AIBU to feel a bit shit for TM?

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Imagine achieving your life dream of becoming PM, being left to organise a shitstorm and then a load of your staff telling you you’re shit at organising shit and you get voted out.
I don’t think anyone who was brought in to lead brexit following Cameron’s hash up would have done a decent job and yet all TM will be known for is failing to manage brexit!

A Labour government would be able to make better assurances, and use this to trade off other negotiations.

They couldn't negotiate their way out of a wet paper bag!!!

She's a grubby little racist with a God-complex.
She's not racist at all and she's determined to see this through because she has a sense of duty, something that none of her (self-absorbed, self-centred, look at me it's all about me) colleagues have. She could have done things a whole lot different if she'd put herself first like all the backstabbers are doing. And if Parliament as a whole had got behind her from the start we could have had a decent Brexit deal. It was Corbyn, Johnson, Rees-Mogg et al that shafted us by weakening her position.

I think 'sense of duty' is just another form of egotism tbh.

Is it 'her duty' to make a hash of this?

Corbyn's a naysayer. Always has been, always will be. He's made a career out of shouting 'NOT GOOD ENOUGH!' while coming up with zero answers/suggestions/alternatives. An original thought would land the insufferable twat in hospital with an aneurism.

Not a big TM fan either, though I do give her props for sticking with the shit show.

I think the best we can hope for is a new centralist party who have both compassion and a firm grasp of economics

All the lols that the tories have a firm grasp of economics
Everything Aker says.
I feel not one ounce of pity for TM - the tories have brought all of this on themselves, putting themselves and their party first and the benefit and wellbeing of the people of this country secondary.
I don't know how any tory voter is able to hold their head up at the moment.
And I don't understand why the vote is a secret one? These disgusting fuckers should have the courage of their conviction and stand up to be counted.

It was Corbyn, Johnson, Rees-Mogg et al that shafted us by weakening her position.

She doesn't have the authority to shut them down. That's very much her problem.

why people voted to leave, and addressed those issues instead

Its not a genius to work out and you cant fix it without leaving the EU. The EU has systematically damaged British industry to promote "European" interest

She had it right when she said 'people call us the Nasty Party'. They do and it is.

and no trains then

Just like my week days then?

the EU has systematically damaged British industry to promote "European" interest

If you have the slightest shred of evidence to support that, we'd all love to hear it.

@Rangerider, She's not racist at all

Haha! Oh, really?

• 'Illegal immigrants go home' vans?
• Hostile environment?
• Windrush scandal?
• 'Citizens of nowhere'?
• `Queue jumpers'?

If it quacks like a duck....

Which was probably the wrong thing to do. The country is diametrically opposed. You can please one side or the other. A compromise merely upset both sides

Easy to say.... So do you think she should have gone for no deal or remain? Whichever way she went she'd have the same outrage and insults thrown. She is in a no win situation.

Maybe she should have just done what Bojo, JRM or Jeremy Hunt will do and gone for no deal.

Would that have pleased you? Either way she would still have been in the same position, with half of the population baying for her blood.

I don't feel sorry for her, no. It's politics. She knew the situation when she took the job.

Easy to say.... So do you think she should have gone for no deal or remain?

Without trying to be too annoying - yes. She should have gone for one of these [well, not a no deal, but a more definitive withdrawal or remain]. What we got was an attempt to negotiate a 'leave' that wasn't really a leave in the hopes that each opposing side would be fooled into thinking she'd done what they wanted.

This whole thing is a big, fat, f*cking mess.

Those who voted leave had a million and one ideas about what that actually looked like - ranging from Norway style ‘worst of both worlds’ to hard Brexit. Trying to navigate a deal that would be palatable to even a large minority of UK voters as well as the EU was always going to be an impossibility. When this was pointed out to the enthusiastic leavers back in 2016, it was just brushed off as another part of Project Fear.

Anyone who thinks Labour would be any less divided than the Conservatives is utterly deluded. They have at least as many hardline Remainers as the tories have hardline Brexiteers. The chances are that Labour have no better a chance of gaining a majority in the event of a GE than the tories and would then have to deal with their own infighting. A minority Labour government propped up by the SNP would be totally unworkable too any type of Brexit.

At the moment the best we can hope for is the current deal on the table with some minor tweaking with the wording of the smallprint which would be sold as some great victory.

Oh how I wish Miliband had won in 2015. I never thought I’d hear myself say those words.

It was the wrong Milliband
They messed up with that too

Fed up with people making this a feminist issue.

If women want to take the highest office in the land, they must be treated equally with men. If they make a mess of it, they shouldn't get special sympathy just because they are a woman. Would those of you feeling sorry for her also feel sorry for a man in her position?

She's wanted this job since she was a teenager. There's no way she would have got it in normal circumstances. The only reason Boris backed down was because Gove knifed him in the back by standing himself and splitting the vote which meant he didn't have the numbers to win. In normal circumstances, she wouldn't have been in the running because she's 2nd rate PM material.

She didn't take it on reluctantly out of a sense of duty. That's just spin. She was gagging for it.

Just go back and look at her record as Home Secretary if you're in any doubt about about her character and opinions.

It was the wrong Milliband

^^This, this whole fucking mess. The entire fucking shit show in some other universe with the other Miliband never even happened.

Lol exactly
It all goes back to there

I blame Boris Johnson. The man is a complete moron, don't know why anyone thinks he is intelligent. He helped lead the brexit leave shit show, lied to you all about this £300million extra for the NHS and when he got the result he wanted, he ran away and is now basically a back bencher. And yet we are likely to end up with the blonde turd as PM. And TM will be blamed for all of this when she never wanted it. She just had to deal with it while everyone else hindered it, whined, moaned, yet never suggested anything bloody useful. Easy to whine, not so easy to do the job.

If we get the blonde turd next, we're screwed.

And yet we are likely to end up with the blonde turd as PM.
If TM is voted out, I'm sure BJ will find another reason not to stand, until all the Brexit fiasco is over.

Yeah but look at the other 'candidates'. Hardly any better are they?

Can we vote in a dog? I'd prefer a dog to be honest. It's better to look at and probably makes better decisions.

If TM is voted out, I'm sure BJ will find another reason not to stand, until all the Brexit fiasco is over.
Will be surprised if BJ ever goes for top spot. He's more of an agitator than a reigns holder

Yeah but look at the other 'candidates'. Hardly any better are they?

I could handle Rudd or believe it or not, Jeremy Hunt.

Fairly confident that neither BoJo nor JRM would stand. Gove might though

The wrong Milliband. I frequently say that to whoever will listen!