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Chipbutty67 · 26/12/2018 22:14

I feel so petty even typing this out but I also feel so sad. Talk some sense into me, please.

My DH and I have been married for 10 years. When we met, he was unemployed and I was a high earner. We bought a flat, using mainly my savings for a deposit. However, after I had DC1 complications for both my son and I meant I had to take a career break. We are both recovered but I have difficulty with a very bad back still. I now have 2 DC and am a SAHM. DH works full time. We pool all finances and have joint accounts.

We have now sold the flat, releasing a bit of extra equity, and bought a house. We are using the extra money to re-do the kitchen, which is from the 1960s and very worn.

As a SAHM I do 100% of all childcare (1 child in school) and all the kitchen related tasks. I’m obviously not happy with this but any discussion leads to arguments. I think this is relevant.

When choosing the kitchen, obviously my DH has had an absolutely equal say on everything, however as only I use the kitchen, I feel like there are some purely functional elements that I am honestly better placed to choose (tiny details like type of tap, type of bins)

However, the whole process has made me feel really sad about the way my DH sees my role in the family. I’ve spent countless hours researching every last detail and showing them to him, and he then chooses what he wants.

Small things like taps etc which I ask for are usually dismissed as he can’t see the value in them, but he’s adding quite ridiculous and unnecessary extras which he wants.

Today, we were finalising the design and I asked if we could incorporate a pan drawer. I was trying to explain the functionality of not having to get down on your knees and move all the heavy pans to get to the back. In front of the salespeople he said ‘you don’t do much else, how hard is it for you to use a cupboard’. This was followed with a huff about knowing the value of money if you’ve earned it. Ultimately, I didn’t want to argue in the showroom and we went with his decision.

I didn’t say anything at the time, but at home I brought up the fact that I use the kitchen and it was unnecessary to speak to me like that. I also mentioned that the additional cost of the drawer was far less than he had spent that morning on treating himself to new games and tech in the Boxing Day sales.

Again, I was told I was ungrateful as he was buying the kitchen ‘for me’, that plenty of people make do without the bits I want, and that I shouldn’t expect any more ‘presents’ as he’s already spent enough on this kitchen.

I’m so sad but I just can’t articulate to my DH why and he’s convinced I’m being ungrateful, and I do feel a bit ungrateful as well but I also feel sad I became a SAHM I never begrudged him a single penny of our joint funds yet I find myself in a position of being unable to make simple choices.

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Apileofballyhoo · 27/12/2018 12:04

Chipbutty, I don't think I've ever sent someone a hug on MN but I'm sending you one. Get everything in your new kitchen for what you need. Hope you're getting eye level ovens to go with your pan drawer.

Your H is an absolute prick.

Delighted you are making progress on sorting yourself out. You're great. Keep going.

Izzy24 · 27/12/2018 12:09

Just read your update OP

You should be so proud of yourself for working so hard to reach the right place for you and your dc.

Whatever the upshot of tonight’s discussion is, it will be several more steps forward.

justilou1 · 27/12/2018 12:15

Have you thought about calling the kitchen company and putting in an order for the pan drawer anyway?? Fuck him and the horse he rode in on!!

thebaronetofcockburn · 27/12/2018 12:19

Please ring back and get the things you want in the kitchen. Then take back your control. I would stop sharing money with this twat at all and go 50/50 on it all if you have similar incomes. I wouldn't buy him another 'present' again. Fuck him. And I'd work towards leaving him. He has no respect for you at all.

Missingstreetlife · 27/12/2018 12:28

Well done op. Men are v competitive amongst themselves and need reminding that we are different. I've just sent mine out because I can't stand him organising my day. It's wearing to have to defend yourself all the time but unfortunately that's how it is. You fight your corner until he sees that the corners are shared. Don't let him boss you, he will respect you more. Depression is anger turned in, often when we have no choices. You can make choices here. Don't hesitate

Banana8080 · 27/12/2018 12:52

Pan draws are awesome. Your husband is not.

Banana8080 · 27/12/2018 12:55

Meant to add, you sound awesome too.

pinkyredrose · 27/12/2018 13:19

Can't believe you got a dining table as a present!

Vehivle · 27/12/2018 13:28

I'm only on the second page but I just wanted to hastily post - CANCEL THE KITCHEN! You'll on regret it every time you need a bloody pan (which in my house is like at least once a day!) and your back will just get worse. Seriously cancel it before its built and order what YOU need in that kitchen. Do it without discussing it with him. As others have said - it's your bloody money from the flat anyways and it's your bloody kitchen. Don't have even compromise on a cupboard handle that he's chosen if you don't want it. This kitchen could be with you for YEARS. Ours has been unchanged for 15 years and I hate it. Make sure yours is right!

Eliza9917 · 27/12/2018 13:28

Fuck applying for part time roles, you need to apply for a divorce imo.

EchoCardioGran · 27/12/2018 13:43

Ah! Saw your update. Good for you for making progress. Have confidence in yourself. You sound like a woman with a plan now! Smile
Onwards and upwards.

billybagpuss · 27/12/2018 15:11

Just read your update, several times, you should be really proud. He also actually sounds quite weak. I think 2019 will be a defining year for you. He's already proved that he backs down quite quickly. As you start to refresh your work skills and earn your own money you will get a new confidence that will be interesting to see how he copes with it.

I wish you all the best, both professionally and in however your relationship evolves from here.

KataraJean · 27/12/2018 18:02

I think if you have grown up in an abusive situation, it is hard to know you should have boundaries, never mind how to draw them.

I think also you are doing very well, to overcome post-natal anxiety and learn to draw boundaries around him treating you like a servant.

I am slightly confused, though, because you must somehow, despite your background, have done really well to have had a good job, to buy your flat and support him when he was unemployed. So where did the self-doubt creep in? It sounds like your husband has exploited your anxieties, whereas you sound like a woman who has done really well with the hand life dealt her - and will do so again. Post-natal anxiety is awful, but it is made much worse by someone who adds to your domestic burden, makes digs and undermines your confidence. It sounds like you are taking on the burden of this being all your fault for not drawing boundaries and suffering post-natal anxiety. But you must have been successful, and one in four women has post natal mental health issues. As someone said to me, even if it was all your fault (it is not), your husband’s role is to be supportive, not look for weaknesses to exploit.

I guess I am saying do not burden yourself by thinking you are the cause of his behaviour. Yes, you need to be assertive, but you really should not be in a position where you are having to assert that you do not cook meals to order or that he should not dismiss your needs and views and indeed you, in front of a salesperson.

Really glad to hear that you have a plan and the good ladies on MN have been helping you. It takes a long time to get out of being under someone’s control, and you are on your wayFlowers

AsleepAllDay · 27/12/2018 18:04

Controlling and a cunt

MrsDrudge · 27/12/2018 18:16

You used your savings/earnings to put a roof over his head in the first place. Has he considered that?

Charron · 27/12/2018 22:29

Drawers for all lower cupboards are quite popular and work really well as long as you have very good runners. Imagine sliding open a drawer to get to your plates, cups and saucers, mugs etc. It’s so much easier especially for people with a bad back.

I would rather no new kitchen than one I didn’t want.

BlackCatSleeping · 28/12/2018 00:56

Good luck for the chat. I hope he takes it on board.

Rockmysocks · 28/12/2018 05:10

I hope you get your pan drawer! Please ignore tight arse controlling husband.
Stand up to him!

BarbaraofSevillle · 28/12/2018 08:31

Pan drawers are revolutionary, so much more space efficient and much better ergonomically. I'm so glad I learnt about them on here.

We don't just have pan drawers, but every single base unit, all 12 of them, are 2 deep half height drawers. No crawling on the floor to drag stuff out of the back here.

LadyOfTheFlowers · 28/12/2018 08:41

I was a sahm from birth of second child until 4th and final started school so 5 years total. I left a very good job in the banking sector to do this. In that 5 years I was made to feel as if nothing I did was of any value even though I did everything for the kids and basically wiped his arse for him. Dinner was on the table every day, house spotless, got up to the kids if needed, carried on fully functioning even one xmas when I had swine flu (I actually thought I was going to die).

We are divorced now.

billybagpuss · 28/12/2018 08:56

How did the chat go OP?

madcatladyforever · 28/12/2018 09:02

I would stamp on this right now before it gets worse and you end up being a doormat. Stamp on it anyway you know how - he simply cannot be allowed to get away with treating you like a 2nd class citizen. I'd have handed him his arse on a plate by now.
I'm so sorry you had to deal with this OP, this awful patronising treatment.

IamtheDevilsAvocado · 28/12/2018 09:10

That is soooo abusive.

I would be giving him an ultimatum... Or throwing him out...

How dare he speak to you like that... In front of someone or not... Just NO..

7yo7yo · 28/12/2018 14:56

Did you have your conversation op?

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