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Caught speeding again... 3rd time

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bellalou1234 · 12/12/2018 11:32

Hello,
I am stupid. I got caught speeding on motorway which went down to 30mph for works in September. I am allowed to do driver improvement course. I have been caught by a van one month LATER. Yesterday I was on motorway again and I'm sure for a second I was driving at 33mph. I'm so ill and worried. I've been driving 18 years and never been been caught speeding.
I need my car for work, does anyone know if I could admit the third driving offence and pleas guilty but ask for a warning not the points?

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MirandaGoshawk · 12/12/2018 14:50

Sorry that's all one paragraph!

lazyarse123 · 12/12/2018 14:56

What kind of warning did you want? Telling you not to do it again obviously wouldn't work. For those complaining of not enough signage, the rule is "no sign= 30mph. I have on occasion gone over the limit but very rarely and not enough to get done.

sunglasses123 · 12/12/2018 14:59

Lazy -you cannot really say you only do it rarely and not enough to get done. You are either over or under. If you rarely went over (i.e 3 times) in say 5 years you could potentially be caught 3 times!

EffOrf · 12/12/2018 15:01

DH and I both drive and both have no speeding tickets in 30-40 years of driving but the chance of him picking one up is much higher than myself as he drives miles on motorways, unfamiliar roads and in towns he doesn't know which often have bad signage whereas I drive about 2 miles to work or the local shops, same roads all the time usually in traffic so I find it very difficult to actually drive at the speed limit. So obviously he is more likely to fall foul of the the law than me.

Ilikeknitting · 12/12/2018 15:02

Are you looking for sympathy?

Drive within the speed limit and you won’t need my faux sympathy.

Would a day out with a local bobby where you have to inform a mum that her 20 year old son who was working on the motorway roadworks has been hit and killed by a speeding driver help? Maybe telling a wife that her husband and the father of their three children has been rushed to hospital with a snapped neck and a lifetime in a wheelchair with incontinence bags for life is your idea of a great day out.

Stop feeling sorry for yourself and learn a bloody lesson! Slow down you ignorant fool.

BoswellandForshort · 12/12/2018 15:08

When I was caught speeding 3 years ago (34mph), the bottom of the letter from the police had a list of their leeway markers. I was offered the driving awareness course and I think the purpose of the list was to show the range of speeds that are acceptable for the course- too high and you’d get the points instead. Seemed a silly idea to me though because it just highlighted how far over the limit drivers could go without having action taken against them. 34mph was the starting point for 30 zones. I can’t remember what the other zones were but they were similar proportionally.

I had no idea different police forces have different policies. Surely it would make more sense to have consistency.

Either way, the course definitely changed my driving. Like a PP, I’d become complacent but now I’m much more aware of my speed. They’re a great initiative.

EffOrf · 12/12/2018 15:08

Some people are driving round with 50-60 points on their licence but it is a different rule for them, why is this.

EffOrf · 12/12/2018 15:12

Ah, so if 34 is the lower limit for a speeding awareness course what happens if you are caught doing 31-33 do you then get points as that is surely not fair and maybe you should have gone a bit faster.

BlackeyedGruesome · 12/12/2018 15:12

I hate speeding and am really careful. A child at a school I taught at was killed in a rta. however, both the 33mph and the traffic speeding past on the motorway and accelerating not to be ploughed into, are more understandable than many of the speeding offences that one sees out and about.

JoylessFucker · 12/12/2018 15:17

My understanding is that if you're caught within 3 years of doing a course, the points you didn't get that time are added to the points you'll get for the second offence (and in this case, the third offence). So, a total of 9 points for the OP.

Oh & you only get offered the awareness course if you were doing 2-3 mph over the limit. Anything more substantial and it's straight to a fine, points etc.

EffOrf · 12/12/2018 15:24

Oh & you only get offered the awareness course if you were doing 2-3 mph over the limit. Anything more substantial and it's straight to a fine, points etc.

I believe the upper limit for 30mph is 42mph and PP poster has said 34mph is lower limit so hardly 2-3mph over speed limit

PoisonousSmurf · 12/12/2018 15:27

You need to pay attention to what you are doing. But it seems weird that you didn't learn from your first experience.

EffOrf · 12/12/2018 15:27

and I think OP has only one actual offence though it is a bit difficult to tell from the few postings

Nicknacky · 12/12/2018 15:30

Joyless That is not the case.

Nicknacky · 12/12/2018 15:30

Oh and you can get the course if you are more than a couple of mph over

Craft1905 · 12/12/2018 15:37

My understanding is that if you're caught within 3 years of doing a course, the points you didn't get that time are added to the points you'll get for the second offence (and in this case, the third offence). So, a total of 9 points for the OP.

Your understanding is completely wrong.

Oh & you only get offered the awareness course if you were doing 2-3 mph over the limit. Anything more substantial and it's straight to a fine, points etc.

Rubbish. The answer is on google. You are eligible for an awareness course (although they don't have to offer you one) for any speed not exceeding 10%+9. So anything up to 42 in a 30 limit, or up to 86 in a 70 limit.

So 2 bits of info you've posted, both utter nonsense.

LittlePaintBox · 12/12/2018 15:48

I went on the speed awareness course to avoid getting up to 9 points.

It demonstrated to me that, contrary to what I believed about myself, my reactions were slightly slower than average and I did not pay sufficient attention to the road, so I often wasn't aware of the speed limit. It also made me realise that I could kill somebody if I didn't get a grip.

Changes I've made since then include getting a satnav which goes 'bing bing bing' if I exceed the limit, and tells me what the limit is, and setting out 10 minutes earlier that I think I need to, rather than going at the last minute and then try to make up the time.

I'd wholeheartedly recommend the speed awareness course to you if you have problems keeping your speed down.

BoswellandForshort · 12/12/2018 15:53

Ah, so if 34 is the lower limit for a speeding awareness course what happens if you are caught doing 31-33 do you then get points as that is surely not fair and maybe you should have gone a bit faster

I assume they wouldn’t take action. At least not for my local force. It seems others may be different.

EffOrf · 12/12/2018 15:57

I was only joking about going a bit faster but it all seems a bit woolley and dependant on the local area, where I live the speed cameras were all switched off as they couldn’t afford them, so there is just the odd mobile van now.

CammieKennaway · 12/12/2018 16:00

No sympathy from me either!
I've been driving since the early 90s and have never been caught speeding because I don't drive like a tit, thinking it's fine to endanger other people's lives just to save myself some time - if you think you need to speed, then maybe leave earlier to give yourself more time to get to your destination.
I remember watching a programme that showed accidents where roadside workers were killed by unobservant, speeding drivers and the aftermath of where that left their families.
It's ironic that I saw this today as I was almost T-Boned on my way home by a stupid speeding driver who wasn't concentrating.

WhoTookTheChristmasCookie · 12/12/2018 16:03

@Craft1905 what happens if she continues to speed?
Being pedantic doesn't change the fact that if OP continues breaking the speed limit, she'll lose her licence.

She has been careless enough to get caught three times (god knows how many 'slight' misdemeanours she's gotten away with) in such a small window.
That's what I'm getting at.

Speeding kills.

Motoko · 12/12/2018 16:05

My husband had to do a speed awareness course, after he was caught doing 73 on the motorway. The annoying thing was, he'd been doing 70, but had to overtake a lorry that was overtaking another lorry, so sped up a little bit to get past, and then went back to 70. But it was at that moment overtaking, that the camera van on the bridge over the motorway, caught him.

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Craft1905 · 12/12/2018 16:25

She has been careless enough to get caught three times

Nope, she's been caught twice and convicted once. She's worried that she may have been caught again, but she may not have.

Let's stick to the facts as presented, not make stuff up.

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bellalou1234 · 12/12/2018 16:25

I cant believe the amount of people who say they have never had an oversight of going 3mph over the limit! Really! As I said in my post I feel stupid, it really has been an oversight 2 occasions on a road that is notorious for this, finining people and generating huge income to failing councils what have u. Thanks to people who have gave good advice

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