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To resent it when my family refuses to use my surname?

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DeeOK · 16/12/2018 19:57

I got married 18 years ago but it never occurred to me to change my name. I was 32 and my surname was too much a part of who I am. I have never, ever, criticised or judged anyone for changing their names - I respect their choice but expect them to respect mine too. This has not been a problem except in my own family. My mum and an aunt consistently "forget" my name is not the same as my DH's. I can accept this to an extent as they are of an older generation, but what upsets me is one of my sisters who will not remember. I just got a card from her addressed to the "xx" family (my DH's name).
I've spoken to her loads of times and each time she reacts as if it's new information. She says "but legally it is your name isn't it?" - even though this is entirely untrue- your name does not automatically change when you get married, if you don't want it to you just carry on as before. She's well educated and would consider herself a feminist, I just do not understand why she won't respect my wishes? And if I mention it in a family get together I'm made to feel I'm making a fuss about nothing. Thankfully my eldest sister also kept her name and feels the same as me. I have a 3rd sister who doesn't want to get involved.
It's really getting me down, especially with Christmas coming up!

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HammerHorror · 16/12/2018 21:41

From an etiquette point of view how would you address an envelope to a couple who have separate surnames?

You really can't think how to do that?!?!?

How do address envelopes to a non-married cohabiting couple?

JuneFromBethesda · 16/12/2018 21:42

I think almost every card we've received has been addressed to Mr and Mrs DH surname, even from family members who know better. It's a bit rude really.

I can't stand this. My husband says I rant about it every year! I actually brought it up with my parents, who are in every other respect very enlightened Grin simply says it's traditional.

Actually I don't mind Mr & Mrs HisSurname, what I really hate is Mr & Mrs HisInitial HisSurname. Like I don't have an identity at all - I'm just his baggage Angry

DeeOK · 16/12/2018 21:42

I also had a legacy from an aunt for Mrs "DHname". Thankfully a lawyer sorted it out but it was stressful.
It's the 21st century! Why is this a thing?

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Socksey · 16/12/2018 21:43

I had to just check that it wasn't me who wrote the OP as this is exactly what I have to deal with.... drives me nuts.....just because my younger sister wants to be known by her husband's name (which I have always respected) doesn't mean I want to....

DeeOK · 16/12/2018 21:45

Oh God the "Mr and Mrs his initial his surname" is the worst of all, I totally lose the plot if I get a card addressed that way.

(Can't seem to reply to individual posts for some reason?)

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Weezol · 16/12/2018 21:45

I would probably refer to sister as 'Derek' in future. It's not like names are anything to make a fuss over is it?

HammerHorror · 16/12/2018 21:45

We also get all mail addressed to Mr DHSurname. Even from friends who know the amount of shit I've had to tolerate for keeping my own name.

I think it's a etiquette thing like the PP who can't think how to address an envelope... I think people have no idea how to address an envelope to two people!

WrongSideOfHistory · 16/12/2018 21:47

I have exactly this. We made it very clear when we got married that neither of us would change our names. I have my mane on Facebook etc, there's no excuse. Our children have double-barrelled names. Much of the time it's my parents and their generation but it's also sometimes my/DH's friends.

Why the fuck do they do this??

Lizadork · 16/12/2018 21:49

When married can you keep being a "Miss" rather than become a Mrs/Ms? If you didn't change your surname upon marriage, did you change your title?

Kismetjayn · 16/12/2018 21:50

Before going NC, my family did the opposite. DD has my surname, he has his, but we'd get cards to 'the Kismet family'. It was all a control thing there, so we could be an extension of my birth family. Nonsensical.

randomchap · 16/12/2018 21:52

FFS, your name, your choice. Ignore any communications not in your real name, return letters and cards saying not known at this address. Make it 100% clear that you will not be getting into petty power struggles regarding your choice. You're not harming anyone in keeping your name.

PanamaPattie · 16/12/2018 21:53

It drives me nuts that I still get Christmas cards from my family addressed to Mr & Mrs DHname. I'm not a chattel.

KarBB · 16/12/2018 21:55

Drives me bonkers too. I had some address stamps printed with how We should be addressed as a couple with different surnamed which I use on the reverse of envelopes when I send cards etc. People are starting to get the message but I suspect some never will. Luckily my parents have more or less got the hang of it though I do have to remind them from time to time. I don't understand why people don't get it - it's hardly rocket science!

DeeOK · 16/12/2018 21:55

I've been a Ms since I was a teenager. Very proud mum to a 15 y.o. Ms, who was really excited to get a bank account and passport using the title Ms. She's also sworn never to change her name

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DeeOK · 16/12/2018 21:56

Still can't reply! That was answering a PP, Lizadork

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patientzero · 16/12/2018 21:58

It’s our first Christmas married, I didn’t change my name and my nanna has just given us a lovely, correctly addressed, card. She’s in her eighties so bollocks to it being an age thing.

cunningartificer · 16/12/2018 22:02

I like getting Christmas cards. I don’t worry about people getting names wrong if they’re roughly in the ballpark because if they’re anything like me it’s a miracle they managed to get them posted at all.

People are sending you a greeting and while remembering the other lots of people they send things to forget how you like your surname. Mildly irritating, but I accept not a big deal.

Two of my sisters regularly get DH’s name slightly wrong because it’s an unusual spelling. I will not be going non contact about this because they are lovely in all other ways 😃

PeanuttyButter · 16/12/2018 22:02

I didn’t change my name when I got married. I get cards to Mr and Mrs husbands name all the time. Doesn’t bother me at all

DeeOK · 16/12/2018 22:04

It's not roughly in the ballpark though! It's a totally different name! And it's not an acquaintance - it's my sister. She's had 3 different surnames and I've never got one of them wrong

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LtJudyHopps · 16/12/2018 22:07

If it was a card addressed to the “Smith family” it wouldn’t really bother me. However she clearly does it all the time so I can see why it bothers you. YANBU to be annoyed but I don’t think after all this time she will change.

Lizadork · 16/12/2018 22:07

I know Ms is more neutral, not giving away marital status - but when raised as Miss, hard not to become attached.

DeeOK · 16/12/2018 22:09

I get called Miss and Mrs about an equal amount. This bothers me much less than the wrong surname. It's usually official documents, people I don't know, so I don't get offended

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Doubletrouble99 · 16/12/2018 22:18

I really can't see how addressing something to the 'smith family' is such a big problem. I write loads of cards and I have to say that's something I would do if I wasn't sure/for convenience as it's quicker at this time of year.

Maelstrop · 16/12/2018 22:20

Have you actually spoken to her about this, OP? I would be very clear and do a face to face or email, nice and clear so she can't claim she's forgotten or some other ridiculous bollocks.

Verbena87 · 16/12/2018 22:23

I now feel less silly for throwing away the envelope when I realised I’d given my married friends the same surname on their Xmas card and redoing with their actual names!

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