.
Don't leave. Kick him out....

PenelopeFlintstone · 26/12/2018 22:38

You certainly don't sound 'entitled', OP. In fact, you don't sound entitled enough!! Flowers
I think you need to:
a) Open your own account and start filling it up
b) Never let him do that in a shop again - stand up, cancel the kitchen and walk out if it happens again. Dignity is still maintained.
c) Definitely get at least a part-time job.

Good luck Smile

FFSFFSFFS · 26/12/2018 22:38

oh and what exactly should be grateful for?

He's a dick. You, on the other hand, are not.

He's sucking you of confidence. Get some sort of part time job - start siphoning some funds away and get a plan.

OhLemons · 26/12/2018 22:39

I think you need the pan drawer more than him.

biscuitmillionaire · 26/12/2018 22:39

He thinks he’s Billy Big Bollocks because he gets a pay cheque while you’re Little Subservient Lady who does his bidding at home.
This ^

Which is ironic seeing as it was your earnings that made the flat purchase possible, which is buying the kitchen.

Aspergallus · 26/12/2018 22:39

He sounds like an absolute wanker. Sorry.

snowfire1 · 26/12/2018 22:40

Don't know why you refer to him as DH? you deserve respect.

sprouts21 · 26/12/2018 22:41

Either cancel the kitchen, or order the drawers you wanted without further discussion.

Serin · 26/12/2018 22:41

Oh love. What a prize prat he is.
Our kitchen units are all specially measured to my height as I do 99% of all the cooking (it's my hobby).
He sounds controlling and belittling.
Don't let him erode your confidence anymore.
My dad was like this with my DMum, a total bully, she has to ask for every penny but he bought himself the best of everything.when he died she really blossomed and became such a different happy person. But she lived a miserable life because of him for 40 years.

WomanWithAltitude · 26/12/2018 22:43

Fucking hell that's bad. He has no respect for you. He treats you with contempt. Sad

I'm so sorry OP, I can only agree with pp that you need to LTB.

BumbleBeee69 · 26/12/2018 22:43

He sounds like an absolute wanker. Sorry.

This Flowers

RandomMess · 26/12/2018 22:44

Bloody he'll go back and get your pan drawers and get rid of the unnecessary features he wants to cover the cost, they are brilliant!!!

I think you do need to remind him how much £ you put into the flat and the value of that now with house values appreciated the way they have.

He is coming across as misogynistic and entitled, not sure how your marriage will
Stand you returning to work when he will need to take of a fair share of the wife work....

NonaGrey · 26/12/2018 22:45

The kitchen is not “for you” it’s a functional space for the benefit of the whole family and contribute to the value of your home.

You should be grateful for a kitchen. It’s not a gift.

I’ve been a SAHM and my DH would never have dismissed my contribution to the family like that.

Genuinely, start seeking full time jobs immediately. Your position is vulnerable and you have a husband who neither values not respects you.

Flowers
UnleashTheBulsara · 26/12/2018 22:45

He is treating you like less because you are allowing him too

This is not so. He is treating you so despicably because he is a despicable person. He dismisses your opinions (which are actually very sensible) to award himself the final say?

He is a revolting excuse for a human being and absolutely will not change. You deserve better than to be treated in this way. Please reevaluate your worth and dump this pathetic waste of oxygen.

bc1234 · 26/12/2018 22:46

Please leave him he sounds awful

timeisnotaline · 26/12/2018 22:46

Cancel the kitchen. And i too think Ltb. You’ve been ground down or you wouldn’t even have to think about this. We split the cooking although I enjoy baking and I don’t have any backstory like i was the sole earner and bought our first flat on our own and I’d still expect to choose 95% of a new kitchen!

ninjawarriorsocks · 26/12/2018 22:46

OP that’s horrible and no wonder you are upset.

I was a SAHM for many years for various reasons, and my DH never spoke to me like this. He was well aware that me being at home enabled his career, and that looking after a home and DCs is actually pretty relentless. The money he earns has always been seen as ‘family’ money not ‘his money’. Any expenditure we’ve discussed as equals. Occasionally if I’ve felt taken for granted, or he’s made a comment that’s upset me, I’ve explained how I felt, and he’s listened and taken it on board. Now the DC are older I am back at work and he’s having to do a lot more cleaning cooking childcare etc.

For your DH to make those comments in public is particularly mean. The kitchen isn’t a present to you, it’s a room in the house where you cook and clean and use constantly... (and by the way you were correct, a pan drawer is really useful especially if you have a bad back).

‘Am I right’ makes good points above. I think you need to talk to him about the balance in your relationship. His response will be quite telling.

missperegrinespeculiar · 26/12/2018 22:46

He is buying the kitchen "for you"?! I guess he doesn't eat then?

I am not sure the relationship can be salvaged, but you need to talk very seriously about how he treats you, I would be planning to leave him honestly.

Did he maybe feel threatened by you being a high earner and now feels he is finally the big shot?

Very unattractive and a little pathetic.

AmericanEskimoDoge · 26/12/2018 22:47

He sounds horrible. That's not a normal, respectful way to treat a spouse. If he isn't willing to work on his attitude, I'm afraid I'd have to leave him. Life with someone like that would be miserable.

HarrySnotter · 26/12/2018 22:51

OP. You sound lovely and a little bit broken. Sad

Your husband is a wanker for making you feel like this and I think that's unforgivable. I couldn't be with someone like this and although I am not an argumentative person at all, I think the argument would be worth it to get your point across and let him know that you won't tolerate this. It's nothing to do with the kitchen, he's making you feel shit in general. What's the worst that could happen? He'll leave? That would be the best thing for you.

FlashingLights101 · 26/12/2018 22:51

Why on earth have you not brought up the fact that your money funded the original house purchase? Or that you were essentially the bread winner for a while so you know exactly what the value of money? I don't understand why you wouldn't have this conversation with him?

Unless you have already - in which case I apologise - but I really struggle with this seemingly increasingly common 'helpless' attitude from some women, where they just put up with this kind of behaviour but don't seem to want to confront it. (Obviously I'm not talking about abusive relationships, but that doesn't seem to be the OP's case from what she has written).

I'm not unsympathetic OP, your DH sounds like an idiot, but for goodness sake stand up for yourself and don't let him talk to you like this!

selkiesolstice · 26/12/2018 22:55

he sounds a twat alright. I'd go back to work and make him 50% responsible for the childcare.

Touchmybum · 26/12/2018 22:55

He deserves a bloody good kick up the arse.

Your self-esteem is down the toilet and you need to get it back. He is one ignorant, nasty fucker.

Ring and make the adjustments you want to the kitchen. It's not like he has any intention of using it!!