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I think the teacher is wanting to see me about what I said on Facebook...

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TruckLoadOfSubtleGlitter · 12/12/2018 09:56

Do I have a leg to stand on?

One of the TA's has been disregarding my 7yo DC's hard work and he missed out on 'extra play' despite doing the work asked of him (I can go into more detail if needed).

This is reading that is done at home and written in a book for school.

The TA was counting the reads, in fact totally ignoring most of them.

I bought it up with her, she tried to explain which made absolutely no sense whatsoever.
I played it over in my mind for 2 days and did not understand why they weren't counting all of my sons reads and why he was missing out. Reading doesn't come easy to him, he would rather not do it, it's a battle every day. Yet we do it, we record it, but it's not being ticked off by the TA (some is, some is ignored).

Still not understanding why 50% of it is ignored, I went on to the Facebook class page. It's a closed group of 20-30 parents. A closed and private group.

I posted a picture of his book and asked them to help me make sense of it. I don't understand??
Some other parents couldn't understand either.
I said I was really disappointed in the person who marked it. That I would mark it for them and add up his reads and do their job so they could see in black and white what work he had done. I haven't mentioned any names. It's happened to other kids too and they are missing out on 'extra play' as well despite doing the hard work.

DS has been in tears about this several times.

It wasn't an issue for the first 3 years at school and it wasn't a an issue for the 7 years my other DS was at this school. It's an issue now.

Now they have called me in for a meeting at 3pm - I cant make it today but I'm almost certain this is what it's about.
I think someone has reported me being annoyed with them and posting asking for advice about it on Facebook.

But surely I can ask for advice and express my disappointment (the only negative word I used, I was very careful!) no names mentioned?
I need to know if I've done something wrong here.

I'm still seriously fucked off them them so I held back what I really thought and just saved that information for my husband.

AIBU?

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Karmagoat · 12/12/2018 10:35

Unfortunately teachers these days do not like to put in the extra effort with students who might need the little extra help

unfortunately it's attitudes like this that make teachers and support staffs jobs even harder than they already are. I work as a TA in a school and the demands upon us and teachers are sometimes impossible.

FuckingYuleLog · 12/12/2018 10:35

How can you write in on a Saturday what hasn’t yet been read?
You’re not making a lot of sense op and if you were as clear as you have been here when speaking to the school I doubt they had any idea what you were on about.

Knittink · 12/12/2018 10:35

You go and speak to somebody if you are not happy, you don't make bitchy remarks about having to do somebody's job on facebook.

^This. Facebook is not the right medium for making a complaint ir raising a query with the school.

TantrumsAndBalloons · 12/12/2018 10:36

So let me just get this straight
You know your ds has been upset by this multiple times
You know the solution to this is to fill the book in on a different day
But you choose to not do this

That’s seems utterly ridiculous

Shoxfordian · 12/12/2018 10:36

I don't think it was appropriate to start complaining on Facebook, even if you didn't name anyone, its still going to be pretty obvious who you're talking about.

You should have raised it with the teacher if the ta wasn't clear.

TruckLoadOfSubtleGlitter · 12/12/2018 10:37

Ok this was how it was written out.

When she sat down and marked them on the 16th, she could see he had read all those times but only ticked two.
When she sat down on the 23rd, she could see that he had read allllll those previous times but only ticked two.

I'm NOT asking her to count them up on a different day.
I'm NOT asking her to take more time marking his work.
I'm asking her to count what she can see in front of her. And I don't understand why she is refusing to do so.

I think the teacher is wanting to see me about what I said on Facebook...
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JurassicGirl · 12/12/2018 10:37

At dc primary school the kids have to read every school day for 15-30 mins depending on the year group.

It has to be recorded each night along with a signature. If the reading record doesn't come home we are to write it on a piece of paper & that is then attached to the reading record later.

Officially if we don't sign to say they've read then they don't earn 5 mins of 'golden time' in reality if you usually complete it but just forget they will query it first.

Only takes seconds to write the date, page number & sign the reading record in the evening.

dippledorus · 12/12/2018 10:38

You know they check it on a Friday and deliberately not filling it in until the weekend

Do it on a Thursday or do it each night.

And don’t moan on Facebook.

NameChangerAmI · 12/12/2018 10:38

The teacher might be wanting to apologise - you might have done the teacher, not to mention all the other parents and the children a favour by bringing this to light.

I'd be careful what I posted in that group, though, there's clearly a mole in there somewhere, although this time, it's probably a good thing that there is!

You've done nothing wrong. It seems that it's the TA who's at fault, not you.

dippledorus · 12/12/2018 10:39

*are

You are making a point and digging your heels in and your son is suffering. Just fill the thing in every night.

If you don’t have time to do that, how good quality is your supervision of his reading?

catchingzzzeds · 12/12/2018 10:40

So some parent has gone running to the school?! They should be embarrassed not you.
It’s a private group and you were seeking advice. Stick to your initial question and repeat that it was a private group conversation and the fact that you had approached the school first and it continues to be an ongoing issue.

I’m a TA in a primary school and raised this issue of rewarding children for work done at home, it’s really unfair on those children whose parents don’t/can’t support them(which I understand is not the case here).

Ihatemyseleffordoingthis · 12/12/2018 10:40

They are "ignoring it" because half of it relates to the week before.

They check it on Thursday, for a reward of extra play (on Friday?)
So no reading recorded for Sunday - Wednesday of that week. So maybe 3 reads are recorded Th/Fr/Sat. So that's not the required number, so he doesn't get the reward.

Just tot it up and fill it in on Wednesday.

TBH I find all reading diary shenanigans VERY irritating and ahem have been known to falsify them. We read every night, always have with all 3 kids. The record keeping is primarily for brownie points for school's Ofsted reporting.

FuckingYuleLog · 12/12/2018 10:41

Because she’s only counting the previous weeks reading! The others would have counted the time before if you’d have filled them in. Just fill them in on the right day!

TruckLoadOfSubtleGlitter · 12/12/2018 10:41

You know your ds has been upset by this multiple times

It's only just been established that this is the cause.
I'm very much addressing it now.

Im making the work for her.

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TruckLoadOfSubtleGlitter · 12/12/2018 10:43

*marking the work for her now.

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Valasca · 12/12/2018 10:43

I’d email them back and ask what the meeting is regarding specifically and why it requires to be resolved in person as opposed to email. I’d want a written trail. I also find it ridiculous that schools call parents into meetings without telling them what it’s about. Adults prepare for meetings and I agree they’re treating you like a pupil, hauling you in without specifying why.

MilkRunningOutAgain · 12/12/2018 10:43

Do bear in mind that the meeting might be about something completely different. I had a long running issue with my DS jumping around the classroom, was called in for a meeting, was all prepared to discuss this and had been worrying about it, & the meeting was about them getting some extra help for DS’s speech!

sweeneytoddsrazor · 12/12/2018 10:43

She can only mark for the week she is doing. If she is marking Thursday presumably she looks at what you have written from the previous Thursday til the Weds evening. In your case that will be 3 days thurs, fri, sat. Leaving 4 days with nothing. You know she counts it on a Thursday so fill it out on a Weds.

dinosaurglitterrepublic · 12/12/2018 10:44

Example- she marks on the 16th for the past week. You only have filled out 10th and 11th as you complete at the weekend. The remainder of that week must have been blank by Friday 16th if you refuse to complete on the Thursday. It wouldn’t have been completed until the weekend that followed. The next week she just goes back a week again and thus it continues.

I haven’t studied the page in that much detail, but that seems pretty clear to me. So how are you not asking for them to mark it at a different time?

dippledorus · 12/12/2018 10:44

You can’t mark the work. You are not employed by the school to do so. How arrogant are you?!

FuckingYuleLog · 12/12/2018 10:44

And if other children are managing to remember to take their reading record home and their parents are managing to fill it in on the right day so they can get the reward you and your child should be capable of doing that as well.

Escolar · 12/12/2018 10:44

Honestly OP. Wouldn't it just be easier to record the reading every night rather than going through all this?

TruckLoadOfSubtleGlitter · 12/12/2018 10:45

So most of you agree that she can see that he has done the work, and she's ok to not tick it?

She knows with her eyes that she has done the work and it's been recorded. It's in front of her but it's ok for her not to tick it?

I've been a TA and I would never be that cruel. Knowing a child had done the work and it in front of me as proof but deliberately not acknowledge it? I could never have done that.

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TeaStory · 12/12/2018 10:45

I’ve looked at your photo and the marking process is perfectly clear. Each week she ticks off the reading done in the previous calendar week, and only counts that. Makes perfect sense.

If you didn’t fill in his reading record until the end of the academic year, would you expect him to get rewarded for reading each week? No! Just be a parent and fill in his reading record each week on Thursday! It’s an easy fix for the problem which you have caused for your son, but you’re blaming it on everyone else.

SassitudeandSparkle · 12/12/2018 10:45

You do know what the problem is - you don't fill the log in on the day that it is checked! Very passive aggressive to post it on FB when you know all along that it's you and say you'll do the job for them!

You are asking her to do something different for your child. They count up the class reading on Thursday ready for the extra time on Friday? If you don't write it in until Saturday how are they supposed to know?

I bet you'd be really hacked off if the school posted a photo of his book too.

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